posted September 12, 2010 07:16 PM         

I have Lilith and Chiron conjunct in the 12th in Gemini. I noticed literally zero energy from these placements. I have never attracted a man who made close aspects to either of these.

I am referring to the Lilith on the astro.com list. In one of the Lilith threads I remember people saying they notice *this* Lilith when it comes to their sexuality - and also - that they had very close aspects with sexual partners.

The only Lilith that seems to work for me is the Oscillating one - n13?? or n63?? I can't remember the number. This is at 6 Taurus in exact opposition with my Pluto at 6 Scorpio.

But the 12th house Lilith is a blank. The 12th house Chiron is a huge blank also. I read a 12th Chiron interpretation - and frankly it sounds like a pale copy of my Jupiter in Pisces conj MC interpretation. "You care about the world" - Yes I KNOW - It's because I have Jupiter in Pisces LOL. I don't see it with Chiron.

Also - Lilith is meant to represent the dark side of female sexuality. Well whatever sexuality I have, both "light" and "dark" - it is much more earthy and Taurean, not at all like Gemini - because I don't intellectualize sex or talk about it. I'm just very physical.

Chiron is meant to represent a wound and a place where you can heal others. Well... I associate the sign of Gemini with all things happy. If you were to ask me which of my friends seems like the most well-collected, problem free, happy chappy person - I'd say my triple Gem friend (Sun/Moon/Mars in Gem).

I guess I don't even know what in the world I would have to "heal" - because Gemini influence is usually so unproblematic. It's one of the easiest, most adaptable - easy going - lighthearted energies from my perspective.

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I realized that maybe I LOSE these aspects completely in the waters of the12th house. For years I did not pay attention to neither this Lilith, nor Chiron. Because as soon as I noticed them, I forgot they were there - because the interpretations were so meaningless to me.

posted September 12, 2010 08:32 PM         

My Uranus (in the 12th) is kinda similar. I see myself as normal and not standing out, but everyone says the complete opposite of me. In fact, the more I try to conform...the more 'strange' and 'out there' I am to people. Strange....

Amor Conjuncts my Ascendant from the 12th and I feel the consequences of it ALOT, Im just not sure how.

My Neptune's probably the only one that doesn't fit this, probably because its at home in the 12th house.

And I feel the aspects these planets make to my other planets (like the afflictions to my Mars and Chiron), but sometimes it feels more like SERIOUS cosmic forces at work against my Mars instead of just regular ol' Saturn and Uranus squaring my Mars and Chiron.