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DD
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posted October 21, 2010 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Just got the newsletter of cosmitec, concerning houseruler synastry.


"The most important points in any natal chart are the most personal ones: the Ascendant, the MC, the Moon, the Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars (let's disregard the Part of Fortune, Moon's Node and other sensitive points). The other planets and bodies are important too, but rather of secondary importance because they are slower moving and generational planets/bodies.

When doing a chart comparison with the rulerships, we are looking for all EXACT aspects (orb less than 1°) that any planet, body or point makes with the PERSONAL points and planets of the other person, inclusive the house cusps.

We use the Topocentric house system (that can be used all over the world, unlike other house systems).

Write the aspects down and the more the aspects are exact, the more they will work out. EXACT aspects (orb 0°00' - 0°01') will manifest profoundly between both partners as long as they are or come together!

Whenever we put both persons together, the exact aspects (and midpoints) will mark the relationship in a very deterministic way.

If a planet of person A squares the Ascendant of person B, look at what house that planet in the natal chart of person A rules. If the planet rules, for example, the 5th house of children, it will be the children of person A that affect person B in a challenging way. This may eventually result in separation, caused by the children, if other separative configurations can be found. If person A has no child(ren), this may denote that both partners will just have NO children! This can be a problem if one of the partners really wants children!

If a planet in the natal chart of person A exactly squares a planet in the natal chart of partner B AND if the planet in the chart of person A rules the 12th house while the planet in the natal chart of person B rules the 5th house of children, we almost know for sure that there will be NO children between both partners in case other configurations confirm this trend. Again, if one of or both partners really want(s) children, this is a huge issue. With the help of these astrological rules you know that both people are NOT suited to have children in a natural way -- how much they love each other.

Often, a couple wonders why they cannot conceive, though there are no medical indications of infertility or whatever in both persons.

Our statement and absolute conviction is this: when we find the aforementioned aspect between both rulers in a chart comparison, you both will just NEVER have any children naturally because some energies prevent and prohibit it.

Finding another person C that has no adverse aspects to the 5th house cusp or the ruler of the 5th house will do the trick and almost miraculously, person B will get pregnant!

No need to manipulate or force things or take drugs!!

In the same way, people really can "heal" each other (Jupiter of partner A in a harmonious aspect to the ruler of the 1st house, Ascendant or the Sun in the natal chart of partner B for example) or make each other sick (Saturn of partner A square the ruler of the 6th house or the ruler of the 1st house, Sun or Ascendant of partner B, for example).

People can enhance each other's lives (Jupiter of partner A in an exact harmonious aspect to the MC, ruler of the Ascendant or MC of partner B), or destroy it (too many configurations actually...).

That's why, for example, partner A will always have financial issues with partner B, but never with partner C or D (because, for example, Saturn in the natal chart of partner A might square the 2nd house cusp or ruler of the 2nd house in the natal chart of partner B, but not with any rulers or house cusps in the natal charts of partner C or D).

That's also why you will always encounter (traffic) accidents with someone else who has his Mars square your own natal 3rd house or ruler of the 3rd house...

It really pays to take into account the rulerships in synastry for additional and highly important information that is missed otherwise.

The energies reflected by the planets and rulerships found in the natal charts of people influence each other, often unknowingly, and bring about life events that mark our lives for good or bad. Astrology can decode, decipher, analyze or translate these energies.

That's why it is SOOOO important to know whom we meet or get a relationship with.

With some people you will always make the same mistakes that you never make with others. Some people will make you rich, some healthy, some a victim...

However, you will NEVER EVER find a partner who is just and only building harmonious aspects to your planets, house cusps or rulerships. Every person brings some challenges with him or her and it's up to you to decide whether or not you can live and cope with it ALL (the good and the "bad" the other brings). Astrology can only help and warn you and let you know how bad the challenges might or will be.


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Though I don`t agree with the strong determinism in there, I think it would be very interesting, indeed, to check for the tightest houseruler aspects to planets, points or other houserulers.

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posted October 21, 2010 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
So I am trying that out:

All aspects at 1°00
(I am using Placidus, the differences are not that big between them, at least not where I live):


his Sun conjunct my Sun 1°01 (yeah I know out of orb, but come on!)

his Sun trine my 9th cusp 0°03
his Sun sextiles my 3rd cusp 0°03


his Mercury sextile my Pluto -17
his Mercury conjunct my Neptune - 35
his Mercury conjunct my NN --48

his Mars square my NN -55
his Mars opposite my Jupiter -08

his Jupiter square my NN -00
his Jupiter square my Neptune -13

his Saturn square my Sun -46

his Neptune trine my Chiron - 24

his NN sextile my Uranus -02
his NN trine my 5th cusp -13
his NN sextile my 11th cusp -13

his 3rd cusp trine Pluto -16
his 9th cusp sextile Pluto -16

his 12th cusp trine Pluto -38
his 6th cusp sextile Pluto -38


his Sun conjunct my 9th house ruler
his 6th house ruler conjunct my Sun
his 6th houseruler conjunct my 9th house ruler

