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Topic: Solar Return experiment/theory...???
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electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 07:56 PM
So I'm testing out a new(?) theory on Solar Returns that focuses on house placement. This requires looking at both your Solar Return and your Natal Chart.Look at the house placement of SR planets. Then look at what house they ruler in your Natal chart. Then see how the house placement of the planets in the SR chart affect/relate to the houses they ruler in the Natal chart--almost like one way synastry between the SR and the Natal. I'll do my for the Sun and the moon of 2010 then predictions for 2011. Either post your interpretations for you SR charts or post the placements and I'll try to come up with an interpretation and you can tell me if it is true. 2010 SR Sun in the SR 10th house. Sun rules SR 8th house This year I met an investor who invested in a creative project of mine. This has helped propel my career in so many ways! A very positive experience. His investment was definitely the catalyst for all of the career growth and success I've experienced this year. Skyviewzone.com says about 8th house ruler in 10th house... "There is a connection between other people's money and your career." SR Moon in SR 6th house in Scorpio. Moon rules Natal 7th house Met a new love interest. He is a Scorpio. He has been such a healing influence in my life. He has helped heal some deep psychological and emotional wounds. His presence and efforts have been helping me get to the bottom of and heal a long-time chronic illness (which is related to the psychological and emotional wounds). I do kind of live with him in a strange way. Also, I have very much become involved in his day to day routine AND have been acting as his secretary for his business. Skyviewzone.com says "A close friend or your spouse could become a coworker or even an employee in some regard. You may meet your marriage partner in your work environment. Your need for supportive relationships may be fulfilled at work or connected in some way to the work you do." this actually works for all of the other planets in the SR chart too. --- 2011 (predictions) SR Sun in SR 6th house (very tightly conjunct mars). Rules Natal 8th house. Hmmm... This one is tough. its easier to do in retrospect. But, I'll give it a try. Following last years Moon in the 6th placement, perhaps I'll be working for an intimate partner. Or, my day to day routine will somehow be affected by either an intimate partners financial situation, a death/inheritance, or more investment. SR Mars rules the Natal 4th house (and is conjunct the SR Sun), so perhaps changes in my family or home environment will affect my day to day routine....This one is ummm very interesting. Skyviewzone.com says about 8th in 6th "Sleep plays an important role in your health both physically and mentally. You need to have some control over the work you do, or perhaps even your coworkers. and employees." I could see how overworking could make this true. SR Moon in SR 8th House in Pisces. Rules Natal 7th House This kind of mirrors the SR Sun's placement. Ok. I feel like the changes that this placement evokes will have to do with changes in an intimate partner's life. Perhaps being financially supported by or supporting an intimate partner. This is interesting... Skyviewzone.com says about ruler of 7th in 8th "Other people will support your goals either financially or by lending moral support...You can counsel other people regarding their finances. Your attitude towards marriage may undergo a change and a partner can represent a total change of lifestyle for you. You may marry based on an overwhelming sexual attraction to someone. You could actually form a deep intimate bond with someone who feels like a soulmate..." ---- OK
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winter Knowflake Posts: 153 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 09:36 PM
You’re welcome to take a crack at mine if you like:2010 SR Sun is exactly on the SR 8th house cusp – natal Sun ruled house is intercepted in my 4th. SR Moon in SR 5th –Moon rules natal 4th house.
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electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 09:49 PM
quote: 2010 SR Sun is exactly on the SR 8th house cusp – natal Sun ruled house is intercepted in my 4th.SR Moon in SR 5th –Moon rules natal 4th house.
does your chart show the symbol for the sun in the 7th or 8th? IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 09:58 PM
quote: SR Moon in SR 5th -Moon rules natal 4th house.
this so smells of pregnancy or children around the home. or more fun and creativity around the home. moving in with a boyfriend/lover. what is the sign of the SR moon? IP: Logged |
winter Knowflake Posts: 153 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 10:17 PM
quote: does your chart show the symbol for the sun in the 7th or 8th?
My SR Sun is 12° Cancer and the SR 8th cusp is 12° so it’s precisely conjunct. I think if a planet in the SR is within a few degrees of a house cusp it is to be read as in the next house. SR Moon is in Aries (which rules my natal asc) IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 2321 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2010 10:34 PM
2009 SR Sun in SR 1st house. Rules natal 8th.SR Moon in SR 10th house in Taurus. Rules natal 7th. 2010 SR Sun in SR 11th house. Rules natal 8th. SR Moon in Libra in SR 1st house. Rules natal 7th. 2011 SR Sun in SR 8th house. Rules natal 8th. SR Moon in SR 2nd house in Pisces. Rules natal 7th. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1956 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 08:36 AM
I'd like to give one or two a try if you don't mind. -SR Moon in Libra in SR 9th House. Moon is the ruler of Natal 7th house -SR Venus in Virgo in the 8th. Venus is the ruler of the natal 5th and 10th.
