posted September 28, 2010 03:43 AM         

Out of curiosity, I used astro.com to see what my more 'complete' horoscope was. It produced the following main results:

Sun sign: Leo
Ascendant: Leo
Moon sign: Capricorn

posted September 28, 2010 04:47 AM         

Is your sun in the 1st or 12th?

what are the degrees of your sun, moon, asc?

in fact, i remember a man i knew with the Sun in Leo and Moon in Capricorn, he was quite the ambitious, industrious sort.
leo and capricorn both have to do with authority and keeping up appearances. they're concerned with 'rank' as well, and the social score.

posted September 28, 2010 06:00 PM         

But I noticed that Saturn is conjunct your Leo Asc. That is going to tame the more showy and excessive side of Leo, you probably seem more conservative and stable than most Leo Suns. Did you seem older when you were younger? Or did you not feel like you could relate to people in your age group when you were younger or even now? The fact that you also have Capricorn Moon would emphasize the Saturnian qualities even more.

posted September 30, 2010 07:36 AM         

She works as a secretary in a law firm: an efficient and warm hearted lady - bossy, YES, but great at her work and a loving loyal friend.

posted September 30, 2010 08:20 AM         

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basically it means that you 'shine' and have a certain amount of pride and dignity about you, but on an emotional level are somewhat of a child in need of support for your melancholic moods, but it's doubtful you'd be eager to show vulnerability in that area, probably only if the person was someone you respected/admired

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Wow, Lonake
I love the dignity of the Leo. They feel "royal" lol
They carry themselves in a way that I love,a natural dignity.

I love the childlike expression of themselves, the childlike openness and wonder
It feels genuine.

I did not know about the moods part but that fits, too

posted September 30, 2010 11:18 AM         

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"But I noticed that Saturn is conjunct your Leo Asc. That is going to tame the more showy and excessive side of Leo, you probably seem more conservative and stable than most Leo Suns. Did you seem older when you were younger? Or did you not feel like you could relate to people in your age group when you were younger or even now? The fact that you also have Capricorn Moon would emphasize the Saturnian qualities even more."

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posted September 30, 2010 11:36 AM         

I find him hanging from hangers in stores, I found him hanging from the roof of the house.. He NEVER stops talking, and he talks loud.. I always have to remind him "inside voice"

He has a Taurus Stellium in his 10th.. PACKED 10th house.He's such a go getter..
He's so adorable, people just love him right off the bat.. He talks and socializes with everyone.. OO the questions he asks people :O

posted September 30, 2010 01:29 PM         

"Only after turning 18 and going to college did I manage to develop those people skills and become more comfortable with a more "flamboyant" side. "
This is after your p.Sun moved out of the 12th house (hidden) but still within orb of conj your n.Asc, this would definitely bring you much more out in the open and feel more free to express yourself..and prob much more sure of what you wanted, finally feeling that the way you act to the outside world is completely in line with your solar essence, so it was a very strong expression.

posted September 30, 2010 01:33 PM         

the thing is, i dont have saturn conjunct asc, i have my moon trine it and pluto square it, maybe the outer planets have a similar less flamboyant effect on the leo asc..

or maybe its just because i have strong saturn in my chart even though its not on my asc.

its possible my saturn Quincunx's my asc but i dont know my exact leo asc degree, i just know its naywhere between 8-12 degrees. likely around 10. my saturn is 7 capricorn..

strong saturn in leo-individuals = less flamboyance etc?

i'd say its the asc aswell though.. they say the asc is our vehical in life, how we get to our destinations.

e.g. imagine a school teacher with glasses driving a harley davidson , thats a Gemini Sun with a Sag/Aries ASC.

anyway, point is, planets i think aspecting especially conjunct the asc, are part of our make up and choice of how we 'get through life'.

so you use saturn as your vehical, in my chart i guess i use moon and pluto, but both use Sun as it is our native asc ruling planet.

perhaps aspects to the asc ruler also count, in my case i have uranus trine my Sun, perhaps subtly uranus comes into my choice of vehicals

what aspects does your Sun make?

your less flamboyance is likely in part becuase you react with, and use saturn as a vehical, or part of your vehical to get through life, to travel to, do things. (in otherwords, you understand how saturn, ruling capricorn, as a sign and planet, is very much almost the opposite of leo/sun energy., regarding extrovertness, flamboyance and even confidence.)

posted September 30, 2010 03:39 PM         

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As a child and teenager, I did tend to live in my own little dreamworld; never being bullied or bothered, always invited to the parties, but still "detached" from the rest, in some strange way. Only after turning 18 and going to college did I manage to develop those people skills and become more comfortable with a more "flamboyant" side.

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Aha! I knew it! I have Saturn in my first house, and I had the same experience when I was younger. I always had this snobbish attitude with my peers, like I was so much more mature and different, so I also detached myself from my peers and kept to myself.

Sometimes it takes a while to hone in the more flamboyant side of Leo too.

posted October 01, 2010 12:01 AM         

You're kind of like a triple Leo. Your Moon, though in Capricorn, is in the 5th house, which is traditionally ruled by Leo. Your Moon ruler, Saturn, is also placed in Leo... So yeah, you're like a Super Leo or something!

posted October 10, 2010 06:36 AM         

For instance, I always thought a conjunct sign worked "against" you in some way... it's pretty interesting to compare it as your "vehicle", or methods, etc...

The fact that signs are "hidden" in 12 was news as well... but like the interpretations of the conjunct sign, it's quite spot-on, both the positive and negative influences...

Now I know personality is formed by a huge amount of factors (genes, family, youth, education, environment, ...), but it's rather eerie to see how much you can read from a person's sign... especially when adding those extra factors that most folks don't know about.