posted October 16, 2010 07:40 PM           

        
Wow Where do I start?
After I think AriesCancer wrote about what a bad experience she had with him I said I was going to give him a try.

I just had a 45 minute discussion with him. HE was very nice and very direct which was great because he doesn't beat around the bush. It was amazing how spot on to the month and year he was with everything.

He knew about when my relationships ended. The first thing he mentioned was my mother and how much of a bad impact (basically) she had on my life.

He mentioned when I got sick when I was younger and when I moved overseas. He knew the year and month for EVERYTHING!!!

He told me that I was pretty much in the wrong line of work and that I should be doing something along the lines of teaching english to foreigners or working in the arts of some sort.

He told me so many things that every minute shocked me like I became paranoid he knew someone I knew

He told me that the most important time of my life was coming up and that my life was going to change significantly in the next few months to what will lead up to the most successful and positive time of my life. He said that I will win my court case and my life will change dramatically. He said he believes I will go overseas in January of 2011 which is a few months away and FEB,MARCH 2011 I will get a really good job and my life will start to become more stable and I will settle down. He said it was extremely positive and he sounded excited as well. He said to trust him and consider my career before considering a relationship. He said this is the time also that will lead me to a major change where I will mature and find an appropriate man for my new personality.

He mentioned I would consider marriage in April to May of 2012 to this new guy and I will be very happy.

When I asked him about children he didn't really want to get into it and mentioned adoption. He said you always have adoption or other means to having children in this day and age but wasn't neccessarily saying I won't have children. Of course I started to become worried and he said what would an ancient astrologer say to you if your 5th house ruler is conjunct Pluto? I said pluto rules death, transformation etc and he said not to worry about that and that he doesn't see children in the next few years.

He mentioned some issues around conceiving. I know he didn't directly say it but I felt he meant that I will not have kids naturally.

He was so accurate that I can't help but think he is right.

posted October 16, 2010 08:14 PM           

We are predestined to live everything because astrology is so accurate to the skilled astrologer.

He mentioned the EXACT month and YEARS I travelled to when I got sick with Meningitis.

He knew too much. If there was free will I would've expected him to be wrong about a few things. He knew when my education was interrupted, when I had my anxiety attacks when I was depressed over a relationship in 2001. The most obvious which is my mother, my astrology chart already confirmed at BIRTH that my mother was going to ruin majority of my life. It foretells, it compells and it is demotivating and depressing at times so people introduced free will to keep us positive about change and will power. It is all a lie.

We are like programmed robots living our pre-programmed pre-arranged destiny. We have no say in it. We can't make something happen that isn't meant to be.

posted October 16, 2010 08:54 PM         

I think a lot, if not most of our life is predestined. Like 99.9%. But.....

what else has a 99.9% effectivess rate yet fails often?

Birth control pills.

I thought that was an apropos analogy. It could happen, because miracles do happen sometimes.

Maybe he just thinks you shouldn't conceive when t. pluto is around your sun or that you won't during that time. 33 is good. You have to meet the right person first.

posted October 16, 2010 10:00 PM           

When you click on it you can see his number etc and call him to make an appointment over the phone.

posted October 16, 2010 10:01 PM           

When you click on it you can see his number etc and call him to make an appointment over the phone.

posted October 16, 2010 10:09 PM           

I was never really sure myself I was ever going to have them. It seems to be something I fantasise over rather than believe it will become real one day.

posted October 17, 2010 02:29 AM           

Love you baby girl

posted October 17, 2010 05:44 AM         

He was wrong. About me and about the life I had led.
Also what he predicted was wrong, what I can judge now. And the suggestions he made to me were absolute hilarious. He contradicted all he wrote in his books.
So I wrote to him and explained my disappointment.

posted October 17, 2010 07:30 AM           

One thing I am unsure of is that he mentioned that January , February in the next few months was going to be a very good time for me.

Progressed moon will be on my mc and north node and natal moon.

And to that major bundle transit Uranus and Jupiter will square it and so will solar arc Venus. To make things worse I will have a lunar eclipse on that point in december To me that is bad news. He thinks I will be traveling for work.. I will find out in the next few months.

posted October 17, 2010 07:30 AM           

One thing I am unsure of is that he mentioned that January , February in the next few months was going to be a very good time for me.

Progressed moon will be on my mc and north node and natal moon.

And to that major bundle transit Uranus and Jupiter will square it and so will solar arc Venus. To make things worse I will have a lunar eclipse on that point in december To me that is bad news. He thinks I will be traveling for work.. I will find out in the next few months.

posted October 17, 2010 10:39 AM           

he said amazing and wonderful things about your short term future...

if it was me i would be jumping of happiness right now.

stability in Life,in work and the coming of a man with whom you´ll consider marriage and be very happy???

