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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 03, 2010 10:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those already married or living together,have you already looked at your own Part of Marriage?

Does it aspect your partner´s chart in a strong conection,like conjunct the angles or principal planets?

Asteroids

Valentine
Karma
Amor
Angel
Union

and also with the lovey dovey aspects?

Or in the contrary,are you divorced,or separated,did the relationship turned sower,and your or the other´s POM show it? with the pluto/saturn/mars shadow energies?Or with the darker archetypes of the asteroids nessus,dejanira,lucifer,kaali,nemesis,persefone,medusa...and ones that you think are able to show the dynamics of how the relationship was?


Perhaps with association with the Juno placement too?

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MysticMelody
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posted November 03, 2010 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Diandra, respected astrology guru girl. How do I look up POM on astro.com? Is it the same as Pars Fortune? Libra girl in need of more astro evidence for her crush... What?? It's the way I LEARN.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 03, 2010 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic

it was my mistake sorry...the POM is calculated in here-

http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

then you choose the Marriage= AC + Cusp7th -Venus

This is an awesome calculator,and it has almost all of the arabic parts.

i think that most of them were not really studied in depth but the POM one is the one most looked at.

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DD
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posted November 03, 2010 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents
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my Dad`s PoM: 22 Libra

no aspects to my mum`s chart, except for a sextile to Pluto and a wide conjunction to Neptune

my Mum`s PoM: 04 Scorpio (conjunct her own Sun)

squares his Sun on 5 Aquarius
opposes his Moon on 1 Taurus

Dad`s Juno on 4 Libra:

widely conjunct her Nemesis on 1 Libra
opposite her Jupiter on 6 Aries


Mum`s Juno on 13 Sagittarius:

conjunct his IC on 14 Sag
sextile his Jupiter on 14 Aquarius
sextile his Venus on 12 Aquarius
trine his Lucifer on 14 Aries


Married for over 36 years.


Friends of mine married for 6 years, together for 10 years

his PoM: 15 Cancer (conj. his own DESC)

trine her Valentine on 17 Pisces
square her Moon on 15 Aries


her PoM: 11 Libra (conj. her own Venus, Mars, Pluto)

square his ASC on 9 Cap
square his Sun on 13 Cap

conjunct his Pluto on 11 Libra
sextile his Union / Neptune on 11 Sag

his Juno on : 19 Virgo

conjunct her Sun on 18 Virgo


her Juno on: 9 Libra

conjunct his Pluto on 11 Libra
square his ASC on 9 Cap

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 03, 2010 12:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD

What do you feel about it?IS it Juno or POM that is more accurate when you look at how those relationship´s dynamics are?

i was always interested in POM specifically because there arent really any studies about it,(not that i know about it)and so i ithink it is interesting to see if it represents the reality of the committed partners.

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DD
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posted November 03, 2010 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found it interesting that in both cases PoM had challenging aspects to Sun or / and Moon.

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posted November 03, 2010 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much, Diandra! I will play with this later.

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Lara
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posted November 04, 2010 06:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our POM aspects are spooky.

His POM 6'20 taurus
my sun 6'20 taurus
0'00 cj
his POM cj my venus/mars MP exact and his own sun.
his POM opposes my juno 1' and karma exact.

my POM 3'29 cancer
his NN 3'26 cancer
0'00 cj
my POM trines his saturn exact.

WEIRD!

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DD
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posted November 05, 2010 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, Lara.


so far it seems we should look out for the challenging aspects (including conjunction) of PoM to Sun or Moon (and the nodal axis of cousre also has lunar symbolism).

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posted November 05, 2010 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My exhusbands moon 19/ pallas 18/ amor 18 in pisces
conj my chiron 18/ innanen 20/
conj my P of marriage 22 in pisces
trine my juno 20/ pallas 20 in scorpio
trine his N.N 22 in scorpio

My exhusbands part of marriage 7 taurus conj my osiris 6
conj my Draconic fortuna 6

I think it's much interesting with arabic part because they are so personal. Asteroids are so slow and much people often have the same aspectpattern.

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posted November 05, 2010 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually it depends on the asteroid, how slow or quick they are.
Most of them are far quicker than Jupiter and the transpersonal planets.
Eros is pretty fast, actually.

But arabic parts of course ar much more individual as they include the ASC.

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posted November 05, 2010 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. Right AC and right housesystem is everything.

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posted November 05, 2010 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

question still remains: what is the right housesystem?

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posted November 05, 2010 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Housesystem...That's also a problem. Everyone have an own view about that. This also describe how important AC/DC/MC/IC axes are and also moon, wertex and points which is personal. It's not much in the heaven and in a chart which going fast.

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posted November 05, 2010 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I definitely place the most importance on Moon, ASC DESC, MC, IC and Vertex.

But this unresolved housesystem-issue REALLY bothers me. It does.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 06, 2010 08:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me too! =P cause in placidus i have sun in 11th and jup in 3rd but if i use equal...jup is in the 2nd ( good for money) but sun is on 12th ( not very good then).

so in one way i would love to have the jup in the 2nd ,but not sun in the 12th

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posted November 06, 2010 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s not about what we judge as good or bad though.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 06, 2010 09:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know DD

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Lara
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posted November 06, 2010 09:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you say houserulers, do you mean for arabic parts where it includes 5th and 10th cusps?
Must be cos the angles don't change degrees with different systems.

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blonderiverkat
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posted December 29, 2010 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may sound like a dumb question, but I hate to make assumptions on anything...as far as using the Arabic Parts Calculator, it asks for degrees and minutes...no mention of hours. So do we just input the minutes from the natal in question, or convert the hours to minutes? Thanx!

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Alvarella777
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posted December 30, 2010 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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***edit: Oh, sorry - I was never married, I didn't read it properly ***

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