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Peri
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posted October 04, 2010 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
Another name for Lilith (in Greek mythology) is Lamia, there is asteroid Lameia # 248

So where is it in your chart? what aspects does it make?

I have it in Cancer sextile Sun (3) trine Pluto (0) parallel Jupiter, havent checked aspects to other asteroids yet.P

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DD
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posted October 04, 2010 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
In Greek the "Lamias" were thought to be female vampires, some kind of succubus for men and killing young children at night.


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DD
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posted October 04, 2010 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
LOL

Just checked Lameia in my chart:


it is on 26.46 SAgittarius in 1st house
conjunct Sun on 26 Sag
conjunct Mercury on 25 Sag
conjunct Circe on 27 SAg.
conjunct Draco Hekate and Draco Lilith, too. lol


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Peri
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posted October 04, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
lol DD! my Draco Lameia is conj natal Moon (1)

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Glaucus
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posted October 04, 2010 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
In Ecliptic Longitude:
Lameia in 19'02 Aquarius in 6th
oppose Makemake in 16'21 Scorpio in 12th
square Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd
square Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd


In Right Ascension:
Lameia in 19'57 Aquarius
square Venus in 19'22 Scorpio
sextile Eris in 19'32 Aries R
quincunx Haumea in 20'15 Virgo


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posted October 04, 2010 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I was curious about Lameia ,and so I looked it up

In ancient Greek mythology, Lamia (Greek: Λάμια was a beautiful queen of Libya who became a child-eating daemon. While the word lamia literally means "large shark" in Greek, [1] Aristophanes claimed her name derived from the Greek word for gullet (λαιμός; laimos), referring to her habit of devouring children.[2]

Some accounts say she has a serpent's tail below the waist.[3] This popular description of her is largely due to Lamia, a poem by John Keats published in 1819.[4] Antoninus Liberalis uses Lamia as an alternate name for the serpentine drakaina Sybaris. However, Diodorus Siculus describes her as having nothing more than a distorted face.[5]

Later traditions referred to many lamiae; folkloric monsters similar to vampires and succubi that seduced young men and then fed on their blood.[6]


ccording to Diodorus Siculus, Lamia was born the beautiful daughter of King Belus of Egypt, making her the granddaughter of Poseidon and Lybie.[7] Upon her father's death she became queen of one of his territories, Libya.[8] However, while visiting Delphi, Pausanias remarks that Lamia was the daughter of Poseidon. He also states that Lamia and Zeus were the parents of Herophile, a noted sibyl.

Diodorus goes on to relate that Lamia had an affair with Zeus and bore him children. When Hera, Zeus's wife, discovered the affair, she became enraged and killed the children. Driven insane with grief, Lamia began devouring other children, and, according to Diodorus, her face became hideously distorted from her grisly deeds.[9]

Zeus then gave her the ability to remove her eyes. In Diodorus the purpose of this is unclear, but other versions state this came with the gift of prophecy. Zeus did this to appease Lamia in her grief over the loss of her children.[10]

Later stories state that Lamia was cursed with the inability to close her eyes so that she would always obsess over the image of her dead children. Some accounts (such as that of Horace, below) say that Hera forced Lamia to devour her own children. Myths variously describe Lamia's monstrous (occasionally serpentine) appearance as a result of either Hera's wrath, the pain of grief, the madness that drove her to murder, or - in some rare versions - a natural result of being Hecate's daughter.[11]

Horace, in Ars Poetica (l.340) imagines the impossibility of retrieving the living children she has eaten:

Neu pranse Lamiae vivum puerum extrabat alvo.

Alexander Pope translates the line:

Shall Lamia in our sight her sons devour,

and give them back alive the self-same hour?

Stesichorus identifies Lamia as the mother of Scylla, by Phorcys.[12] This may be a conflation of Lamia with the sea goddess Ceto, traditionally Phorcys's wife and mother of Scylla. Further passing references to Lamia were made by Strabo (i.II.8) and Aristotle (Ethics vii.5). Other sources cite Triton as having fathered Scylla by Lamia.

Antoninus Liberalis identifies the dragon Sybaris with Lamia, another conflation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamia_%28mythology%29

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DD
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posted October 04, 2010 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
That is really interesting. Thanks for digging that up.

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teasel
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posted October 04, 2010 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
Mine is in my 4th house, sextile my Mercury, Ceres, Chiron and Sun, and trine Nessus in the 8th.

It's also conjunct the descendant of a person I know. It's also conjunct my sister's Venus.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 04, 2010 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
It is amazing you have it on your Sun,DD.
The asteroids can be incredible!

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amowls*
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posted October 04, 2010 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting how the women always get punished whenever effing Zeus decides he wants to sleep with them.

eta: I have Lameia conjunct Jupiter (aka Zeus lol)

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DD
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posted October 04, 2010 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Amowls,

yes, that is pretty unfair.
Just because he is the king of Gods.

Ami,

yes, I am pretty surprised what asteroids are all on my sun. lol

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Ami Anne
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posted October 04, 2010 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Can you relate to all the asteroids on your sun>DD?
Do they all have meaning for you, now?

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DD
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posted October 04, 2010 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Most, yes.
Not sure about Lameia.
But would explain my fascination with the vampire myth.
Transylvania is on my MC and Pluto and exact sextile ASC, too. lol

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Nephthys
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posted October 04, 2010 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Peri,

I am at work but want to ask you something, could you e-mail me at nephthys@linda-goodman.com, and I will try and get into my personal e-mail from work?

Thank you

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Peri
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posted October 04, 2010 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
sure sweets! You got mail

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Nephthys
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posted October 04, 2010 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Eeeek! There's nothing in there.

You sent it to the nephthys one?

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Nephthys
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posted October 04, 2010 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
OK just got it and replied.

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 04, 2010 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
** Interesting how the women always get punished whenever effing Zeus decides he wants to sleep with them.**

yeah .. but look doing the punishing .. his effing wife :-)
" When Hera, Zeus's wife, discovered the affair, she became enraged and killed the children. "

inserting cartoon for the s'ke of it

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upcoming .. the 'seige of troy' ..
and how it relates to .. mars-pluto

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teasel
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posted October 04, 2010 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
at HD's cartoon.

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Peri
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posted October 04, 2010 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
haha, so true!

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evanski
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posted October 05, 2010 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message

Peri, I just looked at my next SR with Lameia and Datura.

Tr Datura conj nat Saturn (1)
Tr Saturn conj nat Lameia (1)

Saturn rules my 8th house

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Peri
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posted October 05, 2010 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I dont think there's a need to worry, evanski, just be careful with all kinds of meds and alcohol/drugs.

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posted October 05, 2010 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you

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posted October 05, 2010 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FrozenQueen     Edit/Delete Message
Keats, Lamia
quote:
A virgin, purest-lipped
but in the lore,
of Love, deep-learned,
to the red heart's core

My favorite verse from the poem...

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