posted November 18, 2010 09:12 AM              

THAT must be a very strange thing,to know that,isnt it?

im glad it was way back then,you had much more lifelines of being a good person,im sure of it.

posted November 18, 2010 09:35 AM            

natals
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me:

°Giza conjunct Briede (3)

° Sphinx opposing Hathor

° Tut opposing Spirit

° Amun conjunct NN,
opposing Imhotep and Kaali

°Aten conjunct Lucifer (3),
opposing Hathsepsut

° Isis conjunct Osiris conjunct Venus conjunct Spirit,

° Horus conjunct Echnaton conjunct Jupiter,

° Imhotep conjunct Kaali conjunct SN, opposing Amun

° Sekhmet conjunct Nofretete conjunct Caesar conjunct Sun conjunct King,
opposing Nessus

° Ubasti conjunct Moon,

° Tuthmosis conjunct Apophis conjunct Nemesis conjunct Ramses conjunct Adonis conjunct Union,

° Kleopatra conjunct Caesar

HIM:

° Giza conjunct Kaali conjunct Sun (4)

° Amun conjunct ASC conjunct Venus conjunct Lucifer (3) conjunct Briede

° Osiris conjunct Valentine
opposes Sun

° Horus conjunct Moon
opposing Caesar

° Imhotep conjunct Jupiter conjunct NN conjunct Destinn
opposing Nofretete

° Ptah
opposes Isis and King

° Isis conjunct King, opposing Ptah
trine Venus

° Sekhmet conjunct Mercury conjunct Karma
opposes Nessus

°Tuthmosis conjunct Caesar

° Nofretete conjunct SN
opposing Jupiter, Destinn, NN, Imhotep

° Echnaton opposes Nemesis

posted November 18, 2010 09:44 AM            

it was in one of these past life recalls I had as a youth; P was with me int his one, and we were running away from a cult, a Kaali cult, but not in ancient times, closer to the dark ages I think.
We were running away, because we didn`t want to continue doing what we did, plus we had witnessed something (a ritual) we better should not.
I don`t think we made it though.
(which reminds me that usually all my recalls of him and me, involved situation on life and death, in which we depended on each other for survival. weird.)

It was quite a crude and terrifying recall to have at 15 years actually. And it is the only one when I remember to have been male.

posted November 18, 2010 10:10 AM            

We seem to have made some similiar experiences in the Egyptian past life.

Lucifer was conjunct Aten/Amun for both of us. Well, these two asteroids represent the two main religions in Ancient Egypt.
Amun was the "traditional" one, worshipping many gods and goddesses. Echnaton then tried to force a new religion, a monotheism, onto his people, Aten - the Sun, worshipped under free sky of course.
After his death, Tutanchamun was influenced (well, he was 9 years old, how much did he decide personally?) to get back the old religion, Amun, again.

It seems that both of us had problems with the "public religion". Lucifer there might indicate that we were adversed to the current religion.
But we must have been standing on opposite sides.
Where my Lucifer conjuncts Aten, his conjuncts Amun.

Another shared aspect is:
we both have an Isis-Venus-aspect (conjunction and trine).

Imhotep is for both of us on the nodal axis; also in his chart Imhotep conjuncts Jupiter, in mine there is an exact Jupiter-square to Imhotep.
Makes me think of having been "intellectuals" back then, probably quite successful.

now in my chart Sekhmet conjunct King, in his chart Ptah opposes King.
Now, Sekhmet and Ptah were a divine couple. Not sure what it means that they are aspecting King in our chart. Maybe another hint onto some success or public notion back then?

But for both of us Sekhmet opposes Nessus, one degree orb.
Something must have gone really really wrong. Sekhmet also conjuncts my Sun, and in his chart it is conjunct his Karma, for both of us it is conjunct Mercury, which rules both our 7th house, and NEssus is placed IN 7th house.
Makes me think t hat there may have been warlike struggles in relation to relationships. For each of us. Nessus is in Gemini, Sekhmet in Sagittarius - so again a hint towards conflicts surrounding philosophy or religion. Hmm.

posted November 18, 2010 10:36 AM            

my Draco Lucifer: 26 Leo
my Draco Aten: 29 Leo

The Luminescence Of Dawn In The Eastern Sky
An Unsealed Letter

My Draco Aten is on Regulus.
Was I chief priest of the cult Echnation initialized? And then maybe "reclined"?

