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FrozenQueen
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From: The boundary where 'reality' ends and Dreams begin
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posted September 28, 2010 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, Ami, I was looking for one of my posts on Google when this popped up and I went in to check 'cause I remember not posting to that thread. It's about Knowflakes and the energies they project.

You wrote that you found me to be Plutonian with a very social sense and probably a bit like Gemini even though you feel I didn't have anything in Gemini.

What can I say?
I'm not exactly shy about being a Child of Pluto, but the social sense and Gemini, I have Jupiter in Gemini with Gem's ruler Mercury in the 3rd in Scorpio...gives me a darkly humorous stripe plus my Draconic shifts my Scorpio stellium to Sag which makes me even more goofier.

For someone who says they are still understanding their Pluto, you do pretty well at knowing people and seeing them for who they are. That's Pluto right there.

Not to undermine your struggles, but you're definitely getting Pluto, girlfriend!

Keep up the good work, Pluto likes to play hard to get, but I don't think it can keep dodging you forever. Pluto does love a strong will and you have it with you, put-downs notwithstanding.

Birds sing after a storm, why shouldn't we?

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Ami Anne
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posted September 28, 2010 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I love you, Frozen Queen.
Thank you for saying what you did.

I am gonna force myself to write about some things I am afraid of and ashamed of(Pluto)

Thank you for giving me the boost to go forward!


You do have a mixture of lots of different energies, Frozen Queen, which seem like they don't go together such as Gemini and Scorpio.

I guess the key is owning all the energies and knowing how and when to use them.

That is an important part I am grappling with. Some energies like Pluto are not "bad" but there is a time and a place to express it .
Pluto is not welcome in polite conversation lol

However, that does not make Pluto unacceptable.

He just needs to be put in the lingerie drawer


I am gonna write what I need to on your thread if it is OK.

I needed a little courage and you gave it to me. Thank you.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 28, 2010 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I want to make myself look good. I want to write a million words so I can hide under them lol and no one will see the real me like a naked crab body, slimy, skinny,teetering ,needing.

The other night, I FELT my Pluto .Diablo told me it was a Pluto experience.

She had one in high school and it forever changed her.

I had one in junior high but I buried my PLuto until now.

I did take it out when I needed to, at times.
Someone ,USUALLY, can only go so far in violating me but I thought this rule did not apply to family(husbands ,included)

I thought you could trust the people with whom you were close.

That was my fatal error. I had one person I could trust in my life---my grandmother.

She was the only one who did not hurt me for her OWN purposes.

What about other people---did you have anyone you could trust--totally?
I want to ask that question--but I wonder how to phrase it astrologically.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 28, 2010 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
This is my Pluto experience. It includes having my Pluto as a kid ,losing it and trying to regain it,now.

Pluto is keen, keen sight.I could look inside me and see my feelings and thoughts. I thought I was only human but I did have some bad feelings and thoughts.

I could see the same in others. I read all the time and figured that what I felt was just "human nature"

As I grew up, I had a group of girlfriends. I never violated my core cuz my core was me.

This is being at home with your Pluto---not violating yourself.

I did not NEED a relationship to make me whole. I was whole cuz I was attached to myself.

I was attached to my feelings and thoughts so I was not lonely or needing,too much.


My Pluto experience was when I hurt a friend for NO reason other to have power over her.

It was just a comment , not an incident , per se, but I made her cry.

I never forgot that. I was pure evil, at that moment.

I can still see the incident. I can see myself and I can see her--highlighted.

I saw that part of myself and I put it away,I think,after that.

However, the other night, I felt it ,again.

It scared me cuz I had that pure passion to hurt someone like a power driven animal.

I looked at myself like from above myself. I saw myself and did not really know what to do.
I KNEW that a lost part had clicked in.

I could not sleep well. I apologized to the person.

Then, I talked to Diablo(Sun trine Pluto)
That aspect is a natural psychologist. It is a sublime aspect for understanding human nature.

I have the sextile which is not as good but can still get there but the trine is superlative.

Diablo said that it was a Pluto experience in that you FELT your Pluto power.

You have to respect it cuz it IS power.It is like a tidal wave, nuclear power etc.

It can hurt and badly ,if it is not used wisely .


You know what I just realized. If you don't own and use your own Pluto power, you will attract others to use THEIRS on YOU..

That is what I did. That is how I called abuse on to me

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 28, 2010 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for inviting me to express myself (((Frozen Queen)))))

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FrozenQueen
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posted September 28, 2010 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Anytime, Ami.

What you wrote about Pluto, and your experience of Pluto's Power, it was one reason why you shut it down. We don't want to be monsters. We don't want to be seen as bad people, evil ones who go about hurting others. That is perfectly normal.

But Ami, the Darkness is there. We can't shut ourselves in because we have a genuine fear of becoming its prey. The Darkness has no power over us, except for the power that we give it. And if we refuse to submit our power to Darkness, it will never be able to have a hold onto us.

The Native Cherokee's have a tale about this eternal struggle going on in the human psyche. The struggle of Light and Darkness.


A grandfather is telling stories to his grandchildren. He says, 'A great battle is raging within me. A battle for dominance and control over my actions. There are two wolves. One signifies pain, fear, bondage, greed, anger, hurt, evil, hatred, violence, cowardice, ignorance, isolation and separation. The other wolf stands for joy, love, compassion, empathy, understanding, peace, light and courage and freedom.'

He paused to stare at the fire. 'This same battle is going on inside you and everyone else.'

'Which wolf will win?' The grandchildren asked.

'The one I feed,' was his reply.


You have to accept the Darkness and at the same time, know, not just believe but truly know that the Darkness has no power over you or anyone else except that which we give it.


Peace on Earth,
Sarah.

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Birds sing after a storm, why shouldn't we?

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Ami Anne
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posted September 28, 2010 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
You know, Frozen Queen, my guitar teacher was sent by God.
He is the most connected person to God I ever met. He is very humble and loving.

He ALWAYS tells me about the two dogs and the feeding etc.
THANK YOU for reaching out to me and for caring!!!

Ami

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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FrozenQueen
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posted October 28, 2010 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Ami

Stop putting yourself down

You're one of my favoritest people in the world and you are so willing to help anyone and everyone that I won't even bat an eyelid if I saw a halo around your head and a fluffy warm aura to boot

Plus, your third eye is awesome too, no, wait, its AWESOME TOO

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अस्तो मा सद् गमय |
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय |
मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् ||
ॐ शांति शांति शांति

From the unreal, lead me to the real,
From the darkness, lead me to light,
From death and destruction, lead me to immortality.
Peace. Peace. Peace.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 28, 2010 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Frozen Queen
I am so grateful for you in my life. Thank you for being my friend!

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 28, 2010 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I had a few Pluto experiences at this conference.
I stood up for myself quite a few times.
I am so tired of being a wimp

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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