posted October 26, 2010 10:45 AM         

Holy cow! YOu've got Prometheus conj. your NN and it's pretty close to your ASC!!!

Lucifer sq your NN/Prometheus!!!

Tesla's sitting on your MC and sq your Chiron

Someone more practiced than I is going to have to break this down. Holy Freaking Poo!

This is heavy heavy.

Somehow this means you are meant to bring out some gift of the gods...

Will somehow pick at your wounds though, however, helping others to integrate that gift in service will help YOU heal!

Wow. Just wow.

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We justify ourselves each time we take a breath...

posted October 26, 2010 11:12 AM         

and wasn't it prometheus who was spared by chiron giving up his immortality????yes i'm sure it was...so your chiron "wound" is somehow the answer to your "vexations" i would think! that is good news!!!

posted October 26, 2010 03:20 PM         

I think of Tesla when I think Of Prometheus and Lucifer.

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The Magic of Nikola Tesla -- Part II
Starting in 1992, I’d begun filling up several thick folders with names and facts, leads and historical data springing from Tesla’s original research. I’d run into crackpots but also serious scientists and inventors who’d tried to follow up on his ideas. I’d found a book containing 100 free energy patents, with elaborate drawings and designs about as assortment of small machines that produced more energy than they consumed -- what Tesla had discovered nearly a century earlier with his own patents on "radiant energy" and the "magnification of energy." I’d driven to Colorado Springs and retraced the steps Tesla had taken nearly a century ago when conducting his wireless experiments just outside that city. I attended the International Tesla Symposium, held every other year in the Springs, and ventured into a dark auditorium, where the lights were turned off and engineers fired up huge Tesla Coils generating 1,000,000 volts of electricity. As the juice shot back and forth between them, it danced around the stage and set off a thunderous display, the black air charged with wild and hissing electrical currents, like drawings of jagged, purple men.

Afterwards, a scientist took him aside and said, “It’s absolutely amazing that for the past 90 years almost no one on earth has understood what Tesla was talking about when he discussed the magnification of energy.”

Despite this neglect, Tesla had laid the foundation for the wireless transmission of energy, which led to radio. And then to television, fax machines, cell phones, robotics, airplanes that could fly straight up on takeoff, and laser beams. He eventually held more than 700 U.S. patents, always leaping toward his next vision while more practical men were making money from recent technological breakthroughs.

He viewed science as the best way to improve the human condition because it would increase what people could do and decrease the work necessary to do it, but he often left money, envy, human spite, competitiveness, and naked aggression out of his grand equation. As soon as he’d invented AC, he began looking for new ways to replace it with something more efficient and cheaper. The scientific celebrity had met Hindu masters from the Far East, who had their own ideas about how the universe functioned. They intrigued Tesla because some of his own deepest intuitions were similar to theirs: his childhood visions had hinted that the atmosphere was filled with potential energy and if he could just find a way to tap into it, the world would have access to a never-ending supply of non-polluting, renewable energy -- there for the taking and available to all.

It didn’t occur to him that men like J.P. Morgan did not want free energy or to improve on AC, but to produce electricity and sell it like any other commodity. When Morgan or Astor loaned Tesla money to do something practical -- build a better light bulb, for example, than Thomas Edison’s -- they expected him to get the job done and on time. He took their money and began conducting wireless-transmission and free-energy experiments, constructing a huge transmitting tower on Long Island, called Wardenclyffe, designed to send signals around (or beyond) the globe.

As the inventor frantically tried to complete the half-built tower, Europe was sliding toward World War I. Instead of becoming more wealthy and celebrated, like Edison, he’d become more visionary and dangerous to the businessmen who’d supported him. When he ran out of funds to pay his bills, he thought others would pick up the tab, but they refused. The Waldorf assumed ownership of Wardenclyffe and days before a Long Island sheriff was to seize it and auction off the parts, Tesla took a lonely trip out to the tower and climbed it by himself, raising a hand and railing at the heavens against the forces that had stalled his dream of uniting mankind and providing it with free energy.

This modern Prometheus
who’d given the world not fire but alternating current -- was symbolically chained to his doomed tower. When America entered the war against Germany in 1917, the U.S. military deemed Wardenclyffe a threat to national security and munitions experts blew it up. But he kept envisioning and inventing.