(what fascinates me is the fact that this opposes my Tropical Nefertiti on 28 Aquarius)

his Draco Lucifer: 21 Aquarius
his Draco Amun: 24 Aquarius
A Rug Is Placed On The Floor Of A Nursery To Allow Children To Play In Comfort And Warmth
(was he involved in the education of children?)

A Butterfly With The Right Wing More Perfectly Formed

(funny, his Draco Amun opposes my Draco Lucifer and tropical Nefertiti)

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my Draco Imhotep: 1 Libra
The Transmutation Of The Fruits Of Past Experiences Into The Seed-Realizations Of The Forever Creative Spirit

his Draco Imhotep: 1 Aries
A Comedian Reveals Human Nature

lol

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my Draco Sekhmet 17 Aries
An Empty Hammock Stretched Between Two Trees
(a lazy warrior Goddess ? )
my Draco King 16 ARies
Two Dignified Spinsters Sitting In Silence

(a warrior on holiday?)

his Draco Ptah on 26 Aries
his dRaco King on 26 Libra

Through Imagination A Lost Opportunity Is Regained

An Airplane Sails, High In The Clear Sky

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my Dr Sekhmet 17 ARies
my Dr Nessus 18 LIbra

A Gang Of Robbers In Hiding

(a deep fall after a maybe too quick rise?)

his Dr Sekhmet 4 Pisces
his Dr Nessus 4 Virgo(on my tr Akashi)
A Church Bazaar

A Man Becoming Aware Of Nature Spirits And Normally Unseen Spiritual Agencies

posted November 18, 2010 10:45 AM            

Well, his Dr Sekhmet conjuncts my tropical Echnaton on 7 PIsces (which conjuncts HOrus on 8 Pisces).

my Dr Sekhmet is conjuncts his Draco Tutanchamun on 20 Aries, which is EXACTLY conjunct my tropical Chiron!

Another intersting thing:

my Draco Amun is conjunct his Draco Imhotep, opposing my Draco Imhotep.
his Draco Aten conjuncts my tropical Imhotep.

my Draco Amun on 3 Aries
Two Lovers Strolling On A Secluded Walk

his Draco Imhotep on 1 aries
A Comedian Reveals Human Nature

my Draco Imhotep on 1 Libra
The Transmutation Of The Fruits Of Past Experiences Into The Seed-Realizations Of The Forever Creative Spirit

his Draco Aten and my Imhotep both on 11 Gemini
A Negro Girl Fights For Her Independence In The City

posted November 18, 2010 03:49 PM            

my Giza/Briede conjunct his IC/DNA/Chiron/Groom

my Amun/NN conjunct his Venus/ASC/Briede/Amun

my Venus/Isis/Osiris/Spirit conjunct his
Sun/Giza/Kaali

my HOrus/Echnaton conjunct his Nefertiti

my Imhotep/Kaali/SN conjunct his DESC

my Ubasti/Moon conjunct his Ptah/Akashi

my Tuthmosis/Ramses/Union conjunct his Moon/Horus

my Kleopatra conjunct his Karma/Sekhmet

his Nofretete conjunct my Saturn

his Anubis conjunct my DNA

"couple" aspects
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my Isis opposite his Osiris (Valentine)

my Ubasti conjunct his Ptah

my Echnaton conjunct his Nefertiti

my Kleopatra trine his Caesar

shared degrees
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my Giza and his Groom on 10 Aries
THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC, OR THE RULER OF ONE'S COUNTRY

my Amun and his Venus on 13 Sag
A VAST PANORAMA OF SAND AND TIME IS UNFOLDING; THE PYRAMIDS AND THE SPHINX IN THEIR GLORY RISE BEFORE THE EYE

my Isis - his Kaali on 8 Cap
AN ANGEL COMES CARRYING A HARP
Being in tune, spiritually. Pulling on the heartstrings. Redemption.

my Osiris - his Sun on 7 Cap
BIRDS IN THE HOUSE SINGING HAPPILY

my Tuthmoseis - his Moon on 26 Libra
AN AIRPLANE SAILS, HIGH IN THE BRIGHT CLEAR SKY

his Anubis - my DNA on 20 Libra
A CROWD UPON A BEACH
Simple gatherings and sharing in natural values. People getting loose and revealing their bodies. Relaxing social constraints

posted November 19, 2010 06:50 AM              

I loved specially your sabians together,the Amun/Venus and the anubis/dna and the isis/kaali...by your analisis makes sense that perhaps you had a rise and fall,probably cause you also had a rebellion instinct within you,to be truthfull to your own feelings and beliefs?

the giza/groom is interesting too,certainly you both had a union,and you could very well be two very important people to the people back then. i would see it as in the priestly environment,as like you said,perhaps it was all related to the Cult of Gods and Godesses.

