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Topic: ORBM - my AKASHI Return
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 02:10 PM
Hi ORBM, would you have a look at my AKASHI Return and tell me what you see in there? It does look pretty significant to me.
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 04:16 PM
wow DD sorry to butt in but your IC on 29th, valentine on 0' cancer, venus cj atlantis and that 5th house with ruler venus. How did you work out your return for an asteroid? I didn't even know that was possible! IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 755 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 05:33 PM
Two things that stick out to me DD, because of your connection to Sumeria... Look at how Akash is conjunct your IC and close to Ishtar and it opposes Innan...these are Energies that you are apart of Etherically so I would say that this return allows a connection for you to those Energies by really your mind and allowing your true thoughts to filter through and this is shared with the public we will see it you need only go with it.Once more its squaring the Asc...meaning to me this is something you will have difficulty admitting to those around you, but it is time for you to start really believing in your Starseed Heritage and embracing it, to light the way for others. How will the migration back to Spirit began unless someone picks up the torch. You must sense this deep down...because your Moon is trining this though it is wide...its still the Moon allowing it a great Orb of Energy..and so I think there is a link to this knowledge that you will just feel...if that makes any sense...where is your Pysche asteroid....and your DNA, Spirit and Alma. Also look at Atlantis with Venus...it makes perfect sense to me...and with such a full house it appears a romantic relationship could be in play too...a spiritual and intellectual one with your Mars sextiling you will have drive to pursue this course when you havent in the past, as the Scorpio Energy imparts endurance and preserverence and with the NN with Chiron this will all serve as a source of greating healing on the path but with Pluto in the 7th house there will be a transformation in your relationships committed ones...particularly your family... maybe be a good time to let go of your fears its close to the Moon giving it a purifying and transformative affect and what better place that the 8th house to insure it...and learn that there path is in there own hands..you cannot control it so why worry..it only bounds you more to your Karma by your thinking you can be the 'doer" This feels powerful DD...all I can say is based on this chart Spirit says..."It is time" IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 05:33 PM
Lara,I looked up the exact degrees, minutes AND seconds of that asteroid in my chart. In this case: 3 degrees 48 minutes 40 seconds in Virgo, and adjusted the transiting chart so long until AKASH was at exactly that position again. That helped me find the ASC! How would you interprete these positions you mentioned? Actually I have checked some more asteroids and get this:
INTERKOSMOS is conjunct SPIRIT on 7 Gemini, which is the EXACT degree of my natal DESC.
SAMAAN in this chart is exactly conjunct my natal Sun/Moon-mp and Antivertex! Opposing Eros.
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 05:57 PM
Well i don't know if this will make sense cos i'm just going to write what i see and sense.Valentine in critical degree of CANCER. Moon in 8th. This totally says to me that your 'love/valentine' time is now pushing or aiding your emotions/moon to let go and release once and for all your past doubts, fears etc. The 1st thing that struck me about this chart as venus/atlantis cj. Venus rules 12th and 5th! So something hidden with come to light through an atlantean link and literally set your heart free. 6th ruler pluto (for sake of an argument!) and pluto planet of transforming you from inner chains to a dove. chiron cj NN in 9th. Through this higher awareness house comes healing of your present life, karma and your destiny is unlocked. Where is karma in all of this please? BTW your AC of 2' gemini is cj my soulie  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 06:01 PM
Thank you, ORBM,"It is time" This were the exact words I kept hearing when first looking at that chart. Thanks for confirming it for me.  "Look at how Akash is conjunct your IC" Well, I picked the equal system, so the 4th house is not the IC. IC is on 29 Cancer. But you made me pay attention to the sabian of the IC; as this is the root and soul of a chart. In this case my etherical soul for this time sais: "A Daughter of The American Revolution" "is shared with the public we will see it you need only go with it." It makes sense, as the INTERKOSMOS and SPIRIT conjunction on 7 Gemini in 1st house sais: Aroused Strikers Surround A Factory
Doesn`t sound like a quiet time, does it? 
Very interesting though that it falls exactly onto my natal DESC. "meaning to me this is something you will have difficulty admitting to those around you," Makes MUCHO sense if you again look at the sabian. The Garden Of The Tuileries In Paris This Sabian tells much about the "fitting in, being appropriate socially", and this isn`t possible anymore. WEll, it has never been, really. lol
"really believing in your Starseed Heritage " Actually I am an interdimensional walker/ jumper(don`t ask me what that is, that is what I was being told some days ago). This is why I am having a Stellium of CIRCE, SEKHMET and REIKI on 27 Sagittarius An Old Bridge Over A Beautiful Stream Is Still In Constant Use "How will the migration back to Spirit began unless someone picks up the torch." Interesting choice of words, considering the Sabian (yes I am obsessed tonight with Sabians) of my name in my chart: "A Symbolical Battle Between "Swords" And "Torches" "You must sense this deep down" Of course I do. If I didn`t sense it, I would never had the idea to look at my Akashi return NOW and not 2 years ago when it began!
