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Topic: Transiting Saturn oppose Natal Chiron
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 30, 2010 01:24 PM
I just started having transiting Saturn oppose my Chiron in 10'32 Aries R in 8th. I was wondering about anybody's experiences with it. In Magi Astrology, it's the heartbreak transit. It is supposed to be a time when people are looked at unfavorably. Solar Fire's interpretation is:
It is time to let go of emotional patterns which have prevented you from expressing your true self. However, the process may be painful, emotionally or physically. As a result you are particularly sensitive during this time, and need to take good care of yourself. It is possible that an event or person could upset your equilibrium causing grief. You may be introspective, pondering on childhood memories and relationships, particularly with parent figures. Although this can be a painful process, there is light at the end of the tunnel. You have the opportunity to gain new understanding of past events and move forward in your life with wisdom and insight.
It will be exact on October 23rd
however,
transiting Saturn is also trining my North Lunar Node in 10'30 Aquarius in 5th and will start trining my Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini, eventually will be oppose my Node/Midheaven midpoint in 10'51 Aries Solar Fire interpretations for transiting Saturn trine North Lunar Node: Destiny beckons for now is the time for you to reap the rewards of past actions and receive benefits which enable you to achieve your life purpose. Doors open paving the way for you to pursue your personal destiny. This could involve opportunities including meeting with a highly-significant person or a group of people to help you on your path or an event which will change the shape of your future. It will be exact on October 23rd too. Solar Fire interpretation for transiting Saturn trine Natal Midheaven:
You have the opportunity during this time to achieve a balance between work and home. You are confident in your chosen profession and may receive recognition for your hard work during this transit. It will be exact on October 29th which is my birthday So how would all 3 transits combined work?
transiting Saturn oppose Chiron seems like a time for unpopularity
but the other transits are supposed to be good for positive connections and recognition The DNA facebook group is on pace to have 900 members by the end of the second week of next month. It already has over 860 members. It's not reasonable to think that DNA will reach the 1,000 member milestone by the end of next month. 1,000 members in less than 5 months of the group's existence. I think that will fit with my Saturn trine Midheaven and North Lunar Node. All I can think of is that I am connecting with people that have experience wounds and are nonconformists. Let's not forget that Chiron is not about just woundedness,healing,and teaching. Chiron is also a maverick. As an object with a highly eccentric orbit, it's a nonconformist. So transiting Saturn in my 2nd house oppose my Chiron can be about addressing those issues of being a nonconformist that deals with society's limitations that have an effect on my self worth and effect matters dealing with intimacy like I feel too different or too nonconformist to be in successful intimate relationship. That's about feelings of inadequacy. Chiron is about feeling inadequate too. Luckily with the trine to the North Node and Midheaven, those inadequacies don't have be a problem because I can connect with similar souls and be recognized in positive ways.
I am thinking that transit combination will be good for attracting people to work in the non profit organization. I am curious about any insights that you might have that will help me understand this combination transit. I want to make the best of it. This seems like an important setup for my next Solar Return period which includes the following Midheaven aspects: Jupiter-Uranus in Pisces in 2nd trine Midheaven,Chiron-Neptune in Aquarius in 1st square Midheaven, Transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Varuna in Cancer in 6th house trine Midheaven,and transiting dwarf planet candidate Sedna oppose Midheaven,and that seems that be more about the domestic environment. I will also have Natal Venus conjunct Solar Return Midheaven. Raymond
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posted October 01, 2010 12:52 AM
I had a look at when I had this transit...September 2007 and it was 1 degree past a conjunction on my natal Venus. When Saturn was exactly conjunct my Venus I was overseas and a guy I liked slept with another girl and it was an argument we had which lasted 2 days. I wasn't even initially there to be with him so I just got over it.
1 week later I flew back to Istanbul and the other guy who I really liked was also with another girl after I had left him for 3 months. I wasn't really heart broken with either because I was in holiday mood and I was having such a good time. IP: Logged |
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posted October 01, 2010 12:54 AM
Also.. This time 10 years ago was when I started daying Ferdi when transit Saturn was conjunct Chiron exactly.
