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CosmicKarma360
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posted November 13, 2010 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 13, 2010 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes!

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posted November 13, 2010 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh-Oh.... That bad, huh?

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F me!

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posted November 13, 2010 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm... Your replies aren't making me feel better! Whee! Gonna get prepared for a whopper of a year of some kind. <gulp!>

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posted November 13, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO at the replies so far.

*edit. That is some chart. I'm looking, but I don't know what to say right now.

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posted November 13, 2010 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all is the chart correct? Correct ref place?
You natal chart will help understand how this year will affect you.

There is an abundance of energy in Aries/Libra. Where do you have that?

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posted November 13, 2010 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it should be correct. I have my correct birth time and place. I used the one there at Astrodienst. Could be I have it set up wrong. I'll double-check.

*edit: Just checked, and yeah, it's my place of birth.

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posted November 13, 2010 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Libra bit I'm not sure about. My natal has no Libra, but I'm an Aries Sun with Mars in Aries.

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posted November 13, 2010 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay and also change this chart to the 'natal and solar return chart'.

Include asteroid Karma, and your name asteroid if they have it. Maybe Eros and Aphrodite..

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posted November 13, 2010 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

Ok, here's the Natal and Solar, with Karma, Eros and Aphrodite. Gotta admit, this one looks better than the first.

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posted November 13, 2010 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
post this one:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=ipkfilefSIZ2I-u1288918295&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=2&nho2=2&btyp=31&mth=gw&sday=13&smon=11&syr=2010&hsy=-1&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&ast=

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posted November 13, 2010 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okie Dokie. Hope this is the right one? Thanks!

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posted November 13, 2010 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first thing I said when I saw the chart was "Jesus!"

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posted November 13, 2010 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a bad solar return ,too ,and I am still here

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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posted November 13, 2010 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh, you all have me plenty worried now! Yeah, well, we'll see. Maybe it won't be so bad. Going to do all I can to stay positive. By the way, is there *anything* that's all right in there? Or should I go hide for a year

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posted November 13, 2010 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shouldn't the place of reference your current location and not your birth place?

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posted November 13, 2010 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, ok. Didn't know that, but I'm pretty much in the same place as my place of birth. Only about 20 miles apart. I can go back and change that, if it would make any great difference?

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posted November 13, 2010 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, i guess then there won't be much difference... it was my attempt to see if you can get a little different configuration in your chart...! i'm super bad at Solar return charts, but it does look a bit scary to me too... but again, it's YOU who's living in it and taking control, not the other way around. good luck!

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posted November 13, 2010 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tried to update the chart with my current location, and nothing had changed. Thanks for trying! I guess there's no polishing this t*rd. I'll just have to wait and see.

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posted November 13, 2010 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems like you're gonna keep to yourself this year maybe focusing on your karma.

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posted November 14, 2010 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooohhhh Boy... Seems like I've been doing plenty of that lately! Yikes, even more of the same to look forward to. <sigh...> I had been hoping that maybe the new year would be a kinder, gentler one, since I'll have all sorts of fun transits with Jupiter, but I guess not.

Oh well, just going to try to go with the flow and *stay positive*. It's hard to do lately, but I'm learning here to appreciate the really small stuff.

Thanks for all your input! I do appreciate it, even though it isn't exactly roses and candy

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posted November 14, 2010 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyrjw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's something I found that might help you figure this out....