In the 1930s, on his 75th birthday, “Time” magazine featured him on its cover, yet he’d become little more than an aging curiosity, with his strange talk about life beyond earth and about nature holding an endless supply of energy. If this source could only be developed, he promised with characteristic idealism, never again would humanity be faced with a shortage of power. Big corporations and utility companies now controlled America’s energy sources and huge fortunes were being made in gas and oil. Europe and the Far East were preparing for a vast second world war, which would employ the latest technology not for peaceful ends but for human slaughter. Tesla had been relegated to the category of a dreamer, an old fellow who hung out with pigeons. Following his death in 1943, his reputation faded and began to disappear. Many engineers who graduated from major U.S. universities in the second half of the 20th Century had never read about him or even heard his name. But he still worried the American government.

When he died, World War II was at its height and his native Yugoslavia was becoming a communist satellite of the Soviet Union. The Yugoslavian government, which viewed Tesla as one of its greatest national heroes, desperately wanted the 11,000 pages of scientific writings and drawings he’d left behind. The FBI said absolutely not -- until they’d studied, edited, and microfilmed most of it. Some people may have come to regard Tesla as irrelevant to the modern age, but sophisticated minds knew better. The U.S. military was anxious to turn one of his concepts, the death ray, into a useful weapon and extremely worried about it falling into either Nazi or Soviet hands. At Tesla’s death, his treasure load of material was confiscated and taken to the Foreign Technology Division at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, where it was logged in as classified and viewable only with a top-secret clearance. At the start of the new millennium, it remained classified and a security problem for the American government. In those pages, Tesla put down his thoughts on death rays, space travel, and exploiting untapped energy sources.

Nearing death and with World War II on the horizon, the old man had written, “Out of this war, the greatest since the beginning of history, a new world must be born that would justify the sacrifices offered by humanity, where there will be no humiliation of the poor by the violence of the rich; where the products of intellect, science, and art will serve society for the betterment and beautification of life, and not the individuals for achieving wealth. This new world shall be a world of free men and free nations, equal in dignity and respect.”

He died alone, in 1943. Fifty years later, an engineer told me, “Nobody wants to listen to Tesla. There’s still too much oil in the ground, it’s still affordable, and America is passing through a time of peace and prosperity. No one is ready to rock the energy boat -- yet.”

Fifteen years have passed since that statement was made and the United States is now conducting two wars in oil-rich regions of the world. Global warming, according to many credible scientits, is intensifying. Has the time come to consider visionary alternatives to fossil fuels? Or should we wait another century and hope for the best? ]http://stephensingular.com/Blog/archive/2007/10/11/The-Magic-of-Nikola-Tes la----Part-II.aspx

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PROMETHEUS was the Titan god of forethought and crafty counsel who was entrusted with the task of moulding mankind out of clay. His attempts to better the lives of his creation brought him into direct conflict with Zeus. Firstly he tricked the gods out of the best portion of the sacrificial feast, acquiring the meat for the feasting of man. Then, when Zeus withheld fire, he stole it from heaven and delivered it to mortal kind hidden inside a fennel-stalk. As punishment for these rebellious acts, Zeus ordered the creation of Pandora (the first woman) as a means to deliver misfortune into the house of man, or as a way to cheat mankind of the company of the good spirits. Prometheus meanwhile, was arrested and bound to a stake on Mount Kaukasos where an eagle was set to feed upon his ever-regenerating liver (or, some say, heart). Generations later the great hero Herakles came along and released the old Titan from his torture.

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posted October 26, 2010 03:32 PM         

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Nikola Tesla (Serbian: Никола Тесла; 10 July 1856 – 7 January 1943)

was an inventor, mechanical engineer, and electrical engineer. He was an important contributor to the birth of commercial electricity, and is best known for his many revolutionary developments in the field of electromagnetism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Tesla's patents and theoretical work formed the basis of modern alternating current (AC) electric power systems, including the polyphase system of electrical distribution and the AC motor. This work helped usher in the Second Industrial Revolution.

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More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

And what I posted above.
He wanted to give mankind FREE ENERGY!

posted October 26, 2010 03:37 PM         

my friend with the T coils has resigned himself to "educational" displays in the face of some pretty heavy-handed punishments meted out to those who actually "steal" electricity with them and thus infringe on GE's "RIGHTS"...classic, huh?

posted October 26, 2010 03:44 PM         

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The Titan god Prometheus had been chained to a rock by Zeus, the chief Olympian god. Being chained to the rock was to be his (Prometheus') punishment for having previous stolen fire from Olympia as a gift to mortals.