Come on! Do focus on that,see the glass half full instead of seeing it half empty.

Children come when they choose to,,,it is not your choice,it´s the child´s soul that decide when to reeincarnate.

So give it a rest and relax.
it is when you "give up" and trust in whats ahead that the things start to happen.

posted October 17, 2010 12:02 PM         

Astrology shows us potentials and nothing is set in stone. Furthermore, a skilled astrologers' understanding and experience in astrology is relative.

Belgz, I wish you all the best.

posted October 17, 2010 12:02 PM         

Astrology shows us potentials and nothing is set in stone. Furthermore, a skilled astrologers' understanding and experience in astrology is relative.

Belgz, I wish you all the best.

posted October 17, 2010 12:28 PM         

Just wanted you to know that things happen to us, good or bad, and we don't really know why. All we can control is how we react to them.

Have hope and faith and joy in your life!
Blessings,
ADfly

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We justify ourselves each time we take a breath...

posted October 17, 2010 12:50 PM         

I'm glad you had a great consultation with him.

But I want to show you something that you're doing to yourself. You had a great consultation but then through your free will chose to focus on the subject of child birth and then you chose to worry and freak out about it.

To quote you:

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When I asked him about children he didn't really want to get into it and mentioned adoption. He said you always have adoption or other means to having children in this day and age but wasn't neccessarily saying I won't have children. Of course I started to become worried and he said what would an ancient astrologer say to you if your 5th house ruler is conjunct Pluto? I said pluto rules death, transformation etc and he said not to worry about that and that he doesn't see children in the next few years.

He mentioned some issues around conceiving. I know he didn't directly say it but I felt he meant that I will not have kids naturally.

He was so accurate that I can't help but think he is right.

Everything was so great and now I am so upset. He said I do not see you having children in the next few years. He mentioned 33 but I'm not sure if that was an example age or if he was saying around then is when it could happen.

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Noel wouldn't have mentioned age 33 unless he meant it, that he saw something going on in that area. As I was reading this part of your post I kept latching onto the fact that you were choosing to read between some imaginary lines of things he wasn't saying. So, what if you do have some difficulty conceiving? THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T. For example, I've had issues with fibroid tumors all of my adult life and the last surgery I had my doctor said that when I have a child it will have to be by C-section. I was just happy that I could have a child, I don't care how you get it out at this point. There are thousands of women who would love to be in my position, but they don't even have THAT option. So, be grateful for what you have.

And believe it or not, even though he was incredibly spot on, YOU STILL HAVE FREE WILL! I've gone through my own phases of not believing that I had free will after learning his master techniques, but Noel is also the first person to tell you (IN A GIANT STERN OPERA VOICE) that free will is is your gift from God. Don't squander it. This consultation may have shaken up your understanding of how free will works now that someone has read your celestial imprint so far, but no one said we would understand everything. If I've learned anything from you on this forum it's this. If Belgz wants something, she'll stop at nothing to get it.

SO STOP PANICKING OR I'LL THROW A GIANT HEART SHAPED BOOMERANG DOWN THERE TO KNOCK SOME SENSE INTO YOUR HEAD!!!

posted October 18, 2010 12:25 AM           

I will email him too. I want a definite answer I hate question marks. But now that I am thinking more rational I wonder if he meant to say it was stupid asking about kids because in general there are many ways to have them and without looking at my chart he could've just meant to say these days nothing is impossible but then I think why did he mention the ancient astrologers and what they would predict with Pluto conjunct the fifth house ruler?

I am confused and out of the whole thing I only cared about 2 questions. 1 a baby and 2 good health.. I didn't care about meeting someone or marriage etc.

posted October 18, 2010 01:07 AM         

60 years ago, as an astrologer, I would probably see the Solar Arc or transit of Pluto=Saturn and automatically predict death, destruction and loss ONLY! Today I can look at that measurement and the houses involved with that measurement and include executive power dynamics in your career or a loved one's career; I can suggest an extreme excercise regiment involving the process of breaking down muscles in order to build them back up again (which is what body builders and other athletes do on a seasonal basis); I can suggest large scale construction projects - all with that measurement.

Once again, 60 years ago we would have only known enough to predict gloom, doom, death and destruction with that aspect.

That's what Noel meant when he asked you what the ancient astrologers would have told you, Charlie Brown. He drums that into his students' heads. He is the last astrologer to predict doom and gloom. He's about positive thinking in astrology, almost to a fault. He's been criticized for it, but he'd tell you that with his Sun-Jupiter conjunction in Capricorn that he simply can't help it. That's the main reason I chose to study with him or else I wouldn't be able to tolerate astrology at all.