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Peri
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posted September 30, 2010 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chariklo was the wife of Chiron. She was discovered in 1997, and is about compassion and emotional connection, among other themes. She is about the "Need for definition between intimacy and personal space. Seeking definition of human interaction and boundaries. Desire to help without co-dependent interference. Negative: invasive, manipulative, solicitous without intent to respond, aloof. Positive: an shoulder to cry upon, well defined relating agenda, counselor of independence vs. intimacy.

Key words for Chariklo: intimacy and personal space, compassion and emotional connection

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Chariklo: In Greek myth, Chariklo was the wife of Chiron. She offers relief from the dictates of patriarchy, through the safeguarding of sacred sexuality. Chariklo can represent balanced, active feminine expression, however she also serves in protection of social boundaries including those that are transgender or sexual in nature. The polarization of woman into virgin or ***** that characterizes many cultures, can be left behind for mature, self-fulfilled, maternal yet sexually active womanhood. As expressed by astrologer Philip Sedgwick, Chariklo is all about learning to maintain two important personal boundaries; one that would promote quality relations with other people and another that protects personal, sacred space, namely the enclosure of your own spirituality and individuality.
http://www.mysticmarguerite.com/WebDocs/Texts/Asteroids.html

so where is Chariklo # 10199 in your natal chart? can you relate to the description above? how about synastry? any chariklo/chiron aspects with your loved ones?

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DD
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posted September 30, 2010 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly I mentioned her just today.

anyway so I have:
AURA on 4.4 Aries:

Isolda on 3.1 Aries
IC on 4.5 Aries
Centaur Chariklo (chiron´s wife) on 6.3 Aries
Magion on 6.5 Aries
sirene on 8.1 Aries

Actually it is making a Grand trine with

Hypnos on 6.0 Leo

and

Mars on 5.1 Sag
Polyhymnia on 6.1 Sag
Beatles on 6.3 Sag
ASC on 7.0 Sag
Angel on 7.3 Sag
Lust on 7.4 Sag
Wisdom on 7.5 Sag

I think I remember that my Chariklo is exactly conjunct PA`s Chiron.

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posted September 30, 2010 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I remember, mine is in early Cancer, conjunct Saturn, square Jupiter and Pluto, trine Mars, Uranus and ascendant (depending on orbs used).

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posted September 30, 2010 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chariklo on 13' pisces
cj chaldea
trine adonis 15' scorpio
trine cupid 12' cancer
opp wisdom 13' virgo pallas 14' virgo

It conjuncts my mans chiron and opp his pluto lol

His chariklo opp my AC/Kaali and semi sextiles my chiron

I didn't bother looking at other aspects.

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posted September 30, 2010 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked 5 married couples, only 2 of them have Chiron /Chariklo aspects, the rest have Chiron or Chariklo in aspect to the synastry luminaries, angles or angle rulers.

my brother - his wife
Chariklo 1'47 aries - 12'09 aries
Chiron 15'38 aries - 24'04 aries
his Chiron conj her Chariklo (3) and Moon (3)

my dad - my mum
Chariklo 25'45 scor - 0'52 cap
Chiron 18'25 scor - 17'16 cap
his Chiron sextile her Chiron (1)
his Chiron sextile her Moon (1)

couple 1 him - her
Chariklo 23'37 tau - 20'28 tau
Chiron 2'16 gem - 28'05 tau
his Chariklo is widely conj her Chiron (5) and Sun (1)

couple 2 him - her
Chariklo 19'05 aqua - 28'04 aries
Chiron 10'35 pisc - 8'29 tau
her Chiron sextile his Chiron (2) conj his ASC (0)
his Chiron sextile her Saturn (1)
her Chariklo opp his Sun (2)
his Chariklo conj ner MC (1) square Venus (2) trine ASCR Merc (1) sextile Moon (3)

couple 3 him - her
Chariklo 16'43vir - 8'21 lib
Chiron 19'26 can - 10'28 leo
his Chariklo widely conj her NN (5) trine Mars (1)
her Chariklo conj his Sun (0)
her Chiron conj his ASC (0) sextile his Sun (1)

my most serious relationship
him - me
Chariklo 11'35 ari - 21'58 ari
Chiron 24'30 ari - 2'18 tau
his Chiron conj my Chariklo (2) and SN (0)
his Chariklo conj my Venus IC R (2) trine my ASC R Saturn (1), opp my MC R Pluto (0)
my Chiron trine his MC (2)

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posted September 30, 2010 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Chariklo is actually a larger,brighter centaur than Chiron too.


