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Diana
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posted November 19, 2010 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message

Today it happened at 11:53 am (est) and 4:18 pm(est), respectively. I wonder who noticed the shift in energy? Everything will start to come out now, if it hasn’t already, and people will finally deal with all the muck these retrogrades, especially the Venus one, brought up. Energy will be released from people, maybe in a brash and inconsiderate way, since we have both mercury and mars in Sagittarius.

It is interesting to me that both planets turned direct within hours of one another. Both planets are considered “benefics” which means they are considered a good and gracious influence, and they’ve both been going backwards lately, turning our love lives, finances, and worlds upside down. So, there’s been quite a shift, but they’re still moving slowly and they’re still traversing the degrees they retrograded, so all of the muck that was brought up during both retrogrades is being covered — again! We’re not quite out of the woods yet, but things are moving in the right direction now. What this means is that we are going to be back in late September in regards to the issues that Venus brought up with her retrograde station and look back to the end of June for Jupiter. Those issues will be be in your world again so you can tie up loose ends. We will finally clear all of that ground on December 21 for venus and January 23rd for Jupiter. THEN it will be over. You might want to hold off on getting a new hairstyle or anything venus-related until after venus passes the station degree.

Aside from the running theme of relationships, we have a theme in these charts of directness versus diplomacy. We have the moon in blunt aries and mercury and mars in Sagittarius while we have venus and saturn in Libra. Adding to this theme is venus quincunx, which means at odds with, uranus, who wants to be a rebel and say what he wants to say. We know venus in libra doesn’t want this, she wants peace at all costs. So it’s a tenuous and fine line we’re walking.

Adding to all of that, the sun, pluto, North Node, and venus all disposit to libra while the rest of the planets — yes, the rest of the planets — all disposit to neptune and uranus, who are in mutual reception, which means they act like they are related to each other. So, we’re going to have people either being very diplomatic so as not to disturb the peace or people saying whatever they want to without thinking first (sagittarius and uranus) and being evasive or deceptive on top if it all (neptune)! People will confuse the hell outta’ you, because some will act out ALL of these tactics in short shrift and almost seem bipolar. Which reminds me, if you or someone you know is bipolar, look for the next few weeks to be a flare-up for them.

I still think people are going to be putting on a facade with all of this energy, especially all the neptune influences going on right now, so be alert for deception and lies and people pretending to be someone they aren’t. Make sure that new romantic interest (or ex who returned with the retrograde) is REALLY single. Take things slowly.

The good news is that neptune and uranus can bring about healing. Also good news is that the planets in sag will expose frauds and so will jupiter turning direct. Jupiter hates a liar. People will mess up, blurt out, and other blunders-that-get-people-caught actions.

We should be starting to see the effects of the new moon I wrote about. It will culminate at the full moon this weekend. I’m starting to see news stories reflecting what I wrote. The family murdered, just so a sick psychopath could “have” a 13 year old girl struck me as apropos. So did the PR agent in Hollywood tragically murdered after a movie premiere. Both worthy of Lifetime Movies. I wish I had been wrong.

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The Duke
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posted November 19, 2010 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
who wrote this? also, saturn was the traditional ruler of aquarius with uranus being it's night ruler so i dunno.. maybe that helps. pisces was naturally ruled by jupiter and has night rulership under neptune..

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Lucia23
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posted November 19, 2010 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for these great insights, Diana!

Question: do you think the going direct works the same way for people with Rx Venus or Jupiter natally?

I have a natal Jupiter Rx, and I used to believe that I was luckiest during transiting Jupiter Rx periods...but, uggghhh, these last few months have been really crappy for me. So I don't know.

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posted November 19, 2010 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
lucia i actually read that when a planet is retro natally, you have a MUCH easier time with it when it happens for everyone else because you're used to it.. it's as if everybody is playing on your terms. i don't know so much about it goin direct though.. i have neptune retrograde nally and seem to experience the same thing you described only i can't always catch it unless it's afterwards or when it is actually potent.. i dunno.

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posted November 19, 2010 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
Thank goodness....

Because I have been one broke frizzy head blonde, with 7 nails..

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posted November 19, 2010 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, that makes sense...so it's not that it's wonderful for me when Jupiter goes Rx, it's just that it's less horrid than it is for people who have happy, forward-moving, natal Jupiters.

I've got Neptune Rx natally, too.

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posted November 19, 2010 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Lucia,

I'm not sure I believe that having a planet rx natally makes it easier. I think it's more how the energy of the current rx works in general and also how it works with your chart.

Duke,

That doesn't change anything, imo.

