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JohnFKennedy
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posted November 07, 2010 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message
So I've been dating this guy - and I can honestly say I haven't been so enthralled with another person since my most ridiculous relationship ended in 2007. Pretty crazy business. We've been dating on and off since May of 2010, but have ran around in the same circles and admired each other from afar since 2004. It's interesting. This particular person seems strangely intimidated by me - I say it's strange because he's one of the most classically masculine men I've ever met and has always been able to have the upper hand/advantage on women throughout his life. In fact, I've always witnessed this first hand during our long acquaintance stage and I've always made it a point to avoid him while admiring his beauty because he seemed so incompetent when it came to dealing with the women that always seemed to swarm around him. I checked our synastry (proper birth times and all), and my Pluto falls on his ascendant, which is interesting, and I think it's the main cause of why he's always going in and out of my life with both such gusto and then such sudden pathetic retreatment. Here's our synastry if any of you guys would be so kind as to clue my in on what's going on here

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JohnFKennedy
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posted November 07, 2010 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message
There are also some interesting nodal aspects as well, such as:

North Node square (his) Black Moon Lilith
North Node conjunct (his) Moon
Moon opposition (his) South Node
Venus sextile (his) North Node
Venus trine (his) South Node
Pluto square (his) NN/SN
North Node (mine) conjunct Venus
NN (mine) opposition (his) SN
SN (mine) oppsition (his) Venus

It kind of bizarrely feels like a student/teacher relationship (me being the teacher) in so many ways.

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amowls*
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posted November 07, 2010 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not so sure it's your Pluto on his ASC that's causing this. Pluto is generational and he has Pluto conjunct ASC natally which means that EVERYONE around his age has their Pluto on his ASC which would mean he's intimidated by everyone lol (and that's not usually the case for folks with Pluto conjunct ASC... they're very well put together people).

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JohnFKennedy
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posted November 07, 2010 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting! I'm still pretty new at this in comparison to all the other champs on this board, but it's all a learning experience. I know libra in the 12th house is an indicator that a sense of fairness could be pushed into the background and there is a compulsion with him now around reconciling that energy. All I know is that he treats me very kindly and tenderly, which was a huge shock for me given that it's just not what one would expect from him given his history.

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amowls*
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posted November 07, 2010 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Your Moon is on his NN... could be that he feels that you have to teach him (like you said) something in order for his soul to progress.

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JohnFKennedy
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posted November 09, 2010 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message
I totally get that vibe, but at the same time he can be so elusive and I cannot stand chasing after men, sometimes. It makes me feel so creepy, but I am one for a speedy process..

I would love to hear some more feedback on the chart, since the entire situation has been obsessively on my mind the past few days thanks to this lovely retrograde

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amowls*
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posted November 09, 2010 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I think you may need to be patient with him. He might be afraid of his feelings (I'm saying this just by glancing at his Sun in Cap w/ Venus in Aquarius + Mars in Sag).

My best friend actually was born around the same time as your guy and she can be totally flakey about relationships. But that's because she's a nutjob lol. I've witnessed all sorts of relationships she's gone through and I can tell you, I would steer clear of her if I were any of her prospects (but that's because I am cranky and old... or at least I feel old lol and can't take the bs anymore).

Basically, if you feel that there's something there, patience is definitely required.

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posted November 09, 2010 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I think the mutual attraction may be the Taurus element. You're a Taurus, and he's got a jam packed second house (the second house corresponds to Taurus). Maybe you guys should make some music.

General issues with him may stem from his Sun (and other planets) opposite his Moon. You may want to check out interpretations for that.

Your Sun is also in his 7th, so you definitely have an "in" there. He should like you. He may be pulling on you the same thing you're pulling on him, which is that neither of you chases. Being so Cardinal he should be able to get over that, but it's difficult because he can't tell if you're into him or not.

Both of your North Nodes are in Aquarius, so you're both quite comfortable in the spotlight. That could also present challenges if you're both unwilling to show any vulnerability.

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posted November 12, 2010 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
JFK, where did you go?

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JohnFKennedy
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posted November 12, 2010 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry about that! Strangely enough I didn't get any email notifications that anyone had responded on this thread.

I will say that for a while he was DEFINITELY chasing me - he was insistant on dating, even though I was iffy because he was my friends ex boyfriend, although they split up two years ago. He's said he's had a crush on me for years, and all my mutual friends have always confirmed this. It wasn't until October when his nonchalance became obvious (we had dated from May until July, stopped talking for a bit, then started talking again in September and this isn't an online relationship to clarify). He has Venus retrograde in his natal chart so I'm thinking he can't be affected by this so maybe I'm doing something wrong by suddenly chasing him? I made my feelings obvious in mid to late Ooctober and I got stoicism in return. You can tell he's repressing something though, and it's not wishful thinking. He's extremely Cancerian more than he lets on.

My issue is that I definitely don't like being vulnerable, and I guess when I admitted I wanted to date again in October I presented it as casual fun more than anything else. Do you think he didn't appreciate that? He does like to present himself as this rebellious non commited guy.

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posted November 13, 2010 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm...I can't say for certain. Being a Capricorn myself I can accept that certain relationships will be finite, but what I'm really looking for is someone who will work long term. If you've been a person he's liked persistently, maybe he thinks more of you than his typical fling.

Also, maybe he felt that you kind of trivialized the connection when you suggested dating for fun or whatever.

These are just possibilities of what may be going on with him.

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JohnFKennedy
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posted November 13, 2010 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message
It's bizarre because initially HE was the one going on about how much he didn't want a relationship all the while he was chasing me relentlessly. Upon closer inspection at his natal chart do I realize he had Venus RX natally! I'm wondering if the recent RX has effected him in a different way than the rest of us usually are. As it were, he haven't spoken for two weeks.

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