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Astra
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posted October 08, 2010 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone.

I recently started dating someone and I'd like to get more insight into his personality. I find him really hard to read for some reason.

Here is his natal chart:

Here is our synastry chart. He is on the outside in red. I'm on the inside in blue:

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Lonake
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posted October 08, 2010 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a tip: He finds himself hard to read, too. You're not the only one that's confused.

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Predominantlyfire
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posted October 10, 2010 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Predominantlyfire     Edit/Delete Message
Hard to read - i immediately thought of Pluto conjunct his ascendent. Then i look and he has Pluto conjunct ascendent! I find the Libran ascendents with Pluto conjunct particularly manipulative actually. Because the ostensibly diplomatic and charming exterior belies something much darker underneath. They have deep penetrating eyes that give them away though. Once you've seen the real them you'll keep a distance between you.
I find the sum of his chart with all placings considered to be quite narcassistic actually.

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seeleah
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posted October 10, 2010 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
um...
I was thinking perhaps his neptune oppose your sun? but I could be wrong and his 5th house is ruled by picese but which I think can be hard to be wooed by someone that has a 5th house picese..neptune confuses me..but I see that his mercury seems to be getting along with you, unless I missed something.

pdf- really? pluto conjucts ascendant is like that? I have a girlfriend that one of he best persons I know that has pluto conjunct ascendant from the 12th, and an guy that I fell deeply in love with that broke my heart with pluto conjunct asc but from the 1st house..very mixed reviews for me...

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Astra
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posted October 10, 2010 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Oops...I forgot to add that I don't know his time of birth. His chart was constructed at the generic time: 12pm. However, it is possible he has pluto aspecting his ascendant; he does have intense and piercing eyes

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amowls*
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posted October 11, 2010 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I've never found people with Pluto conjunct asc particularly hard to read, and all the ones I know are Scorp risings.

I thought of the 12th but it looks like he doesnt have any planets in yours. I wish you had his birth time :/

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Chryseis
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posted October 11, 2010 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Astra,

Talk about mindblowing! This guy is almost the same in astro make up as a guy I work with.

The guy I know is 28 July 1978. He even has the same moon sign, but I don't know his time of birth and house placements.

Leo Sun, taurus moon people are supercool without exception. They are traditionalists at heart and appreciate smart people, quality in goods and services, good food and wine, quality linen etc.

I won't use the house placements but I will give my impression of him.

With a leo sun square moon, he doesn't like to be on anyone's agenda unless they are already on his and he can dictate the hows and whys of how he is prepared to fit into theirs.

People are on HIS agenda, full stop, and with all those virgo planets, he has everyone he has ever met categorised.

Everyone is subject to his in built discriminator-meter. He is sanguine, attracts a wide range of attention, and is probably as funny as hell. He also battles with an inner disquiet of insecurity around material resources and as to who he can trust. He is looking for someone practical that won't get rattled by his dark side and who can naturally stay the course through his tantrums, which are usually over things in which he feels he has been slighted, taken for granted, or unduly charged.

His security blanket 'other' will watch his back, won't discount his paranoia, and will weather his regular leaps into chaotic self-assessment.

He no doubt has a bit of the environmentalist, humanitarian and volunteer within him. He will likely have addictions whether it be food, cannabis or alcohol and any other number of secret ones. He is aware however that he needs time to recover his health periodically and is aware of body changes in his health status. These will play on his mind, as he surrepticiously makes a few changes to relieve his anxiety over them.

He likes the idea of being everyone's favourite and will go out of his way to periodically give something worthwhile to those in his closer circle that he cares about because they have shown that they care about him. He likes giving traditionally romantic gifts and items the person can wear.

He will lie, lie, lie but it is not pathological in its intent to manipulate or harm but more so used as a defence or to cover something that he thinks might adversely affect someone's opinion of him.

In some ways he will be more honest too than anyone you know and he is sensitive to the angst people have over their imperfections. He may in particular care about people with a disability and will seek to equalise their status and disable some of the barriers around them.

With your venus on his moon you will always mutually admire one another and even when he annoys you, you will find it difficult to maintain any long term dislike.