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posted November 19, 2010 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Well, the last few months were definitely really hard. I lost someone I love a lot--to him breaking up with me, not to him dying or anything, so I don't know why I'm taking it so hard. But I am taking it hard.

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posted November 19, 2010 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
Very insightful Diana. Thanks.

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posted November 19, 2010 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
well if you're taking into account mutual reception, i think that it does.. to each his own.

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Diana
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posted November 19, 2010 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Lucia,

Maybe it was the venus rx and not the jupiter rx for you. Where is venus in your chart?

Duke,

I think it would be redundant to bring it up, but thanks for the suggestion.

T,

you're welcome.

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posted November 19, 2010 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I had a very profound Venus Retro. My ASC is 12 Scorpio.
My Gemini Venus is unaspected .
I feel like it came up from where it was buried and became accessible to me, like I "met" it.
I could cry cuz I have been so unknown to myself.
I have Gem Sun, Gem Merc and Cancer moon in the 8th house.
The 8th house causes delayed maturation in planets.
IOW, your ego(Sun), Mind,(Merc) and emotions(moon) will be delayed in their maturity.
I can attest to this,unfortunately lol

It is true, I could not grasp who I was , my sense of a discrete , separate self.


This Venus Retro gave me my Venus back.
I met her.
I like her.
A piece of myself clicked in.
It is very profound.
I could cry

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posted November 19, 2010 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
Venus went rx on my 7th house Neptune and turned direct on my DC.
I’m still dealing with my relationship breakup from earlier on this year so I’m hopeful with the direct motion I can get these freaking Neptune ‘foggles’ off and let it go.

Within hours of the direct motion I was in getting a new ‘do’. Too impatient to wait for the shadow period to pass. Had a color done, some long layers cut in which I really like – they ballsed up my fringe but that’s par for the course no matter which direction Venus is traveling!

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We should be starting to see the effects of the new moon I wrote about. It will culminate at the full moon this weekend. I’m starting to see news stories reflecting what I wrote. The family murdered, just so a sick psychopath could “have” a 13 year old girl struck me as apropos.

Sadly something similar occurred last week not too far from where I live. A husband, wife and 16yr old daughter murdered. An 18yr old male has been arrested, possible motive of unrequited love. Terribly sad for the surviving son.

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posted November 19, 2010 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

That whole thing you wrote fits venus rx through the 12th perfectly!

Winter,

I am also getting my hair done soon, I think. If someone is a stickler, they will wait, but since I finally figured out what I'll be doing with mine, I am going for it. Why do they always mess up fringe? Wth? It seems so easy.


Sad to hear about that family.

I have to write about the FM. I already looked at the chart last night. I'll be happy when this new moon is resolved at the next new moon. Wicked energy.

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posted November 19, 2010 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Please explain more ,Diana. I REALLY value your insight.
Details ,darlink

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posted November 19, 2010 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Well, you went into the buried issues in your 12th house and delved into things that were darkened for you.

It seems the venus rx, in your 12th, brought out all you had glossed over and avoided, and made you stare it down and finally accept it and see it for the first time. Very 12th house, very scorpio, and very anti-neptune,which rules the 12th.

You also had the new moon in your 7th of relationships, with natural ruler venus and will have the full moon in your 1st of self.

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posted November 19, 2010 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Diana
I have Neptune IN the 12th in the natal, how would this fit in?
Thank you so much for your profound insights.

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posted November 19, 2010 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
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posted November 19, 2010 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
I actually feel worn out lately...

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posted November 19, 2010 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
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Energy will be released from people, maybe in a brash and inconsiderate way, since we have both mercury and mars in Sagittarius.

Yes! That part you quoted from MVM, in the Duke's thread, had been directed at me (I think); something I'd posted and instantly regretted, but didn't get to delete in time. I hadn't actually wanted to be rude, I was just feeling very crabby and impatient. Both of them are trine my MC, so it fits.

The past few days, I felt great (although I'd been practicing some avoidance - Venus is back in my 12th, and a certain someone's 3rd, and we communicated again, here and there. He wanted to resolve things, but it just isn't going to happen right away for me. Either things will improve a little when Venus moves back into my 1st and his 4th, or we'll be severing ties completely (something that obviously hasn't happened so far).

I'm so tired of feeling crummy - something that started for me when I had Venus Rx in my Solar Return last year, plus Mars going Rx last December.

I haven't read the rest of this yet, that bit about Mars and Mercury was something that came to mind for me after I'd posted earlier on.

