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Topic: Horary chart: Did she do it?
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Aya_and_baby
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posted October 20, 2010 05:04 PM
 
There was a high profile case here that just came to a close today. I'm not going to give out the details, because I just found out it hit the international media too and I want all of you to be able to look at this horary chart of when I asked myself this question, with an objective mind.The woman is found guilty of murder in the first degree, based on nothing but circumstantial evidence. She has always said that she was not guilty. My question was, just after I heard the jury's decision: "The jury finds her guilty, but is she?" I decided to draw a horary for that question, but the problem is that I have no idea how to read a horary, so objective insight would be interesting! 
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Quinnie
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posted October 20, 2010 06:09 PM
Yeah I think so. I'm not sure how to read horary charts but you are asking about another person so the 7th house ruler would signify her... I hope someone can confirm if this is right or not...
So in line with the 7th house ruler....
Pluto in the 8th house square moon in the 12th. She feels a victim herself and may indeed have been set up or is a victim of abuse perhaps?...but it seems more than likely that it was an erratic reaction or outburst that she perhaps has repressed, is in denial.... Mars in the 7th house too seems to indicate that she did the deed.But then I'm really unsure of my interpretation of this, would love to hear others... IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
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posted October 20, 2010 06:41 PM
I noticed the Mars conjunct DC too - and in Scorpio, no less... Although I don't believe the sign is important in Horary. (Not when it comes to planetary placements, I mean  )If it helps, I think she's capable of doing it, but I can't judge on whether she did it or not because I wasn't there. Being capable of doing something doesn't mean you did it, of course.
I'd love to know what house would be represented by the jury. I'm pretty sure she would be 7th house, because 1st house is the questioner, which is me. And I didn't ask the question for anyone else, so I'm definitely 1st house here.
Would there also be a house for the crime itself? ------------------
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Quinnie
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posted October 20, 2010 07:57 PM
hmmm not sure lol I was thinking 8th house, might be the 12th, I'm going to google!IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
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posted October 20, 2010 08:03 PM
The Judge is 10th house, but it was pretty clear in this case that the Jury made the decisions.------------------
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featherlightly
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posted October 20, 2010 08:06 PM
I think so.Since it's about someone else, I think you flip the chart so that the 7th house is the 1st house. She is Mars, traditional ruler of Scorpio, tightly conjunct the new first house. Her crime could be ruled by the new 8th or 12th house (not sure which, but both are Mercury). Mercury is at a critical degree, also in the 12th house... The only thing missing is her ruler and the crime's ruler are not making an aspect... but the chart does look suspect to me. I'm not a horary expert though. IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
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posted October 20, 2010 08:13 PM
If we flip the chart, the judge would be in Cancer (4th house --> 10th house flipped), with moon in her 6th house, would that mean that throughout the whole case, the judge - or the authorities - was very critical of her?Funnily enough, that was actually true in this case. Or should we still look at the 10th house in general? ------------------
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MyVirgoMask
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posted October 20, 2010 08:30 PM
I believe she may have. Yeah, the Mars in the 7th. She's indicated by the 7th. You've already flipped the chart by looking at her thru the 7th. How many more times will you keep flipping it  Plus you might want to turn this into a Regiomontanus house system. The Pladicus in this case looks way wonky, and you'd be using Regio for horary as well. Also, WHO did she commit the crime against? Was it her husband/lover? If you want specifics about the crime, then that is pertinent info. As of now it looks like the crime was against a close person. But again, change the house system. PS - I'd keep the judge out of this for now since you're just asking about the crime itself, not whether the court ruling was correct or not. Plain and simple questions are best for horary. IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
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posted October 20, 2010 08:46 PM
MVM, I'll do it in Regio  As for who the crime was committed against; she allegedly murdered a woman. They were all in a love triangle, or square even - the murdered woman also had a husband, but both women had the same lover. (edit: I forgot to mention, they were good friends as well, according to what was said on the news just after the crime happened) Horary in Regio coming up! I agree that the chart looked kind of wonky 
Edit: Here's the Regio horary chart!
Also, I agree it's best we keep it simple, but while I asked myself the question, I was kind of wondering if the jury was right to find her guilty. Still, the judge really had no say in it from the looks of it, so he's best kept out I think  ------------------
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