Solar Return lesson 1
November 30, 2008 by astrobabie
Solar Returns
By Ron Bippus
GENERAL RULES
The Solar Return chart is calculated for the exact moment in time that the
Sun returns to its natal position, and is set in the place where you
currently live. It forecasts the general outlook for the year ahead, and
should be used as part of a whole spectrum of techniques that include
transits, progressions, and directions. The Solar Return is a snapshot of
the zodiac at the precise moment that the transiting Sun conjoins the
natal Sun. This makes the Solar Return similar to a horary, which makes
predictions based on the quality of time that a question is asked or an
event occurs. It points out where the action is by its emphasis on certain
houses and signs. The Solar Return is always set up for your present place
of residence, not for your place of birth. Going somewhere else for your
birthday to change the nature of the coming year does not really work,
since you would have to stay there all year to experience the change in
the rising sign.
INTERPRETATION
1. The rising sign and the house cusp it represents in the natal chart are
the prime focus for the year. If the sign is intercepted in the natal chart,
it will be a very frustrating and difficult year. Any planets in the first
house also strongly influence the emotional tenor, but the signs on all
four angles are always important. The Solar Return Ascendant and its
ruler show the general approach to life, and the attitude, health and
fortunes for the year ahead.
2. The house that the Sun is in points at a major issue for the year, and
shows where a great deal of energy is being applied. It shows the basiclife pattern for the year, and if there are many aspects to the Sun, it will
be a very active year. Fewer aspects indicate less activity and a more
tranquil year. The house in which the Sun falls in the SR chart is the
birthday month’s forecast and influence, and each house after is the
following month, since the Sun transits at the rate of one sign or house
per month. Each house is treated as events in that month, and the sign
and planet ruling the cusp influences the outlook for that month. The
chart is used like a clock, with 12 months on its face instead of 12 hours.
As the Sun conjoins or aspects other planets in the SR, it will generate
events.
3. The Solar Return is a horary chart, and can be interpreted without
reference to the natal chart. Special attention must be paid to the aspects
of the transiting Moon, since its last aspect before it changes signs
determines the final outcome of all issues.
a. If the Moon is void of course not much will change unless there are
overwhelming indications for change by house and aspect.
b. If a planet changes signs before the Moon does, then all efforts for
change are wasted, nothing will come of them.
c. If the final aspect is an opposition, then there will likely be a
separation from lovers or employers.
d. If the final aspect is a square, then challenges are met successfully,
indicating a very good year.
e. If the final aspect is a conjunction to a benefic, or a trine or sextile,
then everything will turn out well.
4. The SR can be interpreted as a temporary natal chart for the year.
The houses with several planets in them have the strongest influence on
the coming year. If the planets are somewhat scattered, then the chart
must be assessed by hemisphere and quadrant. If there are more planets
in angular houses, then this indicates many new projects for the year
ahead. A preponderance of planets in the succeedent houses indicates the
completion of work already under way. A majority of planets in the cadent
houses suggest a year of changes and mental activity and stress.
The Moon in the Solar Return
The Moon shows every day activity. In Fire Signs, it’s very active, social,
and possibly temperamental and confrontational. In Earth, there are
practical and material concerns. Financial affairs are important, and need
to be worked on and balanced. Emotions are strong, but quiet and
introverted. In Air, communications and social activities, learning and
cooler, detached emotions prevail. Energy levels are fairly good. In Water
Signs, it’s an emotional year, with family and relationship concerns and
low energy.
The Moon sign signifies people with the qualities of that sign in your life.
The Moon’s aspects, if strong and numerous, can cause emotional and
health tensions, and a very active daily routine. If there are few aspects,
life is more relaxed and slower, and you will have time to catch your
breath. SR Moon above the horizon, your concerns are mostly focused on career and social connections. Below the horizon, the year involves
subconscious personal problems.
Conjunct the MC, it is an indication of career changes and changes in
personal goals. Conjunct the IC, family and emotional security issues are
sharply highlighted. On the Ascendant, physical health and attitudes
toward others are changeable, whereas on the Descendant it indicates
long term relationships, legal partnerships or marriage undergoing
change.
The Ascendant
The ascendant is what you want to be or achieve that year. The
Descendant is what you project to other people, how others see you.
Planets on the Ascendant indicate the quality, character trait or goal you
wish to achieve that year. Planets on the descendant are the qualities that
you project to others.
CARDINAL signs rising indicate a very active year, with a lot of energy
directed into all areas of life.
FIXED signs indicate concerns with financial or emotional security.
MUTABLE signs indicate social activity and communication with others.
The only problem here is indecisiveness.
TIMING
The transiting Sun moves at the rate of 1 sign or house per month.
Therefore, if you count from the first house following the house that the
Sun is in, then that would be the first month after your birthday. The
other months are similarly counted. Watch for the Sun conjuncting
planets or points in the SR, since this triggers events. Use all inner
transiting planets for event prediction, especially the Sun, since it is the
most important planet in a SR. The aspects made by the Sun as it moves
through the zodiac generate events.
INTERPRETATION
1. Put the natal planets around the inside of the chart, or print a bi-wheel.