I have a grand trine of

Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd
Centaur Chariklo in 23'53 Pisces in 7th
Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Candidate Orcus in 22'28 Cancer R in 11th


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posted October 01, 2010 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

your Chariklo is conjunct my Jupiter on 11 Pisces.

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posted October 01, 2010 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri,

I am going to check on this later.

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posted October 01, 2010 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 02, 2010 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ that's the cutest lil smiley pic

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posted October 02, 2010 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
intimacy and personal space, compassion and emotional connection

She sounds like my kind of gal!

Awhl rite,
Chariklo is @ 10¯¯°13" Taurus in the 10th

So she shows where you're an independent, yet connected woman..the inner you that acts in that manner...

Mine's in Taurus so when secure and balanced I act in an earth mother manner, striving to achieve in the outer world (10th) but also seeking spiritual fulfillment through staying grounded and seeking pleasure (Taurus). Or I may act in these ways and divide my energies in this manner to achieve mature feminine balance.

Does that sound right, Peri?

Well I guess it's true, altho I *do* have Venus and Moon in Earth, and in an Earth house..so I can't comment too much as it's v.similiar...
In synastry, I never attract early or mid Taurus placements.
It's square my Mercury in the 7th, and Mercury there rules a lot of what I'm attracted to/attract. I will have to say that those men do not really allow me to be nurturing in relationship. But then again, my Moon and Venus hardly ever receive positive aspect in synastry.

With my most serious relationship:
-his Chariklo conj my Chiron, 2°
(don't ask me what that means)

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posted October 02, 2010 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
orbs would need to be tight, as the centaurs (including Chiron and Chariklo) move pretty slowly - they are the bridge between Saturn and the transpersonals after all.

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posted October 02, 2010 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. Totally unexpected meeting. I just meet someone I thought I never will meet again. This man have his chariklo 19,01 in pisces conj my chiron 18,01 in pisces(0-1) .

My chariklo 26,22 in aqua conj
His N.N 26,27 in aqua

Transit chiron in retro conj my Chariklo conj his N.N.

Talk about surprise!!!!.

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posted October 02, 2010 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what asteroid I was thinking of before, but I've just keyed in Chariklo, and found it at 11*Aries, in my 5th, square my Saturn (almost exactly), trine my Midheaven and Neptune.

Widely conjunct Jupiter and opposed Pluto.

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posted October 02, 2010 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a quick rundown through some synastries:

my parents:

His Chariklo square her Mars exact (but no angle ruler)
her Chariklo square his ASC (1)
her Chariklo conjunct his Chiron exact!

Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward
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his Chariklo square her Sun exact
his Chariklo conjunct her Jupiter exact
her Chariklo no aspects

Paul Mc Cartney - Linda Eastman
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his Chariklo conjunct her Sun-Chariklo-conjunction


Johnny Cash - June Carter
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his Chariklo conjunct her Pluto
her Chariklo trine his Sun

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posted October 02, 2010 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mothers chiron 8,34 in cancer
My fathers chariklo 10,58 in cancer
they met each other when my mother was 16. My father is 80 today. They was separete in 10 year. Today it looks like both of them find one's way home again.

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posted October 02, 2010 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ordered Sedwick's galactic report a while back and luckily Chariklo doesn't form any aspects in my chart. Which according to Sedgwick's means: "Automatically you know where you need to stand next to another person for perfect impact. Perfact impact suggests having the full attention of the other person without overwhelming your sensors."

I guess those who have a unaspected Chariklo are prone to give others more personal space. Yet this asteroid is widely conjunct the Desc. Just adding further detachment to my already detached Gemini Desc.

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posted October 02, 2010 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend of my childhood and his whife who been married since she was 17. She is 50 today and he 53.

His chiron 12,15 in aqua
Hers chariklo 7,15 in aqua

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posted October 02, 2010 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well DD this asteroid is square to my Mercury, but the orb is 5 degrees so I guess it's too wide.
Wait.........
It's opposed my Jupiter by less than 1 degree.
Darn it,
Vertiver I wanted to be part of your club, lol.

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posted July 23, 2014 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My venus/mars conjunction oppose Lilith and all square Chariklo making Chariklo the focul point of a tsquare.

Beatiful huh. Chariklo would be the key of my opposition between venus/mars and lilith.

Very neat. I also have chariklo trine my sun.

ADD:

My chariklo conjuncts exact the apex of a composite YOD in chiron.