Each day (some versions say every other day) Zeus' eagle would come and eat Prometheus' liver. Each night the liver would heal itself. Then the eagle would come again for his liver snacks.

As stipulated by Zeus - Prometheus could only be released if (and when) an immortal offered to go to Tartarus and take his place. Going to Tartarus would mean the immortal was giving up his status as an immortal and would die.

Chiron, being the son of Kronus and half-brother of Zeus, agreed to take the place of Prometheus, and then eventually died. Upon his death, he was then released from his wound that would never heal.

Chiron was then honored with the constellation of Centaurus.

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Yes, the greedy idiots who cannot see that the energy of the future MUST BE FREE;
are putting serious restrictions and moronic laws on those who know what is best for humankind and this planet.

posted October 26, 2010 03:49 PM         

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he believes that tesla's inventions will be necessary for what he sees as inevitable travel into space in search of new homelands...in fact apparently NASA is already using some of his "stuff" currently..

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posted October 26, 2010 03:56 PM         

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i think as pluto has crossed your ascendant it will be time to deliver your "fire" - the books? - to humanity soon....

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posted October 26, 2010 04:24 PM         

you made me curious. So I put TESLA and PROMETHEUS (us Aquarius Moons certainly have an affinity to this asteroid) into my chart.

PROMETHEUS is on 19.45 Capricorn in my 2nd house, conjunct Sun/Moon-mp and Antivertex, widely opposite Saturn, squaring Chiron and conjunct ARTHUR.

Sabian:

CAPRICORN 19-20
A HIDDEN CHOIR SINGING DURING A RELIGIOUS SERVICE
Be receptive to your feminine, intuitive side, there are messages to be heard even though not apparent. Realize that you are not alone, that there are other people who feel the same things. The voices of the women heard more through orthodox halls. Do you hear them and do you want to contribute?
Background messages and quiet worship. Men women and the church. Hearing messages and voices. Singing. Voices from "nowhere".
The Caution: Taking undue credit for group qualities. A lack of commitment. Messages that don't make sense.

But TESLA is on 27.04 Sagittarius conjunct my SUN on 25.56 Sag,
MERCURY on 25.03 Sag,
MERLIN on 24.35 Sag,
CIRCE on 27.37 Sag,
REIKI on 27.35 Sag and
ROBINHOOD on 25.33 Sag and
JUNG on 27.15 Sag.

I find it especially interesting, that Tesla, Circe, Jung and Reiki are on the very same degree. One of my favourite Sabians actually. I like that image of a bridge.

SAGITTARIUS 27-28
A SPLENDIDLY BUILT BRIDGE, A HERITAGE OF UNKNOWN AGES, STILL SPANS THE BEAUTIFUL AND WILDLY PRIMITIVE STREAM
You may feel a need to bridge the fresh and energetic emotions with constructive thought and activity. Traditional ways of approaching things can lead to the best solutions. There is a linking of people, places and things with clarity.
Enduring elements from past traditions providing a link with the modern day. Reverence for things of worth that stand as reminders of yesterday.
The Caution: Sticking with old and possibly outworn methods, with no new ideas to resolve the situation.

posted October 26, 2010 07:00 PM         

I looked up yours, too.

Let me know if you are interested in other degrees, too.

Prometheus: 4-5 Cap.

CAPRICORN 4-5
INDIANS - SOME ROWING A CANOE WHILE OTHERS ARE DANCING A WAR DANCE
Someone may feel a need to solve the situation with aggression. Aggression isn't really the answer, but, to make a show of your position and the effort you will make to defend it, will ultimately win the respect of those around you. Keep rowing, and head towards your desired destination!.
Cooperation and release. Vehicles of journeying and discovery versus arguing and bickering.
The Caution: Intimidation. Making a superficial show of strength.

Another interpretation of this degree:
PHASE 275 (CAPRICORN 5°): INDIANS ON THE WARPATH, WHILE SOME MEN ROW A WELL-FILLED CANOE, OTHERS IN IT PERFORM A WAR DANCE.

KEYNOTE: The mobilization of physical and emotional energies in a spirit of conquest.