his 6th house ruler trine my 9th cusp
his 6th house ruler sextile my 9th cusp

his Mercury sextile my 11th ruler
his Mercury sextile my 12th house ruler
his 4th ruler sextile my Pluto
his 7th ruler sextile my Pluto
his 4th ruler sextile my 11t and 12th ruler
his 7th ruler sextile my 11t and 12th ruler

his Mercury conjunct my 3rd ruler
his 4th ruler conjunct my Neptune
his 7th ruler conjunct my Neptune
his 7th ruler conjunct my 3rd ruler

his 4th ruler conjunct my NN
his 7th ruler conjunct my NN

his 1st ruler square my NN
his 1st ruler opposite my 1st ruler

his 10th ruler square my NN
his Jupiter square my 3rd ruler
his 10th ruler square my Neptune
his 10th ruler square my 3rd ruler

his Saturn square my 9th ruler
his 11th ruler square my Sun
his 11th ruler square my 9th ruler

his 1st ruler trine my Chiron

his NN sextile my 11t ruler

his 3rd cusp trine my 11t ruler
his 3rd cusp trine my 12th ruler

his 12t cusp trine my 11th ruler
his 12th cusp trine my 12th ruler

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Ami Anne
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posted October 21, 2010 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, DD

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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Lara
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posted October 21, 2010 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Really interesting DD
I will look at mine too.

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posted October 21, 2010 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I was really itching to include his Moon conjunct my Sun and Mercury, especially since this involves his 5th and my 7th house ruler, but probably the exact aspects are really more dominant (the Moon-Sun- one is a bit over 2 degrees).


Probably we should also include the midpoints under 1 degree, to get a view on the core issues.

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posted October 21, 2010 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
midpoints under 30 minutes (only, conjunction, opp and square)

my Sun= his Pluto / NN -27

my Mercury= his Venus/Uranus -23
my Mercury=his Saturn/ASC -03

my NN= his Mars/Jupiter -28
my NN=his Sun/Uranus -01
my NN=his MC/URanus -14
(I guess he never met someone like me before )


my ASC = his Uranus/Neptune -05

my Jupiter= his Moon/Uranus -11

my Saturn = his Jupiter/Uranus -10
my Saturn= his Mars/Uranus -18

my Uranus = his Mercury / ASC -02

my Neptune = his Sun/Uranus -15
my Neptune - his MC/URanus -28

my Pluto = his Saturn / Pluto -05

my 2nd/8th cusp= his Uranus / NN -03
my 2nd/8th cusp= his Moon / Venus -05

my 5th/11th cusp= his Mercury / ASC -16

my 12th / 6th cusp= his Neptune / Pluto -08

his Sun = my Saturn / ASC -02

his Moon = my Saturn / Neptune -09
his Moon= my Saturn / NN -02

his Mercury = my Saturn / uranus -13

his Venus= my Jupiter / Neptune -20
his Venus = my Jupiter / NN -14

his Mars = my Moon / MC -03

his Jupiter = my Neptune / NN -06

his Saturn= my Saturn / ASC -17

his Neptune= my Venus/Mars -12

his Pluto=My Moon/Mercury -18
his Pluto=my Sun/Moon -08

his ASC= my Venus/Neptune -13
his ASC = my Jupiter/MC -09
his ASC = my Venus/NN -06

his MC=my Saturn / ASC -24

his 3rd/9th cusp=my Saturn/Uranus -20
his 3rd(9th= my Neptune / ASC -20
his 3rd/9th cusp= my NN/ASC -13

his 12th / 6th cusp= my Venus/Jupiter -03

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Lara
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posted October 21, 2010 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
His sun cj my sun 0'56a
his sun cj my mercury 0'55s
his moon cj my IC 0'52
my mercury cj his sun 0'46a
his mercury cj my mercury 1'03 (does it count?!)
his venus sextile my venus 0'01a
his mars cj my venus 0'41a
his NN quintile my venus 0'15s
his venus square my pluto 1'14
his neptune cj my IC 1'09
his chiron sextile my MC 0'22"
his chiron trine my IC 0'22"
his chiron cj my 8th cusp 0'49"
my chiron trine his 12th cusp 0'39"
my chiron sextile his 6th cusp 0'34"

his AC cj my AC 0'50a
His MC cj my MC 1'12a

my NN quincunx his 2nd cusp 0'34"
my NN quincunx his IC/4th cusp 0'20"

his AC ruler cj my AC ruler 0'56a
his AC ruler cj my 2nd/11th ruler 0'55"
his 2nd/11th ruler cj my AC ruler 0'46"
his 2nd/11th ruler cj my 2nd/11th ruler 1'05"
his DC ruler trine my AC ruler 0'18"
his 9th ruler cj my 3rd/MC ruler 0'41
his MC ruler sextile my MC ruler 0'01"

WOW DD look at your midpoints! omg!! Amazing
I forgot to do midpoints - will look at them later.

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posted October 21, 2010 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

you think these midpoints are amazing? Why?
I was actually thinking they are a bit disappointing.