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The following is from Philip Sedgwick's site:
Centaurs: Cosmic High Horses
Centaurs are a unique group of bodies more or less part of the Kuiper Belt, a region of icy dust and asteroid-like bodies near the edge of our solar system. There may be hundreds of thousands of Kuiper Belt Objects. A smaller subset of this collection, Centaurs, by definition, must possess a perihelion distance greater than that of Jupiter and a semi-major axis that does not exceed Pluto's aphelion distance from the Sun (originally defined as a semi-major axis less than that of Neptune, but ignored as definition of the bodies continued).
Chiron: The wounded healer who possesses insight, wisdom and grace. Orbital Period: 50.27 yr.
Positive - healing, just, wise, fair, insightful, knowledgeable, skilled in arts, medicine, healing, philosophy, focused, positively full of one’s self, sense of soul’s purpose
Negative - opinionated, teaching others the lessons needed by oneself, wounding, corrupt, illicit, irritating demeanor, clinging, feeling homely or unwanted, estranged from parents
Mundane - healing of all types from allopathic medicine and surgery to chiropractic and all forms of homeopathy and naturopathy, soul retrieval, justice, mentoring programs, cave exploration, illegitimate offspring, archery
Ceremonial - soul retrieval, any natural healing modality, chiropractors, retreats - especially in caves, ceremonial chambers or kivas, making a talking stick or ceremonial arrow

Pholus: Keeper of the sacred wine and host to Hercules. Orbital Period: 91.95 yr.
Positive - just, wise, nurturing, meeting the needs of others while keeping own needs in balance, conscious of choice, ceremonial, pacifism, self nurturing, attentive
Negative - opinionated believing rules of cosmic forces do not apply to oneself, addicted to food or alcohol, careless regarding weaponry (or security tools), ignoring spiritual needs, indulgent, reclusive, meddling
Mundane - food and drink - especially regarding celebrations, daily ceremony and ritual
Ceremonial - toasting, blessings and grace, celebrations, creating a daily hour of power

Nessus: Ferryman at the River Evenus. Orbital Period: 120.76 yr.
Positive - generous, benevolent, compassionate, willing to lend a helping hand, cooperative, respectful of boundaries, aware of the power of life force energy, healthy use of sexual energy
Negative - coveting, possessive, jealous, vengeful, manipulative, resorting to negative alchemy for personal gain, negative use of sexual energy
Mundane - bad blood between parties, feuds over money especially regarding relationship dissolution, diseases transmitted by blood, transport ferries over water, potions, tonics and elixirs designed to cast spells, therapy specifically designed for healing sexual or monetary issues
Ceremonial - prosperity ceremonies, sexual healing rituals, ceremonies involving Earth fertility

Asbolus: An intuitive Auger. Orbital Period: 75.78 yr.
Positive - intrepid, courageous, leading the charge, motivated to reach the top, intuitive, wise, common sense insightful, solid advice
Negative - lack of sensibility, blind action, failing to follow instincts, intuitions, omens or sensors, easily intoxicated, unable to receive advice from self or others
Mundane - common sense, intuitive forces, mountain climbing - specifically in the face of obvious danger, risk taking especially under the influence, abstract logic, extreme sense of smell
Ceremonial - meditation, visualization of tasks before setting to action, climbing to reclaim a sense of nature

Chariklo: (Female) Consort to Athena and healing assistant to Vesta in the temples. Orbital Period: 63.05 yr.
Positive - boundary sensitive, wise, just, non-assumptive especially regarding personal relationship, interrogative about touchy or delicate issues
Negative - judgmental, feeling of being victimized at a glance, assumptive, intolerant, biased by gender archetypes
Mundane - swimming in the nude, eyesight, hearing, flirting, sexual harassment, motivation oriented
Ceremonial - a see no evil, hear no evil scenario, energetic healing, work to clear intent and motive

Hylonome: (Female) Grief stricken at the loss of her mate in battle. Orbital Period: 125.25 yr.
Positive - relationship devotion, sense of self with or without relationship, accommodating
Negative - grief stricken, co dependent, sacrificial, self esteem based upon relationship, self destructive in the face of relational difficulty
Mundane - grief counseling, bereavement work, relationship healing
Ceremonial - bonding ceremonies between couples, cathartic emotional relief regarding lost love, lost money or missed career opportunities

Pelion: Self-confidence for effort and the climb to accomplishment in life. Sacred Space, professional status, gratitude and sense of destiny. Orbital Period: 89.05 yr.
Positive - driven by dharma, balanced ego in professional status, giving, nurturing and sharing with co-workers with an extraordinary generosity
Negative - Demanding, infantile in work relationships, flaunts social status as a result of accomplishments, showcases with past laurels
Mundane - job recognition, awards and accolades, merits, medals and certificates
Ceremonial - rites of passage, passing of baton, graduation ceremonies into higher spiritual orders