"still the Moon allowing it a great Orb of Energy" This Moon is triggering very important things in my chart. Venus on 6 Cap Isis on 8 Cap Osiris on 7 Cap Spirit on 10 Cap
"where is your Pysche asteroid....and your DNA, Spirit and Alma." Psyche is on 24 Aqua DNA on 20 Libra Spirit on 10 Cap Alma on 6 Aries (conjunct IC, Aura, Magion btw) "t makes perfect sense to me...and with such a full house it appears a romantic relationship could be in play too" Yes, I was thinking so, too. I have always been thinking about how Valentine is trine Angel and Mars, and the Sabian of Valentine is "On A Ship The Sailors Lower An Old Flag And Raise A New One" There seems to be a change indicated. But what could that change be? "you cannot control it so why worry" Yes, that actually IS a problem I have. Letting go of control. I know that all that is needed is letting go, I don`t have to do anything actively, this would be counterproductive. But that "letting go" part is not that easy for me. At least my mind tries to convince me of that. Of course I know from a spiritual perspective that it IS easy.
"Karma by your thinking you can be the 'doer"" I know I am not the doer. Interestingly this change in my attitude happened around the time of the Akashi Return exactly. I never saw me as a doer actually, BUT, maybe as a "preventer", of course this is an illusion.
"This feels powerful DD" I feel so, too. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 06:08 PM
quote: interdimensional walker/ jumper
wow! I can relate to that. I do that too It's when your mind and soul can hop dimensions. Imagine a radio station that you turn the knob to change the channel. You are the knob and you can be any channel you like  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 06:08 PM
"Valentine in critical degree of CANCER. " I thought the 29 degree are critical?I actually liked that one, my first thought was that it signals the beginning of something new. "Moon in 8th. This totally says to me that your 'love/valentine' time is now pushing or aiding your emotions/moon to let go and release once and for all your past doubts, fears etc." Yes, that makes ABSOLUTE sense to me. "The 1st thing that struck me about this chart as venus/atlantis cj. Venus rules 12th and 5th! So something hidden with come to light through an atlantean link and literally set your heart free." This is actually why I am working through all these past life memories and connections, beginning with Atlantis. The purpose of it is not just curiousity, but healing. And re-gaining awareness of all that I have once known / experienced. Of cousre it is still all there engraved in my soul`s memory, but I feel the need to bring it to awareness / consciousness.
"Where is karma in all of this please? " In that chart?
Karma is on 11 Virgo Sabian:After The Wedding, The Groom Snatches The Veil Away From His Bride conjunct my Persephone on 13 Virgo. trine my Spirit and Guinevere on 10 Cap but also squares my nodal axis on 10 Sag - Gemini. "BTW your AC of 2' gemini is cj my soulie "  IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 06:15 PM
29th and 0' are both critical especially on a cardinal sign  So if we use the 3' orb rule and only trad planets, is karma unaspected?!! By unaspected l mean... not kicking into the chart... neutral, no power, negated!  Yes, the re-gaining of awareness from that which is hidden. I was looking for that word 'awareness' and it eluded me 
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 06:18 PM
Well, I think Karma is trine Jupiter. With a bit more than 2 degree orb.So it is not unaspected, but not really prominent either. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 07:05 PM
that's a good thing. Well i'm glad that l could be of some help DD as you are always so helpful toward me. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 07:08 PM
Wait a minute!! Karma is 4th (home... coming home?) in virgo, chart ruler! Mercury cj sun/eros and trine NN.Seems like quite a lot of things are coming to light and linked to your 'path'. Shine that sun's warm rays on your life DD  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 23, 2010 07:30 PM
Thank you so much, Lara.  It helps me a lot, You and ORBM putting in words what I feel inside, but maybe do not dare to believe, in case I might have drawn the wrong conclusion. And yes, you are right, this Mercury seems to be important. It is additionally the DESC-ruler in my natal chart.
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venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 807 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 12:47 PM
DD, Have you looked at the Akashi placement in your composite with him? It might shed some light on the past life karma to be balanced.I just looked at our composite chart. Akashi conjuncts Ceres at 21 Gem in the 5th house. It forms a Grand Trine with Chiron and Cupid. That's how we heal the past life wound, with Ceres and Cupid. Sabian says: 22 Gem - An old-fashioned harvest home festival is at its height with flashing dancing couples crowding the barn floor. Happiness, warmth, celebrating successful achievement, bringing in the harvest, efforts have come to a fruitful conclusion, and now its time to gather with others to celebrate, celebrating a job well done, the barn is crowded showing many coming together to celebrate your success, your achievement, to share in your joy.
Edit: Oh DD...look at the Sabians for our own individual Akashi placements...! My Akashi, Pis 22 - A child who is strange to rural life has taken violent fancy to a little white lamb and a Chinese servant smiles. His Akashi, Vir 24 - A large book for children is open at a colored page; here Mary with her yellow curls leads an immaculate white lamb. And then, of course, our Composite Karma is also: Vir 24 - A large book for children is open at a colored page; here Mary with her yellow curls leads an immaculate white lamb. Wow. I have to use Lara's great word for this..."Gobsmacked". 