Anyway, WOW at your synastry, look at what tight important aspects you have!
And checking the rulerships it does not surprise me that there is an aspect between DC and ASC-ruler. And the MC-connections show the "purposeness" of that direction. Wonderful.

That DW of ASC with 2nd and 11th house ruler is interesting. How do you interprete it?

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posted October 21, 2010 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I just think you have so many midpoint hits! I've never seen so many - so there is a powerful yet subtle pulse to your synastry through the midpoints which is full of fate and stretching boundaries with the pluto/saturn/neptune/uranus. Thats how l see it anyway. I think thats amazing because its constructive and yet not enough to grate, yet it evolves you through this constant 'pulse'. I see midpoints are a pulse or constant flow.
How do you see midpoints?

yes its wonderful and there is a real sense of purpose, its true. It was there right from the beginning.
I don't know how l see the AC aspecting the 2nd/11th DW. I guess something along the lines of us being able to be ourselves, have a great friendship and this increases our self worth and we probably feel sharing possessions and as our MC's are ruled by taurus l guess that we will make money by enjoying working together? How do you see it?

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posted October 21, 2010 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

I was thinking everyone would have so many midpoint hits, but am not so sure anymore now.

"so there is a powerful yet subtle pulse"
I like that metaphor of a pulse. Very much so.

" to your synastry through the midpoints which is full of fate and stretching boundaries with the pluto/saturn/neptune/uranus."
Yes, it really feels like through meeting him I have been stretching my boundaries quite a bit.

"How do you see midpoints? "
I see them like a synastric aspect just for one person and triggered by the other person.

Example:


his ASC= my Venus/Neptune

It`s like I am experiencing a Venus-Neptune aspect, very gently romantic and spiritual, everytime I am faced with his ASC.
Actually if I think about him the attraction doesn`t really feel that insistent, it is only when I am in close proximity, that I feel inexplicably drawn to him. But in a very soft way.
Makes sense since ASC is our anchor in the physical I think?


My ASC = his Uranus/Neptune is an interesting one, too. Does he feel weirded out by me?

"us being able to be ourselves, have a great friendship and this increases our self worth and we probably feel sharing possessions and as our MC's are ruled by taurus l guess that we will make money by enjoying working together?"
Yes, that makes sense I think.

I`d think that there would be a strong theme of friendship as well as sharing of ideals (11th house), and that your shared ideals somehow will become very public, maybe as part of a common work?

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posted October 21, 2010 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
my sun = his mars/MC
my sun = his sun/mercury
my sun = his sun/jupiter
my mercury = his mars/MC
my mercury = his sun/mercury
my mercury = his sun/jupiter
my mars = his venus/mars
my saturn = his chiron/MC
my NN = his chiron/MC

my AC ruler = his mars/MC, sun/mercury. sun/jupiter
my 2nd/11th ruler = his mars/MC, sun/mercury. sun/jupiter
my 9th ruler = his venus/mars

my 3rd cusp = his moon/pluto
my 3rd cusp = his neptune/pluto
my 4th cusp/IC - his neptune/moon
my 11th = his mars/AC
my 12th = his venus/pluto LOL!
my 12th = his NN/AC


his sun = my sun/mercury 0'00'
his sun = my venus/mars
his sun = my moon/mars
his mercury = my venus/mars
his mercury = my sun/mercury
his mercury - my moon/mars
his mercury = my moon/MC
his venus = my jupiter/NN
his venus = my jupiter/saturn
his mars = my moon/venus
his jupiter = my saturn/MC
his jupiter = my NN/MC
his NN = my mercury/AC
his NN = my pluto/NN
his NN = my sun/AC

his AC ruler = my sun/mercury 0'00, venus/mars, moon/mars
his 2nd/11th ruler = my venus/mars, sun/mercury, moon/mars, moon/MC
his 3rd/10th ruler = my jupiter/NN, jupiter/saturn
his 9th ruler = my moon/venus
his 5th ruler = my NN/MC

his 3rd cusp = my neptune/pluto
his 9th = my moon/venus
his MC = my mars/MC
his 11th = my mercury/AC

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posted October 21, 2010 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
And you thought I were having many hits. lol

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posted October 21, 2010 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL
I know! Well l did... l don't know what happened but they just add up don't they?!

Yes, a pulse is the only way l can bring myself to understand midpoints so i'm glad you like it as a metaphor. That pluto/saturn/neptune/uranus cluster in your midpoints really is awesome you know? It's so ground-breaking!

So with your AC - his uranus/neptune... would that also mean that through your 'self' expression, it encourages or allows him to express or feel his dreamy imaginative side and bring some eccentricity and originality into his world with you that he couldn't with anyone else?

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posted October 21, 2010 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it is quite some work to list all the midpoints, even if we stick to only 30 minutes of orb. But I think it`s worth it.

Yes, I would agree with your interpretation. My physical Self probably brings him in tough with some spiritual imaginative things, a little bit weird, a little bit psychic maybe.

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