posted October 01, 2010 07:43 AM         

The configuration of aspects formed when three points of a horoscope form a Grand Trine, and two of them are in sextile to a fourth point (Grand Trine with Bisextile).

M.Kozyritskaja and M.Levin state that a Kite gives internal stability, flexibility, and successful realization of abilities. To these are added the aspiration to transform surroundings, early accomplishment, activity, and aggressiveness. The Kite is a big driving force: it combines the abilities and stability of the Grand Trine with the skill inherent in the Bisextile to reap results. At the point of opposition of the "spine" - the tips of the two Kite-making triangles - the native receives additional stability in moving thru life. Possibly there could be constant external problems which require attention, or simply inner discontent.

M.March and J.McEvers reckon that the biggest problem of the Kite is that the configuration comprises three different aspects, and can lead to excessive concentration on part of a horoscope and, correspondingly, to adverse utilization of other opportunities which are contained within the horoscope. "

from: http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html

I thought I might find something that say something about the tip of "the kite", where chiron sits in this chart.

I think maybe this says we work well together and it is a healing or wounding situation?
But Chiron would not be there if I decreased the aspects... the other parts of the trine are further into the water signs....

posted October 01, 2010 08:42 AM         

our one is very tight,

we have some similar spects like in your composite too -

sun opposition jupiter

mars trine venus in water signs (in the same signs too, venus in cancer, mars in scorpio)

posted October 01, 2010 12:49 PM         

I'll be back later.

posted October 02, 2010 09:06 PM         

Chiron gives one the ability to tune in to what needs to be healed in other people, and to become aware of deep wounds that one has within themselves."
~quoted material from same site as above post

Also, Merc/mind and Venus/love and Mars/action combined with Neptune.

posted October 02, 2010 10:38 PM         

I have a grand trine in my chart in air. This link talks about ancient beliefs that Grand trines in charts make a person lazy... that the person doesn't have to work as hard in life. I'm thinking my earth squares ruin that for me. I wonder if it means that this composite grand trine in water means an easy flow of creative energy..?

posted October 03, 2010 03:21 PM         

From an excellent page explaining aspects etc.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html

"Three planets are connected by three trines to form a triangle, the Grand Trine, around which planetary influences circulate with ease. This brings a wealth of natural talent indicated by the signs and houses containing the planets, but may require tense aspects to provide the motivation for its expression.

When the Grand Trine is in:

Fire Signs, talents lie in enthusiasm, and the search for new possibilities.

Earth Signs, talents lie in practical work and experience.

Air Signs, talents lie in intellectual work and the communication of ideas.

posted October 03, 2010 03:44 PM         

i particularly like the descrition from sky script, the 'outlet' of energy from the opposition between the two trining planets..

that has made me think and try to understand our composite..

we have moon (pisces, 8th house), venus (cancer, 12th house) and mars (scorpio, 4th house) in grand trine, with saturn opposing venus creating the kite. (6th house saturn in capricorn). uranus and neptune widely oppose venus too.

i can Definitely say in our case,

venus-mars energy, and moon-venus energy have equally prevailed the tensions of the oppositions involved.

i wonder if the bottom part of the kite, where the moon and mars trine, are also some kind of outlet..

im not sure how moon-mars energy manifests.

i think this is a good read/listen (contains a video)

based on what she said, it made me wonder something.. what is the state of the composite venus? sign? house? aspects?

Does it 'play' the same idea of 'love' to the individuals? does it match? is this a start in working out relationship compatibility? perhaps synastry beteen composite and natal is not aspects, but signs, energy.

in our composite, Venus aspects neptune, saturn, uranus by opposition. and it trines mars and moon.

in my natal chart venus squares jupiter, uranus and saturn, a wide square to neptune and opposition moon.

in her chart it squares neptune and her asc which is in cancer.

my jupiter is in cancer, my uranus and saturn/neptune is in cap. her neptune is in cap.

what im getting at:

the composite venus is receiving energy from planets both our natal venus's is drawn to!

it also seems to work out ith the composite 7th house ruler.

in our synastry our 7th house rulers are conjunct. so we have the same idea for 7th house relations.

in the composite, the 7th house ruler is in the same sign as our natal 7th house rulers, and aspects saturn and uranus by conjunction, which are our natal 7th house rulers (saturn her, uranus me)

i wonder if this is something im getting onto, i would necourage everyone to check if this plays out in the composite-natal themes.

posted October 04, 2010 12:08 PM         

then you have mars/neptune at the MC which mixes collective consciousness/illusion/drive/self-expression/sex...maybe why you are so confused about where this should be going?

posted October 04, 2010 09:44 PM         

Here's another grand trine/kite link http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/GrandTrine15.2.htm

kat, you said this:

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then you have mars/neptune at the MC which mixes collective consciousness/illusion/drive/self-expression/sex...maybe why you are so confused about where this should be going?

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