Comica23

=) it s funny that you said that cause even yesteray i was looking at our photos along the times,and we are actually a bit different since we started dating 4years ago,but seems that we�re "aging" in similar ways.on our expressions.

i looked at our photos and we�re always alike each other,even if now we�re a different John and Ann,we both put up a bit of weight =P

posted November 19, 2010 07:34 AM              

well im suspicious to say it,but i also think we do seem "SM Material" but...we have the asc/sun cj and ive heard that often this means that the couple could look alike.

posted November 19, 2010 03:22 PM            

what do you think of this here?

posted November 19, 2010 03:47 PM            

°Caesar and Kleopatra had a famous affair

° Eros and Psyche: a soulmate pairing of course

° Tuthmosis and Hatshepsut: they were married: after Tuthomsis early death, Hatshepsut became pharao-queen and reigned quite successfully for a long time

° Ptah and Sekhmet: the goddesss Sekhmet (Bastet was her other form) was married to Ptah

° Isis and Osiris: divine husband and wife

° Horus and Hathor: Horus was the son of Isis and Osiris and married to Hathor

° Amenhotep and Nofretete: Amenhotep was the original name of Echnaton; pretty glamourous pharao and his queen; they were the first to have their family life publicly depicted. They are from the 18th dynastry, just like Thutmosis and Hathsepsut (I feel the strongest resonance with that timeframe). Tutanchamun was Amenhotep`s son.

And when I first saw Echnaton`s picture (of a statue), I cried, as I remember; though I was maybe 12 years old or so.

I found it very interesting that all these aspect each other in this composite:

Isis conjunct Osiris (2)

Amenhotep opposing Nofretete (0); actually Echnaton is on 2 Gemini squaring it

Horus trine Hathor (2)

Thutmosis conjunct Hathsepsut (0)

Eros oppospite Psyche (1)

Caesar conjunct Kleopatra (2)

Ptah conjunct Sekhmet (0)

I wonder how are the chances to have that many pretty tight aspects between "pairs", Egyptian mostly. Almost feels like every possible Egyptian couple (as far as the asteroids exist) are aspecting each other, mostly in conjunctions.

And they are even aspecting each other, like

Eros/Psyche - Tuthmosis/Hathsepsut - Caesar/Kleopatra - (Valentine/Pholus)

or

Amenhotep / Nofretete - Isis/Osiris

and

Ptah / Sekhmet - Horus / Hathor

They are all interconnected!

posted November 19, 2010 05:23 PM            

Anyway some sabians.

Sun on 21 Aquarius
A RUG PLACED ON A FLOOR FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY ON
Comfort and care provided for oneself and others. Longing for children. Issues of caring for young energies.

VESTA on 20 Pisces
A LITTLE WHITE LAMB, A CHILD AND A CHINESE SERVANT
Being protected by higher, more aware, energies. The privileges that money and social status can bring. Helpers, servants. Care, being watched over and watching over others.

GIZA on 21 Pisces
A PROPHET BRINGING DOWN THE NEW LAW FROM THE MOUNTAIN
Revelations and the channeling of new information. Truths being revealed. The Bible. The Koran. The Torah. The Ten Commandments. Laying down the law.

Pluto on 23 Virgo
MARY AND HER WHITE LAMB

JUNO and KAALI on 19 Aries
A YOUNG GIRL FEEDING BIRDS IN WINTER
Nurturing innocence. Feeding energy to situations that feel cold, hopeless and lost. Small efforts bringing their own rewards.

CERES and ANUBIS on 22 Aries
A WOMAN IN PASTEL COLORS CARRYING A HEAVY AND VALUABLE BUT VEILED LOAD
Privacy. Quiet determination to get on with the job. Carrying more than one's share, gratefully or grudgingly.