Transit Saturn was also square my natal venus We lasted 10 long years. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted October 01, 2010 01:12 AM
Mine was just exact. It was actually a good experience for me, out of nowhere, surprisingly. First incidence of "healing" I've ever seen chiron do. Ever. If it was even a result of the transit. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1290 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 01, 2010 01:40 AM
Hi Glaucus,I just went through it. I have Chiron toward the end of Pisces so Saturn just opposed it twice this year. I'm not in a romantic relationship so nothing occurred in that respect, even though Chiron rules my 5th House (I have lots of personal experience suggesting that Chiron is one of Virgo's rulers). What happened is that part of one of my wisdom teeth loosened up considerable and part of it fell out, or I was able to pull it out. Seven years ago, the same thing happened when Saturn squared my Chiron, but then it broke up the wisdom teeth on both sides of my mouth. So the transit manifested as wounded (Chiron) teeth (Saturn) and since Chiron is in Pisces it must be adding to the tooth "softening" process. One day I'll look back and see if it ever affected any romances or creativity issues. Other than that, I have what the Magi Astrologers would call a Cinderella Grand Trine. I have Jupiter trine Netpune and they both trine Chiron in Pisces so I think I've been spared a lot of wounded relationship issues. I tend to help others heal their relationships. But now I'm veering off topic. I hope that helps a little. I hope I was clear because I'm very sleepy and I need to go to bed right now. IP: Logged |
ekf Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted October 01, 2010 02:01 AM
funny - i was going to ask the same question.my girlfriend has magi files and this is what they say: [SATURN OPPOSITION YOUR CHIRON] Transit: ROM/P= -199. SEX/P= Not applicable. HEARTBREAK TRANSIT. This is one of the worst transits you can have. One of two types of problems is likely to arise during this transit, depending on if you are already involved or if you are still looking for love. POSSIBILITY ONE: If you are still looking for someone to love, this is definitely not the time to meet anyone new. By looking now, you will find the date from hell and/or the relationship from hell. You also now have the tendency to fall in love with the wrong person. During this transit, you could meet someone who will break your heart. Usually, your heart will not be broken until long after this transit is gone. It is very rare for anyone to meet his/her soulmate during this cycle, and if someone does it is only because there were also one or more Cinderella Transits at the same time as this Heartbreak Transit. POSSIBILITY TWO: If you are already involved, then during this transit, it is likely that your true love will look at you in the worst light and things that he/she forgave you for in the past is no longer so easily forgivable. Sometimes during this cycle, every relationship that is good for you gets into trouble while you are drawn closer to those that are bad for you. But it is hard for you to realize this is happening because during this time, your common sense and good judgement are impaired. Your judgement can be so weakened now that you may even want to leave your true love to be with someone who is not really good for you. During this Heartbreak Transit, it is best to hold onto whomever you were with before this transit began and do not make any drastic changes in any of your relationships. In other words, do not break off old ties and do not form new ones, and hold onto whomever you were with before this cycle began IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 01, 2010 02:45 AM
Thanks everybodyWell...I am not into Magi Astrology myself,but I am curious because I have transiting Saturn trine North Lunar Node and Midheaven, and those transits seem to be opposite of the effects of Magi Society's views of transiting Saturn oppose Chiron. I have North Lunar Node in 10'30 Aquarius trine Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini, and my retrograde Chiron in 10'32 Aries is sextile both, conjuncting my Node/Midheaven midpoint in 10'51 Aries.
I was wondering the effects of transiting Saturn trine my Midheaven and North Lunar Node in regards to how it would mix with transiting Saturn oppose my Chiron.
Transiting Saturn will oppose my Node/Midheaven midpoint within 1 degree on October 18th and will be exact on October 26th.
Ruth Brummond wrote the following for MC-Node-Saturn combinations: MC.NO.SA. + focused. serious. disciplined. discreet. self-restrained. reserved. socially withdrawn. slow but steady. retrospective; interested in historical factors. pragmatic. To consolidate my connections. To distinguish oneself from others. Problems shared. Departure from or with associates. - inhibited. restricted. difficult to contact. shunned. suppressed. boring. sluggish. stymied. stuck in the past. hard. cold. Postponement of personal contact. Restraint or inhibition in relationships. Difficulties in making contact. Separation of associates. To make contacts under problematic circumstances. also...Chiron is one of over 60 centaurs in our solar system. I have another centaur that aspects my Midheaven,Jupiter,and Lunar Nodes like Chiron does. I have Chiron's fellow centaur Asbolus in 9'57 Leo conjunct my South Lunar Node in 10'30 Leo in 11th, trine Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 3rd and Chiron in 10'30 Aries R in 8th, and sextile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini. So transiting Saturn will be sextiling my Asbolus as its opposing my Chiron.
Asbolus: An intuitive Auger. Orbital Period: 75.78 yr.
Positive - intrepid, courageous, leading the charge, motivated to reach the top, intuitive, wise, common sense insightful, solid advice Negative - lack of sensibility, blind action, failing to follow instincts, intuitions, omens or sensors, easily intoxicated, unable to receive advice from self or others Mundane - common sense, intuitive forces, mountain climbing - specifically in the face of obvious danger, risk taking especially under the influence, abstract logic, extreme sense of smell Ceremonial - meditation, visualization of tasks before setting to action, climbing to reclaim a sense of nature http://philipsedgwick.com/ Raymond ------------------ No..I am not a Virgo.
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posted October 01, 2010 08:44 AM
Ekf,That explained my double situation very well IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 2409 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted June 02, 2022 03:57 AM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 22963 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 02, 2022 08:44 AM
The first time, my mum was engaged to a sociopath. A dreadful time. I had nightmares about him, until I was nineteen. The same recurring nightmare. It’s also around the time my social anxiety really kicked in. I got glasses, got bullied, was the new kid yet again. Etc, etc. but this guy was the one who taught my sister to fight physically. The second time, was a reflection of that. The beginning of it. Same sister starting to beat me up and harass me, over a man who was a cheating dick, but she loved him, so he was an angel. I was trash. She said that. Protect the abusive man at all costs. It never ends. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 7595 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 07, 2022 05:31 PM
bumpI had this transit a few years ago. I'll have to look up when Saturn Capricorn was around 11 degrees. IP: Logged |
Abc333 Knowflake Posts: 565 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 17, 2022 09:26 PM
I experienced this transit about four or five years ago. A 5.5 year long relationship I was in ended. I saw it coming since I was using astrology to look ahead and was just one day off in predicting the timing.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 162594 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 29, 2022 09:39 AM
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