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Topic: Venus Retrograde- culmination of an earlier retrograde?
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rajin
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Registered: Jul 2009
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posted October 24, 2010 10:10 PM
 
I have a Scorpio Sun. I was looking at Venus Retrograde years and found that I had first contacted this guy during the 2002 Venus retrograde. We had just established contact and had politely ended it in a week's time due to geography.
He came back again in Feb 2003.Then broke up with me in Jan 2004.Unfortunately, I fell hard for him and have been stuck on him since 2002.
He came back again in Oct 2008, had not gained any emotional maturity so I broke up with him in 2009.
Now he is trying to make polite conversation , came back 4th Oct this year just before the Retrograde.
Do you think we will be able to work this relationship out successfully during this 2nd round of Venus Retrograde? Will we be able to finally be a couple or is the relationship doomed due to it beginning during a retrograde?IP: Logged |
Deux*Antares
Knowflake Posts: 838
From: I am where I am and it's enough.
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 25, 2010 01:25 AM
Pardon my bluntness (Scorpio sun here with Mercury in Sagittarius). I've read your previous posts about this guy, and I actually typed out a long reply to your "Why is she undergoing lessons in pain?" thread but didn't post it because I wanted to edit and add some more thoughts. It's only now that I realize you've been in this seesaw thing with him for almost 8 years, which I understand completely... knowing that Scorpions have the annoying incapacity to let go quickly... and because I was once in your shoes.Screw the charts, screw transits, progressions and everything else. Those are only maps, static blue prints -- they only show potentials, while reality is staring you in the face. So put all your questions aside and just concentrate on the most important one: are you prepared to waste another 8 years on him? (In my opinion, he isn't worth even 8 seconds.) *I wanted to sound like a total b!tch, so you will be forced to state all the reasons why you need to be with him, all the reasons why hanging on to this relationship is good for you, and why he is the only thing that's missing in your life. In short, you should give yourself a complete justification as to why this man deserves a great part of your time, energy and life. IP: Logged |
rajin
Knowflake Posts: 287
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posted October 25, 2010 07:00 AM
Hi Deux,
Thanks for the reply. From one Scorpio to another:-). I completley understand what you are saying and I have reasoned with myself and berated myself over it. Told myself that I am a complete fool to waste so many years for a man who is so scared of any emotional committment that he runs at the first sign of total pure love.
The only problem is that no matter what my head says my heart still loves him, completely and irrevocably. I can list all the reasons to hate him and they all pale when he calls up 2 weeks after he promised to call up.It could be stupid Scorpio stubborness to give up on a lost cause, don't know.
The strange part is that he is the only one who keeps coming back to my life. He is unsure of what he wants but he still comes back.
But Deux, I have been trying to break this cycle away. I am tired now, and heart weary. The constant battering on my emotions is too much to take now for me.I am away from home, came to another country for him, and live some kind of a half existence. Keep wishing that I would not wake up to see the dawn of another day. If I had the guts I would end my life but I have parents who love me and I would never do that to them.
I just don't know how to end this misery.And how to stop loving him. I dont want any of his material trappings just him to love me the way I do.IP: Logged |
mir
Knowflake Posts: 351
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Registered: May 2009
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posted October 26, 2010 08:03 AM
Rajin 
For lack of better words..
I just wanted to give you a part of the answer.. maybe you already know this but well, it couldn't be wrong to read it again.. 
Oct. 8th – Nov. 18th. Venus retro stimulates encounters with past relationships, and since it’s in Scorp, there’s always some degree of secretive, murky, subconscious stuff involved. (If you like that sort of thing.)
On the subject of love, past lovers may re-appear and some relationships may end. With Venus in Scorpio for most of the retrograde cycle, we may question how much intensity, passion, and intimacy we have in our relationships (Venus is retrograde in Scorpio from October 8th to November 7th). With Venus in Libra for part of the cycle, the subject of equality and fairness may be prominent (Venus is retrograde in Libra from November 7th to 18th). Old friends and lovers may re-appear, perhaps complicating current relationships. We are called upon to deal with relationship issues from the past during this Venus retrograde cycle. Events occur that seem fated or pre-destined. It can be a real challenge getting close to a lover during this period of time. Unorthodox, experimental, and non-intimate relationships may be favored. Affection is difficult to express in a natural or spontaneous manner. We might find others are lacking in sincerity or genuineness in their expressions of social niceties. (We may be inclined to do the same!). Venus is in its detriment in the sign of Scorpio (Scorpio is opposite Taurus, which is one of the signs that Venus rules). Some of the more negative associations of Venus in Scorpio may be particularly prominent and/or hard to take, and these include jealousy, manipulation, and control. Those who have Scorpio strong in their charts may be more introspective, distant, or hard to reach during this cycle. They may not be in a very favorable light just for the time being. Relationships that have been especially challenging may come to an end during this cycle. However, strong relationships will survive it, even if there are a few bumps and bruises along the way. For singles, this is a good time for “eyes wide open” or experimental dating. It is not a time when people recognize the need for another person to “complete” them. Some people may be questioning whether they are with partners who actually fulfill them. This period is good for re-evaluating our relationship needs; but, again, major love decisions are best saved for after the cycle ends in November and perhaps beyond the shadow phase as well. Our perceptions may be skewed and we can come out of the retrograde cycle with regret if we have acted hastily, as the tendency to change our minds later is strong. http://susiemadrak.com/?p=7889 IP: Logged |
rajin
Knowflake Posts: 287
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Registered: Jul 2009
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posted October 26, 2010 09:40 AM
Thanks Mir,
I know what you and Deux are trying to tell me is that I should let this man go and not give him another moment's thought. I just can't figure out how. the head understands the logic and the unfairness of his treatment, but the heart is still not keeping pace with my head.
Most of all, if it is bad karma for which I am paying, how much evil did I really do to be battered this way emotionally? Have I not paid for whatever mistakes I made( though I don't know when)several times over?
I am so tired now, just can't seem to make myself rev up and start all over again.
My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer, my aunt with lung cancer, I lost an uncle and one aunt has rapidly progressing dementia.My emotions have been taking hits everywhere and i can't take anymore pain now.IP: Logged |
mir
Knowflake Posts: 351
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Registered: May 2009
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posted October 26, 2010 01:25 PM
Ow Raijn... no no no.. this isn't really my intention to say; "LET GO!".. you are going through so much pain right now and forcing yourself to *LET GO* isn't the way, I totally understand!
I don't believe in bad *karma* for you/for myself/for others.. (I know I'm an exception)Wow.. I just feel with you... don't know what to say to make you feel better I guess..  I'm also very fixed (Sun-Leo & Moon-Scorp) and I went through much pain/hell myself (also cancer in family and a love-life that sucked at the same time) so I can understand you so well....
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rajin
Knowflake Posts: 287
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Registered: Jul 2009
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posted October 26, 2010 02:40 PM
Hey Mir,
thanks for your support. I am just feeling low and I don't know how to resolve anything. Plus I love the guy so much that it just hurts.How did you get through your tough phase?
Will I ever be able to convince him abt my love?
I just don't know how to face the pain.IP: Logged | |
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