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MERLIN on 13 Aquarius
A TRAIN ENTERING A TUNNEL
Deep penetration. Cutting through extraneous or stifling detail. Persistence. Shortcuts to a desired end.

REIKI, SEKHMET and PTAH on 14 Aquarius
TWO LOVEBIRDS SITTING ON A FENCE AND SINGING HAPPILY
Faith in love or waiting for signs to commit. Friendship and companionship. Fences, borders and barriers.

ATLANTIS on 16 Aquarius
A WATCHDOG STANDING GUARD, PROTECTING HIS MASTER AND HIS POSSESSIONS
Guardianship. Things that stand and protect. Being on the alert against invasion or other trouble.

KING On 17 Aquarius
A MAN BEING UNMASKED AT A MASQUERADE
Secret motives being exposed. Having to face one's self. Coming to terms with judgment about one's true worth. Gaining true insight into someone.

DNA on 17 Virgo
TWO GIRLS PLAYING WITH A OUIJA BOARD
Immature curiosity that can lead to inner guidance. Seeking easy answers to avoid responsibility. People working together to find answers.

TUT on 17 Taurus
A WOMAN AIRING AN OLD BAG THROUGH A SUNNY WINDOW TO GIVE IT AIR AND SUNSHINE
Bringing air and light to a situation. Psychoanalysis. Past life regressions or memories.

HATHOR On 14 Leo
A PAGEANT MOVING ALONG A STREET PACKED WITH PEOPLE
Demonstrations of joy. Spectacular and dramatic show of solidarity of feelings or superficial display. Street festivals. Food and drink stalls. Big displays. Gaiety and spectacle.

HORUS On 12 Sag
A WIDOW'S PAST IS BROUGHT TO LIGHT
Unveiling and exposing - or creating a new and vibrant beginning. Getting rid of yesterday's darkness. Looking back to revision attitudes. Leaving oneself free for new opportunities.

NN on 13 Libra
IN THE HEAT OF THE NOON, A MAN TAKES A SIESTA
Meditation. Midday rushes. Hammocks. Long lunch hours. Working too hard.

SN on 13 Aries
A SERPENT COILING NEAR A MAN AND A WOMAN
Enticement. Allurement. The revelation of archetypal knowledge that may not be 'socially acceptable'.

NESSUS on 13 Gemini
TWO PEOPLE, AT WIDELY DIFFERENT POINTS, ARE IN CONVERSATION WITH EACH OTHER BY MEANS OF TELEPATHY
Conquering space and time limitations. Psychic and mental communication. Sharing the same ideas. The `other person' knowing what is felt or thought. Being on the same frequency.

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VALENTINE and PHOLUS on 26 Aquarius
AN ANCIENT POTTERY BOWL FILLED WITH FRESH VIOLETS
Returning to ancient sources. Flower and herbal remedies. Beauty. Setting standards for society. The mortar and pestle. Dainty, small and lacy things. Pottery bowls.

SATURN on 28 Aries
THE MUSIC OF THE SPHERES
Voices bringing messages. Music, harmonies, chords, keys, octaves. Circadian rhythms. Days of the week. The planets speaking through or to you.

KARMA on 26 Taurus
AN OLD INDIAN WOMAN SELLING BEADS AND TRINKETS
Older, wiser elements of society making offerings to the younger, less integrated. Small, but worthy offerings. Handicrafts. Artifacts of the tribe or clan.

EROS on 29 Taurus
A PEACOCK PARADING ITS SPLENDOR ON THE TERRACE OF AN OLD CASTLE

PSYCHE on 28 Scorpio
AN INDIAN WOMAN PLEADING TO THE CHIEF FOR THE LIVES OF HER CHILDREN

NEPTUNE on 26 Scorpio
A MILITARY BAND MARCHES NOISILY ON THROUGH THE CITY STREETS
Noisy announcements. Making music to rouse people from complacency. Demanding attention.

THUTMOSIS and HATHSEPSUT On 27 Leo
MANY LITTLE BIRDS ON THE LIMB OF A LARGE TREE
Gathering with people of like mind. Sharing ideas.
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ISIS On 4 Scorpio
A MASSIVE, ROCKY SHORE RESISTS THE POUNDING OF THE SEA
Relentless, unchanging reality. The establishment. Feeling battered and bruised.

