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Topic: About POM Arabic Part
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DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted November 03, 2010 10:09 AM
For those already married or living together,have you already looked at your own Part of Marriage?Does it aspect your partner´s chart in a strong conection,like conjunct the angles or principal planets? Asteroids Valentine Karma Amor Angel Union and also with the lovey dovey aspects? Or in the contrary,are you divorced,or separated,did the relationship turned sower,and your or the other´s POM show it? with the pluto/saturn/mars shadow energies?Or with the darker archetypes of the asteroids nessus,dejanira,lucifer,kaali,nemesis,persefone,medusa...and ones that you think are able to show the dynamics of how the relationship was? Perhaps with association with the Juno placement too?
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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 03, 2010 10:14 AM
Hello Diandra, respected astrology guru girl. How do I look up POM on astro.com? Is it the same as Pars Fortune? Libra girl in need of more astro evidence for her crush... What?? It's the way I LEARN. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted November 03, 2010 10:31 AM
Mystic it was my mistake sorry...the POM is calculated in here- http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php then you choose the Marriage= AC + Cusp7th -Venus This is an awesome calculator,and it has almost all of the arabic parts. i think that most of them were not really studied in depth but the POM one is the one most looked at. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 03, 2010 11:18 AM
My parents ------------ ------------my Dad`s PoM: 22 Libra no aspects to my mum`s chart, except for a sextile to Pluto and a wide conjunction to Neptune my Mum`s PoM: 04 Scorpio (conjunct her own Sun) squares his Sun on 5 Aquarius opposes his Moon on 1 Taurus Dad`s Juno on 4 Libra: widely conjunct her Nemesis on 1 Libra opposite her Jupiter on 6 Aries Mum`s Juno on 13 Sagittarius:
conjunct his IC on 14 Sag sextile his Jupiter on 14 Aquarius sextile his Venus on 12 Aquarius trine his Lucifer on 14 Aries Married for over 36 years.
Friends of mine married for 6 years, together for 10 years
his PoM: 15 Cancer (conj. his own DESC) trine her Valentine on 17 Pisces square her Moon on 15 Aries her PoM: 11 Libra (conj. her own Venus, Mars, Pluto)
square his ASC on 9 Cap square his Sun on 13 Cap conjunct his Pluto on 11 Libra sextile his Union / Neptune on 11 Sag his Juno on : 19 Virgo conjunct her Sun on 18 Virgo her Juno on: 9 Libra
conjunct his Pluto on 11 Libra square his ASC on 9 Cap IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted November 03, 2010 12:24 PM
DDWhat do you feel about it?IS it Juno or POM that is more accurate when you look at how those relationship´s dynamics are? i was always interested in POM specifically because there arent really any studies about it,(not that i know about it)and so i ithink it is interesting to see if it represents the reality of the committed partners. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 03, 2010 01:04 PM
I found it interesting that in both cases PoM had challenging aspects to Sun or / and Moon.IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 03, 2010 07:30 PM
Thank you very much, Diandra! I will play with this later. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted November 04, 2010 06:46 PM
Our POM aspects are spooky.His POM 6'20 taurus my sun 6'20 taurus 0'00 cj his POM cj my venus/mars MP exact and his own sun. his POM opposes my juno 1' and karma exact. my POM 3'29 cancer his NN 3'26 cancer 0'00 cj my POM trines his saturn exact. WEIRD! IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 02:29 AM
Cool, Lara. so far it seems we should look out for the challenging aspects (including conjunction) of PoM to Sun or Moon (and the nodal axis of cousre also has lunar symbolism).
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popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1951 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 03:05 AM
My exhusbands moon 19/ pallas 18/ amor 18 in pisces conj my chiron 18/ innanen 20/ conj my P of marriage 22 in pisces trine my juno 20/ pallas 20 in scorpio trine his N.N 22 in scorpioMy exhusbands part of marriage 7 taurus conj my osiris 6 conj my Draconic fortuna 6 I think it's much interesting with arabic part because they are so personal. Asteroids are so slow and much people often have the same aspectpattern.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 04:01 AM
Actually it depends on the asteroid, how slow or quick they are. Most of them are far quicker than Jupiter and the transpersonal planets. Eros is pretty fast, actually.But arabic parts of course ar much more individual as they include the ASC. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1951 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 05:05 AM
I agree. Right AC and right housesystem is everything. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 05:25 AM
Yes.question still remains: what is the right housesystem? IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1951 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 07:42 AM
Housesystem...That's also a problem. Everyone have an own view about that. This also describe how important AC/DC/MC/IC axes are and also moon, wertex and points which is personal. It's not much in the heaven and in a chart which going fast.IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 08:44 AM
Yeah, I definitely place the most importance on Moon, ASC DESC, MC, IC and Vertex.But this unresolved housesystem-issue REALLY bothers me. It does. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted November 06, 2010 08:42 AM
me too! =P cause in placidus i have sun in 11th and jup in 3rd but if i use equal...jup is in the 2nd ( good for money) but sun is on 12th ( not very good then).so in one way i would love to have the jup in the 2nd ,but not sun in the 12th IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2010 09:13 AM
It`s not about what we judge as good or bad though.IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted November 06, 2010 09:14 AM
i know DD IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted November 06, 2010 09:36 AM
When you say houserulers, do you mean for arabic parts where it includes 5th and 10th cusps? Must be cos the angles don't change degrees with different systems. IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat Knowflake Posts: 312 From: Needles, California USA Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 29, 2010 03:13 PM
This may sound like a dumb question, but I hate to make assumptions on anything...as far as using the Arabic Parts Calculator, it asks for degrees and minutes...no mention of hours. So do we just input the minutes from the natal in question, or convert the hours to minutes? Thanx! IP: Logged |
Alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 30, 2010 06:27 AM
DELETED ***edit: Oh, sorry - I was never married, I didn't read it properly ***IP: Logged |