Elatus: Expression of self and ego through word and writing. Orbital Period: 42.16 yr.
Positive - Excellent communication, articulate, precise.
Negative - Verbose, boastful, shallow in conversation.
Mundane - creative writing, affirmations, self improvement courses, poetry
Ceremonial - reciting affirmations, chanting, writing spiritual treatises, ceremonial magic

Thereus: Relational and professional attitudes based upon others. I am what I am in this relationship because of my career status or the ornamentation of this relationship. Orbital Period: 34.63 yr.
Positive - Balance between relationship and work, money and sexuality.
Negative - Object oriented, status seeking, mercenary in work ethics, stunned by glamour and beauty of partner
Mundane - resumes, bios, promotional photos that project an image, any status object whether relational or professional
Ceremonial - tandem energy exercises, hiking for spiritual purpose with a partner, sitting in audience with an enlightened person

Okyrhoe: Daughter of Chiron and Chariklo she promotes principles of discernment and conscious life skills. Orbital Period: 24.38 yr.
Positive - affirming, supporting, common sense based, acute logic skills, organized, detailed
Negative - critical, judgmental, whining or whingeing, prophecies of doom, using logic to find fault, works in perpetual worst case scenarios
Mundane - mental attitude programs, tapes and other repetitive tools for reminding the psyche of a healthy state of mind, failure analysis in technology, spreadsheets and lists - especially those geared at mental health, affirmations, mantras, chants
Ceremonial - chanting, affirming, drumming (establishes cadence), Om exercises, cleaning to promote godliness.

Cyllarus: A handsome, devoted centaur, he represents positive sensual expression, willingness to fully embrace life in the physical plane. Orbital Period: 134.48 yr.
Positive - artistic, soothing, tactile, healing, comforting
Negative - shut down, defensive, protected, lack of creative outlet
Mundane - any body healing including massage, rebirthing, Shiatsu and those involving physical contact, artistic work that comes from full expression, such as painting with the hands, musical skill, culinary ability
Ceremonial - water rituals that include coming back on shore upon completion, rebirthing, creating ceremonies that involve contact with earth elements and water simultaneously

Bienor - This centaur offers a sense of creative spirit, belief in urge of the soul, confidence. His name means literally, “strong man.” Orbital Period: 66.81 yr.
Positive - creative, inspired, talented, motivated, burning with creative vigor
Negative - repressed, sullen, withdrawn, resentful that life does not respond and bestow rewards
Mundane - benefactors, creative sanctuaries, places of recognition (Halls of Fame, etc.), awards, grants and prizes for projects seeking funding support
Ceremonial - mediation upon the heart, Hatha yoga, meditation in general, creating while listening to or dancing with music, dance ceremonies.

Amycus - The longer period of this centaur seeks longevity and notoriety. Orbital Period: 126.38 yr.
Positive - intuitive, questioning, insightful, progressive, determined, reliable
Negative - doubtful, skeptical, withdrawn, often late, unreliable, lacking resolve, insecure
Mundane - doctrines and policies designed to produce a result (policy manuals, creeds), any mechanical device that enables a shift in energy, for instance a clutch for shifting gears, monuments, commandments (as in carved in stone), pictographs and petroglyphs
Ceremonial - stretching, yogas that shift fixed structures, chiropractic sessions, watching storms as a mediation, drumming, descent into the underworld (use of caves or kivas)

Crantor - Emotional declaration stands out as the quest for Crantor, not actually a centaur, but killed by one. A bit of the "What did I every do to you?" syndrome applies. Orbital Period: 86.09 yr.
Positive - sensitive, emotional expressive, strong sense of emotional boundaries, nurturing and passionate
Negative - emotionally abuse, manipulative through feelings, projects guilt, shame and blame upon others, substance abuse
Mundane - acute sense of emotional motivations, cathartic therapies and the ability to lead them, comprehension of emotionally based traumas and phobic responses, grief counseling
Ceremonial - cathartic ceremony, Wailing Wall-like rituals, water cleansing rituals, baptisms, fervent declarations of faith, ceremonies of emotional renewal

Echeclus - The mental balance between the abstract and linear logic. Swift decision making criteria resulting in polarized good idea/bad idea scenarios. Orbital Period 35.24 years.
Positive - mentally integrating, solution oriented, non-judgmental, abstract, conceptual, will shift opinion when new information or consciousness prompts a new set of beliefs
Negative - critical, opinionated, twisted logic, rationalizing, able to justify anything
Mundane - abstract art, conceptual theories, spatial relations, forced decisions under time pressure, close calls, head injuries
Ceremonial - celebration of the coyote or trickster, meditation on time/space warps http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

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