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kama
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posted October 03, 2010 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message
Dear all,
did you check the aspects of your 8th House ruler in your natal and your synastries?
The 8th House ruler equals Pluto - any new insights?
My ruler of 8th (and 7th) is Uranus - conjunct Mars and Sun in 12th, quare Saturn/Neptune in 4th.
I am very plutonic, but in my natal this is not so obvious at first sight - no major Pluto aspects ( a wide 7° venus/Pluto square). With Uranus ruling my 8th, I have Uranus/Pluto, Sun/Pluto, Mars/Pluto, Saturn/Pluto, Neptune/Pluto.
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Lara
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posted October 03, 2010 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm well i can't figure out how plutonic i am.

I have pluto/uranus cj in 1st house. ruler of 1st sun.
Pluto rules my 4th/IC and 9th (trad ruler mars).
Neptune cj IC.
Neptune rules my 8th.
Uranus rules my 7th.

Aspect-wise i have:
pluto cj uranus in 1st house
pluto trine mars in 10th house
pluto quincunx moon/venus/nn/saturn in 9th house
pluto sextile neptune/IC

neptune opp mars
neptune quincunx moon/venus/nn/saturn

uranus cj pluto
uranus trine mars
uranus quincunx moon/venus/nn/saturn
uranus sextile neptune

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Ami Anne
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posted October 03, 2010 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting, Kama

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amowls*
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posted October 03, 2010 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
The ruler of my 8th is Saturn, which is a bug player in my chart. I'm not very Plutonic, though. Pluto itself isn't highly aspected, just a sextile to Neptune, a generational aspect.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 03, 2010 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Describe what you mean about your Saturn, Amowls.

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vertiver
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posted October 03, 2010 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Are you talking about the sign on the cusp of the 8th H? What if you have a inverted sign in the 8th H? My 8th H starts with Cancer and ends with Virgo, meaning Leo is inverted in there...

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posted October 03, 2010 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
vertiver, the intercepted sign's ruler would be a secondary ruler of that house.

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posted October 03, 2010 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
kama, my h8 ruler is the same as my h7 ruler.

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vertiver
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posted October 04, 2010 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
So Moon and, then - Cancer and Leo. Not a good mix in a man, a Leo with Cancer Asc. fakely sincere, grrrrh!

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jane
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posted October 04, 2010 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
My 8th house ruler is in Scorpio in my 1st house.

Ami - Maybe that's why I seem Plutonian to you.

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posted October 04, 2010 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
kama -

I agree that house rulers are significant. I also think midpoints could be at work here. Have you looked at yours? If you feel very Plutonian, you likely have Pluto involved in important midpoints.

In my experience, midpoints are just as strongly felt as tight ptolemaic aspects/configs.

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kama
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posted October 04, 2010 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message
In classical astrology the ruler of the 8th house is a malefic - and its contacts to other planets, too. It signifies all the issues we contribute to Pluto.
The sign at the house cusp gives already an indication of our way of treating 8th house matters.
If our 7th and 8th houses are in the same sign (as with me aquarius), it gives a good picture of our role in relationships and the kind of people we attract.
Look at the house wher the R8 is placed - my R8 is in the 12th house - I am very discreet about my relationships, where I need and give a lot of freedom (uranus), and I never married - not because of a lack of opportunity but because I am not very conventional in my relationships.
Also consider the old rulers of scorpio (mars), aquarius (saturn) and pisces (jupiter).
You may get new insights.
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kama
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posted October 04, 2010 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Jane,
you are right - I have strong pluto-midpoints, but you wouldn't see these qualities at first picture in my chart.
I find it interesting to use house rulers (and also the old ones) in this way, I think you get quicker insights than by searching for many asteroids and other bodies.
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kama
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posted October 04, 2010 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lara,
what is the ruler f your 8th house, in which house is it and what aspects does it make?
And then consider this planet as if it were pluto.
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kama
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posted October 04, 2010 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message
And good news I found on www.cafeastrology.com:

"When someone's 8th house planet or ruler of their 8th house forms a strong aspect with one or more of your planets, you are likely to ignite passion in that person."
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LanaofAugust
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posted October 04, 2010 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LanaofAugust     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't really thought about this before, BUT:

The ruler of my 8th house is Uranus which is in exact conjunction with Pluto...

Hmm... on top of that I have Mars in Scorpio sextile Sun... and Pluto semisextile Mercury (the ruler of my Sun).

And Pluto opposite Saturn in the 8th house... (plus some other aspects).

I guess I am rather Plutonian.

(But on the other hand I have Moon&Venus conjunction in Libra to make me "Venusian").

~ Lana

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kama
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posted October 04, 2010 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message
How interesting! So do I understand well: you have a saturn opposed uranus/pluto?
With your wonderful venus/moon in libra, do you have conflicts with control/distance in your relationships?
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posted October 04, 2010 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Jane,

You are most DEFINITELY Plutonic! Are you kidding me? Are you saying you don't have a heavy Pluto influence in your chart? C'mon, you jest! Everytime I read your replies, you're always digging deeper. Trying to solve everyone's mysteries. Trying to understand whatever it is we're talking about.

...but then again... do you have a lot of Aqua? Maybe you're an aloof researcher instead of an avid psychologist?

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LanaofAugust
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posted October 05, 2010 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LanaofAugust     Edit/Delete Message
Hi kama :-)

Well... I think I've learned to handle it. I've been with the same guy (Aquarius) for years now.

I accept his need for freedom/distance and I love my time alone, BUT I need to know that he is there for me if I need that...

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Ami Anne
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posted October 05, 2010 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
What planet is your 8th house ruler, Jane?
Yes, you DO seem Scorpio/Pluto like as the primary thing, at least on LL,to me.


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