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 12:59 PM
you are welcome DD  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 01:54 PM
VIG,"Have you looked at the Akashi placement in your composite with him?" Which "him"? There might be quite a few.  "Akashi conjuncts Ceres at 21 Gem in the 5th house. It forms a Grand Trine with Chiron and Cupid." That is so beautiful. both the Grand trine as well as the houseplacement and the Sabian.  "That's how we heal the past life wound, with Ceres and Cupid." So you think Akashi represents past life stuff? Or is it something like the "overall script"? "My Akashi, Pis 22 - A child who is strange to rural life has taken violent fancy to a little white lamb and a Chinese servant smiles.
His Akashi, Vir 24 - A large book for children is open at a colored page; here Mary with her yellow curls leads an immaculate white lamb." Yes, I have always wondered about these Sabians, too. In both Mary and the white lamb appears. I know that the 24 degree of Karma in your composite made IQ say that you are twinflames. I think I remember he wrote that that Sabian (on top of the other things) sealed it for him. Now, I have also been wondering if 22 Pisces might have a relevance, too, since Mary and the white lamb turn up in both of them. Just wondering. I have been looking at the composite with past life guy: AKASH is at 20 Cancer. Sabian is: Venetian Gondoliers Giving A Serenade How sweet!  We also have an exact EROS-PSYCHE-trine, and this AKASH is widely aspecting this.
opposes PSYCHE at 3 degrees sextiles EROS at 3 degrees sextiles CUPIDO at 2 degrees Comparing it to our natal charts,
composite AKASHI conjuncts my EROS, Vertex, Pan opposes my Sun/Moon-mp conjuncts his LUST and APHRODITE BTW have you checked your HELIO composite already? I jsut did a short check for a friend of mine and her twin. And they have an exact JUNO-Pluto-conjunction closely trine EROS there (in their tropical synastry they also have an exact VALENTINE-Pluto-conjunction). The strength of helios seems to vary greatly. I mean, often there is not all that much happening "up there", but IF it is, it has me going: usually.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 02:06 PM
Oh Jeez, I just put AKASHI in the helio composite with past life guy. There is STILL an EROS-PSYCHE-trine going on with EROS being on my tropical AKASHI and PSYCHE being trine his tropical AKASHI.
AKASHI itself is on 13 Cancer A Hand With A Prominent Thumb Is Held Out For Study
PLUTO is conjunct VALENTINE on 13 and 11 Libra
opposing VENUS on 13 Aries A T-square of Pluto/Valentine-Venus-Akashi!
Additionally there is a Mars-Neptune-KNIGHT-conjunction all on 14 Sagittarius! Sabian is The Great Pyramid And The Sphinx
Of course it means, that this Egyptian themed Mars-Neptune-Knight stellium eases the tension of the t-square.
It also means that there is a Mars-Venus and Venus-Neptune-trine.  AKASHI itself trines PHOLUS and AURA in Pisces
Funnily there is not only an Eros-Psyche-trine, but Psyche is also conjunct Amor.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 02:19 PM
Wow, ViG,look at your helio composite. Pluto on Regulus. see that Valentine-Isis-conjunction sextile Pluto (I think Isis draws Valentine in) and trine Juno. I mean EXACTLY trine Juno (Valentine that is)? See how that helio Valentine-Isis-conjunction falls into his chart?
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venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 807 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 04:52 PM
DD, I can't remember the last time I looked out our Helio chart. What asteroids did you use? I always add Valentine. What else beside Isis?IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 04:57 PM
I was lazy and only put in AKASHI, ISIS, OSIRIS and VALENTINE and JUNO I think. There is a strong binding theme here, too. With AKASHI being conjunct your tropical Saturn. And in the helio itself OSIRIS is conjunct Saturn.
I like that ISIS conjunct VALENTINE and OSIRIS conjunct Saturn. Love and perseverance.  IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5465 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 04:59 PM
how long is the orbit for AKASHI, DD? i'm assuming you must have figured this out by calculating its return?IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:03 PM
Intresting that VIG and I both have akarshi cj Saturn and our beloveds names cj our valentines. I wonder if they are linked.VIG, does your akarshi/Saturn cj aspect your valentine cos mine squares it? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:13 PM
Cool finding, Lara.  I checked my friend`s chart. Her AKASHA conjunct her Saturn, too. Her Twin`s AKASHA squares his Saturn exactly. I feel seriously left out here. lol
The only aspect between AKASHI and Saturn in my chart is a semisquare.  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:16 PM
KATA,5 years. Like Psyche. It is a mainbelt asteroid, between Mars and Jupiter I believe. IP: Logged |
venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 807 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 05:17 PM
DD, I just looked at the helio (tropical) composite.Isis 1.24 Can Valentine 4.39 Can Juno 4.54 Sco So the composite Isis/Valentine conjunct the IC/Sun in his natal chart at 3.27/3.38 Can. His Venus is close at 28.56 Gem. His natal Karma is at 6.14 Sco, conjunct the composite Juno. Also, Karma in my Helio chart is 4.11 Can. Looks like its all there together, doesn't it? The Universe's Divine Plan for us?  IP: Logged |