War is often undertaken mainly to mobilize the common will and avoid individualistic disintegration. The "Indian chief" in the symbol for Capricorn 1° may find it convenient or necessary to arouse the war spirit — perhaps under a very slight provocation — in order to more firmly establish his authority. The scene presents an extremely dynamic situation. The group (or the nation) affirms its solidarity and unity of purpose by taking the offensive. The group-life demands constant activity and challenges in order to remain healthy.

This is the last symbol of the fifty-fifth sequence. It suggests that AGGRESSIVENESS may be a necessary ingredient in the activation of the potential of growth inherent in any social group.

Tesla: 22-23 Libra
LIBRA 22-23
CHANTICLEER'S VOICE HERALDS THE RISING SUN WITH ENTHUSIASTIC TONES
Each day begins the same, although what is to come is always a mystery. There can be a blurring of the concept of whether the "rooster" the 'Chanticleer' causes or simply heralds the new day. Someone may feel that they have become the driving force in the situation. As long as they don't crow too loudly, all will be fine.
Anticipating new opportunities. Waking early. Having a clear, beautiful or loud voice.
The Caution: Overstating your role, talents or abilities. Being noisy and disturbing others.

PHASE 203 (LIBRA 23°): CHANTICLEER'S VOICE HERALDS SUNRISE.

KEYNOTE: A creative and joyous response to life processes.

The **** that crows as the first coloring of dawn appears at the eastern horizon is a beautiful symbol of the ability, demonstrated by all pioneers and cosmically attuned individuals, to give voice to what is as yet unmanifested, but is on the way to manifestation. At the ego level, chanticleer may feel that he makes the sun rise; but someday he will learn through painful experiences that to create is only to reveal what essentially is. It is the vivid recognition of the as-yet-unknown in the known.

This third stage symbol should make us think afresh about issues we too often take for granted. At every "sunrise" there are a few isolated witnesses that herald the coming of a new day. What is at stake here is the individual's capacity of RESPONSE TO LIFE'S RENEWALS — renewals which are cyclic, predictable, yet always new, always creative.

http://www.mindfire.ca/The%20Sabian%20Symbols/An%20Astrological%20Mandala%20-%20Libra16-30.htm

posted October 27, 2010 04:23 AM         

this here
"It is the vivid recognition of the as-yet-unknown in the known. "

resonated very much with me on your behalf, especially in regards to your talent of lexigramming, as you are bringing into the light / open which has been inherent (in the words) yet unseen so far.

posted October 28, 2010 01:13 AM         

do you know the poem "Prometheus" by Goethe?
I think it`s so powerful.

I have my personal not so nice thoughts about Goethe as a person (only based on biographical notes though), but love that poem really much.

Prometheus

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COVER thy spacious heavens, Zeus,
With clouds of mist,
And, like the boy who lops
The thistles' heads,
Disport with oaks and mountain-peaks,
Yet thou must leave
My earth still standing;
My cottage too, which was not raised by thee;
Leave me my hearth,
Whose kindly glow
By thee is envied.

I know nought poorer
Under the sun, than ye gods!
Ye nourish painfully,
With sacrifices
And votive prayers,
Your majesty:
Ye would e'en starve,
If children and beggars
Were not trusting fools.

While yet a child
And ignorant of life,
I turned my wandering gaze
Up tow'rd the sun, as if with him
There were an ear to hear my wailings,
A heart, like mine,
To feel compassion for distress.

Who help'd me
Against the Titans' insolence?
Who rescued me from certain death,
From slavery?
Didst thou not do all this thyself,
My sacred glowing heart?
And glowedst, young and good,
Deceived with grateful thanks
To yonder slumbering one?

I honour thee! and why?
Hast thou e'er lighten'd the sorrows
Of the heavy laden?
Hast thou e'er dried up the tears
Of the anguish-stricken?
Was I not fashion'd to be a man
By omnipotent Time,
And by eternal Fate,
Masters of me and thee?

Didst thou e'er fancy
That life I should learn to hate,
And fly to deserts,
Because not all
My blossoming dreams grew ripe?

Here sit I, forming mortals
After my image;
A race resembling me,
To suffer, to weep,
To enjoy, to be glad,
And thee to scorn,
As I!

(Personally I find it even more impressive in German though.
http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/prometheus-2/