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Topic: so, what do YOU think true love is?
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seeleah Knowflake Posts: 408 From: kokomo, IN, USA Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 18, 2010 08:57 PM
I guess with the venus retrograding, it made me realize how much healing I need in this particular area..she really beat me down, and I realize that it doesn't matter who I am with, I will play these patterns out again and again until I heal, and when I heal I will get it right. So, I am asking myself this right now, what is real love? I thought I knew, but I don't know anymore. I am open to suggestions.IP: Logged |
ladybates Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 18, 2010 09:02 PM
Good question! I was hit pretty hard with this retrograde as well. I guess love is really being there for someone no matter what. You can see them at their worst, and it doesn't matter. Loyalty=love at least for me..IP: Logged |
Purple unregistered
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posted November 18, 2010 09:11 PM
I think true love is something you feel for your own child as a mother. I am unsure of whether men have the same capacity to feel the deep emotions a woman would feel for their offspring. I believe that men may have a protective instinct and love their child even though they take a backseat role "mostly" because mums do evertyhing. In regards to relationships I think we feel deep lust and sexual desires to other people and sometimes even very pure thoughts of the emotion we call love without the physical side to it, sometimes we are merely able to bounce along without any desire to be with that person.
I don't think this is love. I don't think love lasts forever. I think we love many people throughout our lives but none compare to family. Mostly people believe they "love" someone simply because they can't have that somebody after they have evoked sexual desire in them. I fall in love with everything and everyone all the time I never expect it to be forever and couldn't cre less when it ends because I'm always expecting another great experience to come along. None of them stay imprinted in my mind or heart forever so therefore I have come up with the conclusion that either love is NOT forever or it does not exist between couples who have a sexual role with each other. I have cancer sun, mars and mercury, venus in leo and moon in gemini.
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letram Knowflake Posts: 941 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2010 09:37 PM
love is universal i have learned.you see, we all have the very bare basic of what love is to us all, but love is is not the same for everyone. everyone loves with things and needs to be loved back the same or similar way or a way that although done differently, brings the same result. for exmaple, some people feel they are in love when they are able to love someone no matter how bad they are to them or no matter what they do wrong. everyone has a different ideal of what love is. some people need emotion. me, for example, doesn't need emotional feelyness much. what i need is a mental connection. i don't need strong lust or physical attraction. i need to be loved with Honesty and for the person to be real, and open with me, to be as intimate and united as possible mentally. to sahre everything with eachother. i need loyalty. i need time with my lover, i need them to make alot of time for me, i need us to thrive in time so our companionship takes on a life of its own above everything else nearly. some people need ALOT of attention and no space. some people need space a little, some need it ALOT. point is, we all need and love in different ways. true love to one brings out in a person the ways they want to love thoroughly, and will feel the person they love, loves them if they love them closely enough in the same way. IP: Logged |
Purple unregistered
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posted November 18, 2010 10:10 PM
Letram what are your sun moon and venus mars placements?IP: Logged |
letram Knowflake Posts: 941 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2010 10:35 PM
i like making people guess.IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1057 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 12:45 AM
Seelah, I actually got a energy healing during Venus RX and was told that I had been holding a lot negative energy in relation to men and my father. It makes sense why I've never been able to establish a lasting romantic relationship with the opposite sex because of this. So I've yet to know what true love is, except that it must be mutual. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 5733 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 19, 2010 07:03 AM
quote: i like making people guess.
------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Purple unregistered
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posted November 19, 2010 07:12 AM
Ohhhh I love guessing Scorpio? Gemini?