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rajin Knowflake Posts: 480 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 09:16 AM
Hey electric mind, Would you take a crack at my SRplease? Got my birthday coming up on monday the 22nd. Using birthplace as my ref place:SR sun in 3d house, rules 6th house in natal. SR moon in 9th house, moon rules 5th house in natal. Using current area of residence as my ref place for SR= SR sun in 8th house, rules 6th house in natal. SR moon in 2nd house rules 5th in natal. Moon has just changes houses it is at 0 degrees. Thanks
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electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 11:26 AM
@Lucia23 quote: 2009 SR Sun in SR 1st house. Rules natal 8th.SR Moon in SR 10th house in Taurus. Rules natal 7th.
SUN Were you/are you going through a pluto transit to your sun or ascendant/12th house? How has shared resources or intimate experiences effected how you came off or approached life this year? Did you have transformative experiences or "drama" with an intimate partner? How did your experiences with an intimate bring about change in the way that you approached life? I had SR sun in the first in 09, also ruler of the 8th. and a woman i worked with became like a mentor and really helped me change my perspective on how to go about the success i desired in my career. then i later met a guy with whom i thought i would be lovers but he ended up funding part of a creative project. def 8th house/other peoples money. MOON Marriage. Or a new business partnership. Consummating a business or romantic partnership. Partnership/relationship being made public. Lover becoming a business partner or helping with career. Needing financial stability in your career to feel safe and secure. quote: 2010 SR Sun in SR 11th house. Rules natal 8th.SR Moon in Libra in SR 1st house. Rules natal 7th.
Hmmm... Your interaction with groups of people being a catalyst for change in your life. Finding support for changes through groups of people/friends. Your self expression is affected by the people you interact with. You being before the public in some way. A partnership or relationships being at the forefront of how you approach life. Doing things to primarily to maintain partnership. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 11:35 AM
@Benedict Moon* quote: -SR Moon in Libra in SR 9th House. Moon is the ruler of Natal 7th house -SR Venus in Virgo in the 8th. Venus is the ruler of the natal 5th and 10th.
whew! all these cappy risings. i knew we were in here somewhere. A relationships or partnership being the place in which you experience growth or changes/shifts in your belief system. Being attracted to a foreigner. Moving for to be closer to a partner. Transformative and fun intimate sexual experience. Working with other people's money, or the resources of other people being a part of your work. Going through a career change. Transforming how you view your career. Children changing your financial situation. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 11:42 AM
@rajin quote: Using birthplace as my ref place:SR sun in 3d house, rules 6th house in natal. SR moon in 9th house, moon rules 5th house in natal.
SUN Small changes that upset your daily routine. Writing or traveling short distances for work. Changing jobs frequently. Mental confusion or over thinking causing illness. Working for or with siblings. MOON Traveling for fun. Romance with someone from a different culture. Going to school for something creative. Teaching. IP: Logged |
rajin Knowflake Posts: 480 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 11:57 AM
Thanks electric mind. Will someone from your own country but now a citizen of another count as "romance with someone from another culture"?