The natal/SR planetary aspects can be quite revealing. Also watch the
transiting inner planets making aspects to both SR and natal planets.
2. SR Mercury by Aspect, Sign and House indicates thinking and
communication patterns for the year. Watch for retrograde and direct
stations on a sensitive natal or SR point.
3. SR Venus shows emotional and financial patterns, and how its
conjunctions can be used to accomplish beneficial changes.
4. SR Mars shows action and energy patterns for the year. As it conjuncts
planets in the SR and natal charts, it provokes temper and causes
frustration, but can be source of strength and courage.
5. SR North Node indicates areas of challenge and growth, whereas the
South Node indicates areas of stagnation and previous activity that needs
to be left behind. The outer planets as always indicate major events and
activities.
6. Natal planets conjunct SR planets or angles emphasise and bring natal
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influences into that month of life. Natal angles conjunct SR planets bring
that natal house into that month of life.
7. Grand aspect patterns bring about major changes in life, as will any
natal aspect pattern repeated in the SR.
ASPECT INTERPRETATION
Conjunctions – Emphasis for the year on those planetary house and sign
energies
Oppositions – Reaction from others and to others in your environment.
They are separating aspects.
Squares – Obstacles to be overcome, problems in life style, new drives,
directions and actions
Trines – Benefits and enjoyment from your environment, time of rewards
for use of talents
Sextiles – Others appreciate your insights and creative abilities, achieving
goals through help from others
Inconjuct – Arguments with those close to you because of differences in
philosophy, new working conditions and responsibilities
SOLAR RETURN ASCENDING SIGNS
ARIES This indicates a year of action, quick decisions, and increased
physical energy. Often, there is an interest in relationships and added
financial responsibilities and new enterprises.
TAURUS Financial, career and domestic situations dominate the year, and
some need to consider physical appearance and pragmatic relationships
with people in authority. Caution is called for, and stubborn wilfulness
needs to be controlled. Career wise, this can be a time of heavy burdens
and responsibilities.
GEMINI A head full of ideas and ever changing viewpoints accompany this
sign. Travel and communication with family members are highlighted, and
the social life may be very busy. There may be an addition to the family,
or more than one romantic partner.
CANCER This indicates an emotionally sensitive time, but feelings are
close to the surface and tempers may flare. Family security needs have to
be addressed and resolved.
LEO A good time to be creative, have fun, or have children. A tendency
toward extravagance needs to be watched. With hard aspects
predominant, care should be taken that the relationship and career don’t
founder due to an excessive search for pleasure.
VIRGO A desire to change the type of work you do, and a discontent with
the job in general and the people at work in particular may predominate.
Because of job related stress, health may become an issue. Criticism from
superiors may result in financial woes due to lost raises.
LIBRA Legal issues surrounding relationships and business partnerships
may arise. Co-operation and persuasion rather than verbal aggression are
called for.
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SCORPIO Intensely repressed feelings and emotional issues dominate the
year. There is a need to rely on your own inner resources and strength.
This is not a good position for marriage and other personal relationships.
SAGITTARIUS Opportunities arise to make or spend money, and risky
investments may be undertaken because of an over confident and
optimistic attitude. There is a strong restlessness, so travel and other
expressions of mental freedom are high on the list of priorities.
CAPRICORN Personal restrictions and heavy responsibilities may be
encountered. There are likely to be changes in the career, and any
opportunities that come along should be grasped. This is a good time to
tend to personal affairs rather than career responsibilities.
AQUARIUS A need to detach from the usual social conventions and do
your own thing is very strong. Personal relationships need some focus,
otherwise they are likely to founder. Care should be taken not to spend all
your time and money on humanitarian ideals or travel.
PISCES Intuition and feelings play larger parts than logic and reason. This
indicates a wonderful romance, or hard times and confrontation over
money. Time should be spent on the arts and other creative pursuits.
SOLAR RETURN HOUSES
The Solar Return houses are the most significant part of the
interpretation, since they indicate in what area of life the action will take
place. The natal house placement of the Solar Return Ascendant ruler
shows how the planet operates for the year. Its house placement in the
Solar Return shows how that function can work out.
1st. A strong need for self-expression and initiating action without the
help of others. Opportunities for personal growth and self-development
will likely arise.
2nd. The emphasis is on personal values and finances, as well as financial
problems or opportunities. Earning capacity may be stressed, and
personal self-esteem may become a problem.
3rd. The expression of ideas, and research into those ideas, will occupy
most of the spare time. Writing, travel, and relationships with family
members are emphasised.
4th. Home, family, and health become major issues for the year. Get back
to your roots, keep in touch with the family, and settle some unresolved
family issues.
5th. Romance and creativity are highlighted, and care should be taken
that a romance does not threaten relationships with your children. Have
fun and play games, enjoy life and take some risks, or bet at the
racetrack. Write a book, or make some paintings, or follow whatever
creative streak you have.
6th. Relationships in the work place, and the kind of work being done are
likely to change. This change can be stressful, so physical health may
suffer. The kind of work you do may be in a state of flux, so try not to
make long range career commitments. Don’t over work and burn out.