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mir Knowflake Posts: 439 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 08:29 AM
quote: I guess love is really being there for someone no matter what. You can see them at their worst, and it doesn't matter
Well, I think it DOES matter and that's what makes things so very hard. Seeing them at their worst makes you feel insecure, not worthy enough, makes you start fighting etc. So, to OVERCOME all that sh*t over and over again for a long *time* .... (sh!t FEELS like sh!t you know) Time must be the clue, probably you can say what true love is only after many many years of experience, even till the point that you didn't realize this (only) WAS love. Love isn't very romantic to me, I know IP: Logged |
Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 692 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 08:57 AM
Unconditional acceptance and love......I'm sure there is another way I could phrase it better. But it is not coming to me now...too early in the morning to be thinking about stuff here.IP: Logged |
letram Knowflake Posts: 941 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 09:15 AM
Nopeeee.i can see why you pick up on gemini. IP: Logged |
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posted November 19, 2010 09:24 AM
Loving someone is having the same feelings a healthy person might have with regard to their own life, but feeling them for someone else. i.e, feeling their pain, or joy, and wanting with every bit of will you have for that person(s) to have everything go right, AND (this is the important classification) being emotionally attached to their life outcomes (regardless of personal gain). Vicariously living their emotional life whether with them or apart. Whereas infatuation differs. I get infatuated easily having Mars in Scorpio in the 5th. Some trite astrological writings often say something like 'Mars in the 5th - falls in love quickly and easily'. Which is part true, but more true of infatuation than love. Love can be, and is, as instantaneous as the switching into a persons shoes and feeling what it is like to be them on every level. I 'love' this older Scorpio women who is like a mother to me, but i'm not attracted to her. And similarly i might, and indeed have felt intantaneous infaftuation with other females, which you could say is more based on infatuation. I find it hard to differentiate sometimes because the feelings are so quick and strong. Is the right appearance, and a great mind, and compatable personaility 'enough'. My body and mind tell me yes, but is that love? Perhaps love has more than one component, or perhaps love varies more by degree than by kind. To dichotomise love from infatuation, one might say that infatuation is a self-interested construct, whereas love is a self-disinterested construct. ------------------ Lack of Earth - Lack of bu11shit.IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 2875 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 19, 2010 09:30 AM
"True Love" would include friendship and sexual attraction, being of service to your partner; helping them, being sensitive to their needs and wants.I think that synastry between friendship, sexual attraction, honesty, and assistance would be true love. IP: Logged |
letram Knowflake Posts: 941 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 09:48 AM
To dichotomise love from infatuation, one might say that infatuation is a self-interested construct, whereas love is a self-disinterested construct.i agree. i think infatuation is infatuation. love goes by degree, the more infatuated reasons there is, in a non-making sense kind of way means its more impersonal, (if some other person had the same things baout them for you to be infatuated with) whereas the rest of what you feel is real love is the most Personal because there is less "listed reasons" for infatuation, but more that it is Them that you love. (that specific person). thats probably really confusing and makes little sense but oh well, that one i will keep inside on my own lol PlutoSquared, i believe we have the same ASC, and i agree with you totally. and about the friendship part. i always strive for them to be able to be a very good, if not best friend.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 5733 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 19, 2010 10:09 AM
We have one word in our language--Love. In the Greek, there are many words for love .There is philios(friendship love) Eros(erotic love) Agape love(unselfish love) I will have to look this up cuz I may be missing one ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
angel100 Knowflake Posts: 240 From: Ireland Registered: Nov 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 04:25 PM
Someone once said to me that love is "what you are prepared to do for another person without getting anything in return"...that really stuck with me.IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 1987 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 04:46 PM
Sometimes I love everything, the life, the people, my friends, my children, a man, my job. Sometimes I feel me so completely full of love.....IP: Logged |
joyrjw Knowflake Posts: 276 From: El Cajon,California, USA Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 20, 2010 06:12 PM
Real Love comes in many different forms in many different ways, it's complex and simple all at once. The way I express real love and the way you express real love may be completely different. What it feels like for me to really love someone... I feel within myself a deep,warm,sunshine-like,glow that feels like it radiates from the very center of my soul. I want to do things for them that make them happy. I want to share myself and my life with them. I want to share who they are and what they enjoy with them. I want us to share in things that make us both happy together at the same time.....There's more than that,but sometimes thoughts and feelings that come from love are difficult to articulate because it's not what we might consider a physical thing....Though there's the possibility of it being expressed physically. I hope this helps. :-) IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2550 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted November 20, 2010 06:19 PM
It is pain and happiness coupled together.IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 06:34 PM
This is just my opinion, but I think that overly beautiful explanations of what love is are a bit overrated sometimes, and can often give a wrong idea.With a stellium in the 8th house, and a Pisces DC, I've always dreamed of the perfect love and connection before I have a relationship. I don't know how to explain it by words, but I just feel that I'm able to understand it bit by bit intuitively through these years. I think that love is the affection that is developed through time. It's not the same as simple attraction or obsession. It's that affection that one feels for another even if the other is not perfect. It's that affection one feels for another for who they are. And affection for all the things we shared and share too. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2550 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted November 20, 2010 06:35 PM
True love is never selfish either...IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 414 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 20, 2010 06:43 PM
Love = A force of nature.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 414 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 20, 2010 06:43 PM
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enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 198 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 07:08 PM
Love happens in the moment, where in the moment you see beyond the other person, beyond their face, body etc. All you see is their soul: a collection of experiences, emotions, thoughts, and you are able to blend it with your own. IP: Logged |