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electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 12:05 PM
I think so.IP: Logged |
rajin Knowflake Posts: 480 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 12:23 PM
Thanks electric mind. I have this very tentative relationship with a guy, long story with a lot of history. We seem to not live with each other and not live without each other. He is back again and I am hoping this will lead to a more permanent relationship. His SR sun and moon are as follows:SR sun in 6th house rules 4th house in natal. SR moon in 3rd house, rules 2nd and 3rd house in natal. anything in his SR says it will match my SR predictions or have the same goals? thanks. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 2321 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 01:36 PM
Yes! In 2009-2010, I had tPluto headed towards my ASC. In May 2010, I fell in love, and the relationship was so different from every relationship before. It made me look at the world and my future life experiences very differently.In 2010-2011 so far (my SR is August 14)--the man I fell in love with left me, at the end of September. It has led to a lot of trying to make significant changes in myself...also to reevaluating who I am close to and why. I've had a lot of new realizations about which friends to move forward with. What you say about making "maintaining partnership" central is very true, even though I'm alone now...I made the vow last month to turn myself into a person who he wouldn't have wanted to leave, and more importantly, turn myself into a person *I* wouldn't want to leave. If I'd been REALLY my true self and he'd left anyway, I would feel differently about the ending. I am normally somewhat in the public eye (I'm a writer), but we'll see what happens in the rest of the year--maybe more publicity? I also wonder whether I'll be alone all year. Thanks for your insights! I think it's a really good system. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted November 20, 2010 01:43 PM
I've had a big year so far so you are welcome to look at mine as i'd be interested to know what you see my SR sun in SR 8th house ruled by taurus. Taurus rules my 10th house in natal. My n sun ruler rules my AC. my SR moon in SR 1st house cj AC and ruled by Libra! Libra rules my 3rd house in natal my moon ruler rules no houses. It's between 11th and 12th. lol so venus rules my SR sun and moon. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1956 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 02:34 PM
quote: whew! all these cappy risings. i knew we were in here somewhere.A relationships or partnership being the place in which you experience growth or changes/shifts in your belief system. Being attracted to a foreigner. Moving for to be closer to a partner. Transformative and fun intimate sexual experience. Working with other people's money, or the resources of other people being a part of your work. Going through a career change. Transforming how you view your career. Children changing your financial situation.
Yeah, there's always been alot of us Goat Risers around here...hehe.
Dammit, I want the hot foreigner to show up on my doorstep! I WANT HIM I WANT HIM I WANT HIM! *stamps feet* I'll tell you if it happens. The last part seems very likely seeing that all my romantic prospects are nowhere near where I live. I wish the first part of Venus in the 8th was true. *sigh* I am most definitely going through a transition in my career. Not a complete 180, but I'm basically 'upgrading'. Re: children....Oh noz. A bunch of people around me is preggos or has had a kid so I keep having a nagging feeling I'm next. Here's to hoping its with someone stable. Ugh.
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electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 03:04 PM
@Lucia23 Before I realized you were a cappy ascendant, I had noticed how 8th house themes by planetary placements etc show up in the solar return as a reflection of the transit of Pluto to a point or planet. For example, I had SR sun in the first house ruling SR 8th the year Pluto got right on my ascendant the first time.Pluto is finally exacting its square to my Natal moon and I have SR Moon in Pisces in the 8th house. With Jupiter AND Uranus in the 8th House. And I'll also have Jupiter and Uranus conjunct my moon as well during this SR cycle. This is quite an interesting method. I'm glad it works. Makes me kinda nervous for my own SR that is moving into effect now. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 03:06 PM
@Benedict Moon*Let me know how those things go! Good luck on the foreigner My 9th house themes in SR charts have had a lot the transformation or change in my belief system. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 776 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 03:09 PM
@Lara quote: my SR sun in SR 8th house ruled by taurus. Taurus rules my 10th house in natal. My n sun ruler rules my AC. my SR moon in SR 1st house cj AC and ruled by Libra! Libra rules my 3rd house in natal my moon ruler rules no houses. It's between 11th and 12th. lol so venus rules my SR sun and moon.
I'm confused about what house rulers your are saying. Where is Leo in your natal chart? Where is Cancer? IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 1314 From: Down the Rabbit Hole Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 04:18 PM
Hi, Would you mind taking a crack at one or two of mine? I'm fairly new into mine and I've got an inkling on where it's headed but I'm wondering on if you'd agree. SR Venus in the 8th. Natal Venus is the ruler of the 8th house. SR Moon in the 11th house. Natal Moon is the ruler of the 5th and 6th houses (Cancer is duplicated). Thanks! IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 2858 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 04:20 PM
I'll have a look at mine later on. IP: Logged |
cooljen Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2010 04:24 PM
I'd like to try...Natal Sun rules my 10th house SR Sun is in my 5th Natal Moon rules my 9th house SR Sun in my 12th (conjunct Asc) Natal Uranus rules 4th SR Uranus conjunct Jupiter (ruler of natal 2nd) in the 12th Natal Pluto rules 1st SR Pluto in 9th (widely conjunct MC by 7deg) Natal Venus rules 7th & 12th SR Venus in 6th conjunct Mars (ruler of natal 6th) & Saturn (ruler of natal 3rd) Natal Mercury rules 8th & 11th SR Mercury in 6th (conjunct cusp) Natal Neptune rules 5th SR Neptune in 11th ...Its probably easier to just post the SR chart and list what each planet rules in the natal IP: Logged |