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crabbypatty
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posted September 23, 2010 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

OK, that's my natal. I'd love to know what it says about my need for a long term relationship, or my ability to be in one, or anything else that pops out to you about attitude towards romantic involvements.

Thanks, Lonake!

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posted September 24, 2010 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 24, 2010 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi CP,
Maybe you're wondering cos you have Aquarius rising? I find them to really want to attach, due to the Leo Dsc, if we're just taking the asc into account. All right, so your asc ruler is in libra in the 8th, which is a Uranus/Venus/Pluto dynamic. Venus in libra in the 8th which adds to that, etc. This shows a breezy manner that underneath wants to get very deep with someone, on an intense psychic level, but in possibly a non-traditional partnership, Sun is in Scorpio, Moon in Cancer (it looks like its in Cancer, not Leo).

One of the things I think you're referring to is your DSC ruler, the Sun being in Scorpio opposed to Saturn. *this* could reflect an issue regarding controlling partnerships that you unconsciously set up as a means to distance yourself. You have a Grand cross (loosely), but there are 2 elements mixed in. You tend to be quite hard on yourself and thus invite that energy from others. You can get easily frustrated due to *hiding* a lot of what you are experiencing. In a way this is natural for you, but again it shuts you off from others. There may have been a feeling of insecurity in youth that coupled with a thwarted will, carries over into your adulthood. You're likely still carrying these emotional patterns. You need to learn proper assertiveness training to be able to start getting your needs met. Not aggressive, just assertive. You may find it difficult to change your emotional habits and find that others cannot understand what you say, it creates tension that you can't easily express. You may sometimes burst with the pressure inside. You definitely need to learn how to nurture yourself and take time when communicating with others to make sure they are understanding you, also even tho you are over-sensitive in communication, try not to lash out, and use your Mars Capricorn energy to pace yourself. You would do well actually to express more Aquarian traits, to bring your asc more out in the open, the lovely thing about Aquarius is that people give them room to *be* no matter how strange or odd because they do not ask for permission they simply *act* as if they already have it. You definitely need to tune into this energy much more, as a way of bringing yourself more out in the open, when needed.

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In relationship you might want to see how you work with those who bring planets to you in synastry from very late pisces, they would have some emotional understanding, and also allow your moon some breathing room away from the tension it faces.
You do have some fabulous trines, so I would work with that energy, esp mars trine pluto, to gain strength to be 'yourself' and ask for what you want. Don't be afraid to speak out, because not everyone can intuit what you need, they're not as good as you are with that

The Libra & Scorpio mix you have is another factor showing to not be afraid to rock the balance if it means showing yourself and who you really are, and the intense relating that you need. Sometimes scorpio thinks it always has to be do or die, black or white, but when you have other forces at work in your personality you can't live life without taking them into account. So don't overdo Libra (acquiescing to others, passive, not assertive) or Scorpio (hiding away expecting others to read your mind) and I believe you will be fine. Saturn in Taurus in h2 is another marker for this as it points to possible low self worth, that needs to be worked on...Nice thing is that it's been trine to t. Pluto so you had/have that working for you, so maybe you have gained strength in that area recently. Saturn is now going over your Libra mish mash, and telling you to start learning to keep both the needs of you and the needs of the partner as equally important. I believe you tend to shift in favor of the partner, and this is not what Libra is about, so Saturn will tell you that each individual is important and that one is not higher or more valid than the other. Saturn is also your h12 ruler, so when it transits your stellium youll also be faced with unconscious tendencies that are not working well for you. So it's basically a time of coming full circle, ready to take a hard look at how you relate, and then move on. It will square Mars possibly bringing a time of frustration as it begins to oppose it's natal position, conj the Sun. This will be the big test regarding are you living for you, for your highest good, at your highest purpose, if you're not it's likely to be a time of depression, so don't let yourself get stuck and use the Scorpio's will power to see you through. Then it will move into the 9th, so youll be applying what you learned in the 8th, toward a new working philosophical outlook.

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crabbypatty
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posted September 25, 2010 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, I was so wowed when I read your analysis above, you have no idea. Just about every SINGLE thing you said rings true for me. And the joke is, although I recognized it as true when I read your words, I didn't have the same insight before... so you've opened up a new way of thinking about myself for me! Thank you, thank you!!!

I am totally other-oriented and I end up resenting it eventually b/c my own needs are not met, b/c I'm not asking loud enough for them to be met. How simple!!

You are an astrological genius. How does it feel?

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posted September 25, 2010 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That WAS amazing

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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posted September 25, 2010 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CP, I'm just surprised by all of our conjunctions (!)
-your sun conj my jupiter
-your moon conj my asc (out of sign)
-your mercury conj my pluto
-your venus/jupiter conj my mars/saturn
-your mars conj my moon/venus
-your jupiter conj my pluto
-your mc/ic axis conj my vertex/anti-vertex axis
.....that's 12 conjunctions (!)
omg, and all your axis pts (asc/mc/dsc/ic) are conj my daughters, exact!! lol, this is too funny!

Ami, do not feed the Leo rising lol, it's not a pretty beast

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posted September 26, 2010 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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posted September 26, 2010 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake
I know you are protesting, Leo ASC and all ,but I could not help myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZtbASCE7ZY

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posted September 26, 2010 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami
"i can feel the juices rushing back to my balls as we speak"

lol, i love him!

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crabbypatty
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posted September 26, 2010 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, I must have instinctively known who to ask for analysis, what with all those conjunctions of ours!

And I don't even know your placements - tried googling you to find past posts that might give me a clue, but struck out.

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posted September 26, 2010 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, I must have instinctively known who to ask for analysis, what with all those conjunctions of ours!

And I don't even know your placements - tried googling you to find past posts that might give me a clue, but struck out.

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posted September 26, 2010 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CP,

Asc 2 Leo
Mars 19 Libra, H3
Saturn 21 Libra, H3
Pluto 26 Libra, H4
Jupiter 10 Scorpio, H4
Uranus 4 Sagittarius, H5
Neptune 26 Sagittarius, H5
Venus 25 Capricorn, H6
Moon 27 Capricorn, H6
Mercury 5 Aquarius, H7
Sun 1 Pisces, H8
Mc 25 Aries
NN 21 Cancer, H12

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posted December 14, 2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bumping for Lonake to e-mail me.... so I have your email addie!

jbrenner56@yahoo.com

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Lonake
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posted December 14, 2011 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK I emailed !

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