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posted November 20, 2010 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Teasel
Just a thought. I have heard your attachment to this man i.e. always thinking about his chart
I feel that you and he are not finished.
I think you have another chapter where you will go deeper with each other.

I can't say more beyond that next chapter but I see it.

I think that misunderstandings, in part,contributed to your break up

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posted November 20, 2010 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lightworker     Edit/Delete Message
Diana, I just read your postings yesterday @ lillianstar.wordpress, and thought you presented many interesting observations. So I wanted to share some recent experiences and observations, too.
And I have to say I do feel a great sense of relief now that Venus has moved direct again! I've been working non-stop for weeks, and it was symbolic that my first day off was this Friday when it went direct.

From your notes about the November new moon:
"The sun and moon are connected to pluto, so that is another indication of possible theft and dark feelings, since that is the shadow side of Pluto, who rules the Underworld. Crime will be connected to this new moon. Look for more brutal and savage crimes that seem like a made for tv movie due to the unbelievability of the facts surrounding the cases. These stories will show up in the neighborhood, or the news, starting now and until the next new moon a month from now. Women will figure prominently as either the victims or the very unlikely perpetrators: think, Miss Prim and Proper murders for profit themes. Black widow themes. High priced luxury commodities will be stolen as well."

My partner and I were witnesses to a violent assault and subsequent chase on 11/18. It's too long of a story to go into here, but fits where you say it can be like a 'made for tv movie', since that's how my partner described how it looked to police. It was also the first time either of us had that experience ( and hopefully the last!), it was near where we live, and in a low-crime area, so all the more strange because of that.

"Saturn is unaspected, which gives it more power. It is ruled by pluto as well. We have so much pluto and scorpio going on in the sky right now. Things are intense! Saturn is now within orb of another negative fixed star, algorab. This star will just intensify feelings of inadequacy and jealousy. We may see some more people choose to leave the planet this month from suicide. Since saturn is in libra, which rules relationships and money, those would be their reasons. It’s really not necessary to give up, things always get better. If you know someone having relationship problems or money problems, reach out to them this month to see if they need to talk."

I called a friend during the retro period who confided in me how desperate she was feeling with her marriage/money issues, and she felt better after we spoke.

"Mercury is my least favorite planet in this new moon chart and I’ll tell you why. It makes an exact aspect with neptune and chiron. A square. Neptune is in charge of lies, deception, fraud, delusion. Chiron is in charge of wounding. They say chiron rules healing too, but you have to get hurt first in order to get healed. No thanks. Neptune has a positive side, spirituality, compassion, and love. But we have a square happening here. So, expect to catch people doing the things I mentioned above. Expect to get hurt. If you expect it, it won’t hurt as much, right?? People. Find. Out. This. Month. If YOU did wrong, expect to get caught. Expect to be exposed for the fraud you are or were. Own up to your wrong to avoid future bad karma. Apologize and make amends if possible. Mercury also trines uranus, of the unexpected. Either you never saw it coming or if you were the perpetrator, you never thought you’d get caught."

Prominent Congressman and Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee Charles Rangel, whose trial took place during the retrograde period for accusations of fraud and misuse of funds, among other things, receives his punishment of censure Friday 11/19, when Venus goes direct. Also 9-11 settlements were resolved that day.

Finally, I wonder how the Christmas shopping period will be affected by this Venus shadow period, especially when so many people are out of work still during this depression, and people feel desperate?
And I'm curious to see how the foreclosure process will move forward by January, especially since they were 'frozen' the day Venus went retrograde!

Thanks for your postings, and I'll be looking for more of them at your site.


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posted November 20, 2010 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Ami, but if anything happens between us, it will be friendship and that's it. On his part, it was deliberate misunderstanding - if there was any there at all. I'm not even keen on giving him my friendship right now, which is unusual for me.

I'll edit this out in a while.

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posted November 21, 2010 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I hope I remember to respond to everyone. I am so tired.

Ami,

It would depend if venus hit your neptune at all. Otherwise, neptune in the 12th is rather a nice placement, since it's in its natural house. I would look to where you have pisces on the cusp to see how it plays out for you. I can't say without seeing the chart.

teasel,

I only read a few posts on that thread and don't think I saw yours -- I can't gt into those long threads if I join the party late. If you're having problems with venus in your 12th, you should get some relief when it passes the AC. 12th house transits aren't usually the best unless you're accustomed to the energy of the 12th, then they can be nice.


Raspberri

That makes sense because a lot of energy was released with the stationing of two planets. The full moon is in effect too.


Lightworker,

Since you commented on my blog, I answered you there, since I saw it there first.

Bed for me!

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posted November 21, 2010 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
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