Your natal venus/pluto thing going on will make him antsy, and with your moon's in square this does not make for ease of merging home living situations. His jupiter opposing your moon though will make it more likely for him to make compromises if he can intellectualise the arrangement and put everything and everyone in a manageable place.

His neptune opposing your sun/merc makes for some awe of you on his part. He would find it difficult to fault you and would think, 'You're pretty damn good'. BUT...apparently, his idea of a woman does not encompass one who leaves their socks/stockings, underwear etc lying/hanging around for several days until you decide to wear them from where you left them to dry or whatever. His problem with them is that they are no longer clean.

He will wrestle with his sexuality, will be bitchy almost to the point of neurotic gay bitchiness and may harbour secret desires to be sexually attractive to his own sex as well as to every female on the planet. He likes to play the game of tempting females but then saying something to the effect of 'well sorry, boohoo, you can't have me'.

You have a few tricks up your sleeve too however to combat and shake people up if they start thinking they can yawn over your character or become a little too blase over your uniquess. You're often way in front of people and in what they might give you credit for.

You can turn many steadfast or humdrum opinions on their head in a moment. Problem is, his superior discernment is built on tried and true basics not on the unpredictable so he has already categorised you for your value, character and qualities no matter what you do pretty much.

Ultimately, between you there is a huge attraction, with lots of flourishing and refreshing energies that vivify, but generally the cat (he) has the low down on your mousiness and he rarely changes his mind once its made up.

So, if you detect any vague dissatisfaction or disinclinement on his part, it won't improve though he may decide to tolerate if you overall suit his needs.

You don't need to change though just because you don't quite suit his criteria - he actually is quite a handful, even for himself, and he sure can be exhausting - not something a geminian would relish. He does also put a lot into a relationship if he thinks its worthwhile.

Your mental and emotional reserves would be squeezed as you tried to journey with him through his periodic forays into his multiplicity.

His disconcerting confrontations in self-assessment would be quite draining, and being a schizoid gemini yourself you already have a room of mirrors to contend with - let alone having just the hint of him glimpsed walking through them to unsettle the equilibrium that you try hard to achieve.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Chyseis
If you care to--and it is prolly too nervy on my part -lol--but could you explain some of your conclusions using the chart specifics, a little more.


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Astra
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posted October 11, 2010 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Chryseis, that was quite helpful!

He does seem to tempt women like you said and is quite bold, which took me by surprise since he appears to be your stereotypical geek. However, now that we're exclusive, he ignores other women.

He does treat me very well and is very romantic, but after knowing him for only 1 week, I already got the feeling he was hiding something. This was confirmed a week later when he directly told me that he does have a secret he wants to tell me, but preferred to wait a bit later. We've only been together for a month, so I can understand him not wanting to spill his deepest and darkest secrets. On the other hand, I don't want to waste my time in a relationship if it turns out that his secret ends up being a deal breaker for me.

The bit about addictions you talked about kind of worries me because I do not want to deal with anyone's addictions since my life is stressful enough as it is. So far I'm not aware of any addictions, but you never know...

I like him, but I'm kind of on the fence regarding this relationship. I wish I could look into the future and see how long this relationship will last (if it will last) and if there's someone else I should be with. Ugh...this is so confusing. Thank you to everyone for listening to my geminian indecisiveness.


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Chryseis
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posted October 11, 2010 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Ami Anne,

What specifically would you like me to clarify?

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Chryseis
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posted October 11, 2010 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Astra,

If he is by all accounts your stereotypical geek, then I have the wrong man, disregard the analysis as that type of label would never apply.

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seeleah
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posted October 11, 2010 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
me the lying part! I know a guy with alot of those planetary placements but in his progressed chart! the virgo stuff in particular for me.

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Astra
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posted October 11, 2010 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Well, he APPEARS to be a stereotypical geek at first glance, but he isn't shy or meek by any means. He's quite bold, in fact. Maybe I should say he looks like a geek but acts like a jock.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 11, 2010 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message

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Chryseis
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posted October 12, 2010 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
Nuh, still won't apply, no way, forget my analysis.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 12, 2010 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Well, Chryseis
It was amazing in the sense that the person you described became 3D down to small details.
It reminded me of an FBI Profiler's report


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Chryseis
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posted October 12, 2010 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
yes

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