OSIRIS and ANGEL on 2 Scorpio
NEIGHBORS HELP IN A HOUSE-RAISING PARTY IN A SMALL VILLAGE
Cooperation. Parties. Having to consider the needs of lots of people. Dormitories. Building bigger and better things.

SOMA on 5 Cap
TEN LOGS LIE UNDER AN ARCHWAY LEADING TO DARKER WOODS
Preparation for paths unknown. Getting past the past. Tenacity, stamina and energy preservation. Things to consider before moving deeper.

Jupiter on 6 Pisces
ILLUMINATED BY A SHAFT OF LIGHT, A LARGE CROSS LIES ON ROCKS SURROUNDED BY SEA AND MIST
Renewed dedication after loss. Looking for signs of recovery and hope. Coming to terms with loss or failure. Important and substantial sacrifices.

NOFRETETE on 4 Pisces
A CHURCH BAZAAR
Exchanges of spiritual knowledge. Overcoming loneliness and alienation. Selling things and the issue of their real worth. The collection plate. Bric-a-brac. Bargains. Pooling efforts.

AMENHOTEP on 5 Virgo
A MERRY-GO-ROUND
Ever repeating circles of activity. Motion sickness. Habits that are hard to break. Getting on, then wanting off. Getting off, then wanting on.

Moon on 3 Aries
TWO LOVERS ARE STROLLING THROUGH A SECLUDED WALK
Walking love's path. Secret love affairs. Being undisturbed. Being by one's self and wondering where the 'other' is.

posted November 22, 2010 07:37 AM              

i also think that its impressive that so much pairs are directly conected in your charts.

perhaps in most of your lifetimes you were romantic couples? and your most "special" ones were in Egypth?

vesta there makes me think of once again,richnesses,but somehow you were also providers of the people.

i love the seckmeth/pthat and reiki sabian

posted November 22, 2010 07:50 AM            

amazingly, gobsmackingly impressive to have all these egyptian pairs in close aspect.

posted November 22, 2010 09:01 AM            

yes I arrived at a similiar conclusion,t hat we probably have been a romantic couple in Egypt. More than just romantic probably.

But the curious thing is I feel so much resonance to the 18th dynasty (Amenhotep/Echnaton, Nofretete / Nefertiti and with a bit less intensity Tutanchamun), but if you read my mail on my natal - Draco comparision of the pertaining asteroids, his name didn`t appear.

His name actually is on 11 Aquarius in my chart conjunct Pallas, Hera and Draco DNA and opposing Draco Chiron and his Draco Name is on 1 Gemini opposing my Amor, but there is no strong link to any of my Egpytian asteroids.
So even though the pallas/DNA/chiron-name linkup indicates a strong connection (his Pallas and Hera also conjunct my Chiron; his DNA opposes my pallas, his name in my chart, my Hera and Draco DNA), it doesn`t seem so strong in relation to the Egyptian one. At least not as far as his name in my chart goes.

The other two on the other hand have a pretty strong link to Amenhotep (their Draco names in my chart, with one of the names being on the beginning of Aries, which I find pretty significant - relating to a beginning of this current cycle, starting in Egypt?); and one of the men additionally has a name which conjuncts my Tutanchammun, though rather widish at 3 degrees.

EDIT:
It`s interesting though that his name in my chart is squaring hatshepsut.
In one of the other`s guys his name in the other`s chart is opposing Hatsepsut.
And in the third`s guy´s chart his name is opposing Tuthmosis.

So maybe he is more linked to the Tuthmosis / Hathsepsut scenario?

posted November 22, 2010 09:16 AM            

your composite aspects probably place you (as a couple) into that timeperiod in Egypt, too.

posted November 22, 2010 09:21 AM            

first of all there is an emphasis on nurturing and caring.
There are strong romantic or souloriented hints,b ut there is also the mentioneing of past hurt / wounds and the need for a newbeginning.
PLUS the NN-Sabian (the siesta-one) seems to tell me that, there may be a "break" needed in the relationship-story-evolvement.
The SN-Sabian "the Kundalini-one" seems to be so intense,t hat now in thsi incarnation we maybe are taking a "breather" from each other.
The reason for the need to have that break, would be indicated by tight conjunctions tot he SN, I guess.