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7th. Marital, partnership and legal issues need some work. This may be a
good year to get married, or to end a marriage. Let others express their
opinions without getting angry, but remain diplomatic, and try to see the
other person’s perspective. Resolve conflicts and differences through
negotiation, rather than direct action.
8th. Settlements in partnership disputes as well as in legal and marital
affairs are likely. Inheritances, taxes, or alimony may get some attention.
Birth, death, and other major changes are emphasised. This is an
excellent time to make money, especially through real estate and other
investments.
9th. The urge to travel and expand your horizons may be very strong, or
may be enjoyed vicariously by reading books. Other people’s legal affairs
may intrude on your personal life. Involvement with churches or political
groups is likely.
10th. Career and business matters come sharply into focus. A change in
professional status is likely. Relationships with parents, or behaviour as a
parent, become major issues. There is a desire for public recognition and
social approval.
11th. Old or new acquaintances become very important. Work related
creativity might acquire an outlet. Social activity of all kinds takes up a
large amount of time.
12th. The need to relax and get away from work and other pressures
becomes very important. This may take the form of romantic affairs,
involvement with drugs and alcohol, or spiritual pursuits. A year to be
spent in quiet surroundings to recharge the emotional batteries.
RISING PLANETS
SUN A time of personal accomplishments which will be of benefit to
oneself and the family. There is an enormous amount of energy available.
A feeling of confidence and being in control persists throughout the year.
MOON A year of being emotional changes and tending to relationships and
domestic issues. Take care that the emotions don’t run away with you.
Restlessness and a desire for travel and general changeability persist
through the year, so don’t make permanent commitments.
MERCURY Intellectual interests and communication dominate the year,
but nervous exhaustion can be a problem unless there are periods of rest
and relaxation. Take care not to make hasty and careless decisions.
VENUS This is a good time to tend to romantic and financial interests.
Make sure that self-satisfaction is not the only goal. This is a good time
for intimacy, social affairs and fun, but investment opportunities should
not be neglected.
MARS This is a year of exceptional energy, but good planning is needed to
prevent wasting a lot of time in aimlessly running from interest to
interest without accomplishing anything. Self-assurance is fine, but don’t
become arrogant and confrontational.
JUPITER Great self-confidence and self-assurance come with Jupiter
rising. This is a good time for travel and seeking knowledge in foreign
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places, or to withdraw to a quiet place and seek inner wisdom.
SATURN Self-worth will be tested severely, and confidence often
evaporates. Focus on practical matters, and accept responsibility when it
comes along. Don’t give away opportunities, because the failure to take
action will haunt you.
URANUS Take your freedom wherever you find it, and make sudden
changes when the opportunities arise. Be flexible and open to change, and
don’t try to hang onto the past. Feel free to express your opinions, but
don’t be too outrageously different.
NEPTUNE Kick back, chill out and relax. This is not a year to push
outward, but rather to look inward and tend to spiritual needs. Be
creative, take up acting or painting, or write a book.
PLUTO A year of drastic and permanent changes is likely. Permanent
relationships and financial matters will dominate, and both may change
for better or for worse. Others may try to control and dominate you, so
this is the chance to make permanent improvements.
EXAMPLE
Below is the Solar Return for Bill Clinton for the year 1998
Bill’s ascendant is Gemini, his natal 9th house of legal issues and lawyers,
and the natural sign of communication, Mercury ruler 1st accidentally
dignified in the 4th. The Sun is in the 4th house of family opposite the
10th of career, the Moon of changes is in the 3rd of communication. The
last aspect of the Moon is a conjunction to Mars, so we know that his year
ended in conflict. Most of the planets are in the 3rd of neigbours and
communication, the 4th of family and the 9th of lawyers, so we know
these houses will be very active. Pluto in the 7th trining Venus also
foretells many legal problems due to romantic affairs. There were stories
of Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky in the summer of 1998. These
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were apparently successfully denied, only to blow right up in his face in
December when the transiting Sun hit his descendant in Sagittarius.
Monica finally told her story in excruciating detail to a Congressional
committee when the Sun hit Uranus conjunct the 10th cusp, opposite
Mercury in the 4th. Despite the attacks on him and the attempts to
impeach him, Clinton survived since the last aspect of the Moon is a
conjunction to Mars. Conjunctions are considered a sign of success in
horary. By the time the transiting Sun hit his ascendant, the whole issue
had been put to rest. The Moon trines Jupiter, so even Bill’s wife Hilary
stuck by him, confounding his enemies. http://www.thespiritconnect.com/article-solarreturns.html

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posted November 14, 2010 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amazing tutorial! Thank you so much for that. Exactly what I wanted to know. Wow, doesn't sound quite so scary now. Thanks again!

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