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raspberri
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posted November 21, 2010 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I'm having issues here.

I feel torn between a choice I must make, and I have to make it soon because I feel that time isn't going to wait for me to do so.

Should I still continue to give all my love to the person who I love with all my heart?

Or should I take the opportunity I have to move on because I met someone new and I'm starting to like him..

Basically, I'm asking what you guy's would do in my situation. I have been constantly hurt by the first man, but the love is so strong I know I'm not going to have that type of love with anyone else. BUT he hurts me badly.

But the new person is very nice and he is attractive and smart. I just fear that I will do something stupid!

Please give some advice!?

ty!

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Lioness
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posted November 21, 2010 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this other person hurts you bad.. Is this someone you want to stay with??

But Ultimately I think you have to do whats "best" for u...

Try taking yourself out of the situation.. If this was your Best Friend, Sister... Loved one.... What would your advice be??

When you give "someone else" advice you use logic... When you give your self advice you use emotions... Look at it in a logical way..
Now what way makes YOU the happiest....

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raspberri
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posted November 21, 2010 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well what would make me happy is being with a man who can show his emotions truthfully.

But the one I loved the most has incredible issues with these things and I just don't know if I can handle it anymore as I have been for years.

I just know that if I set him free, I will always, always miss him and think of him as the love of my life.

It's bittersweet.


I just don't know what is meant to happen.

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Lioness
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posted November 21, 2010 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should never sacrifice your needs..

One would never be happy if you did..

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The Duke
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posted November 21, 2010 01:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, you're in quite a pickle.. i would not advice for a move, especially, if it's for anybody other than you.

that's one.. now two, i think you need to step back and analyze and make sure you're not confusing comfort or familiarity with love.

i don't think it's healthy or safe for anyone to stay in a sh!tty situation just because it's stable.. kinda like 'better the devil that you know' type thing?

i dunno.. if you don't like the person, i say break away... moving for another, i say no. if you break away, take time for yourself. move for yourself, don't move for anybody else. do it for you. after leaving a relationship though, i think u always need a break. it is never a good thing to jump ship only to get into another..

give it time, space, breathe, think... keep the communication doors open and make the decision based on what you feel and know is best for you! never for anyone else.

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raspberri
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posted November 21, 2010 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know but my Libra ASC hates to be alone.
Plus I feel like I may fall for the new one.

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The Duke
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posted November 21, 2010 01:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how far is saturn into the northern portion of your chart? is it still in your twelfth?

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raspberri
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posted November 21, 2010 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its one degree separating from my ASC. Saturn in my 12th was the most karmic and painful time of my entire life.

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The Duke
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posted November 21, 2010 01:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i bet.. saturn in virgo has been fun for no one.. i've seen it's effects in person of it moving through someone's twelfth and karma was exactly the thing.. http://www.nodeorama.com/viewtopic.php?id=3241

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Saturn Transits Through Your First House: This transit starts with Saturn passing over your Ascendant, and it marks the start of a new cycle in your life. During the next 14 years, or so, you have to concentrate more on taking care of internal matters rather than focusing on what’s going on out there with everyone else. The 1st House is You, your personality and how you approach things. When Saturn moves here, you have a chance to figure out not just who you are, but who you want to be. If you get depressed during this transit, it is most likely an indication that some of the basic routines of your life are faulty and need to be changed. http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/transitsSaturn18.4.htm

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posted November 21, 2010 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's the guy I think you're talking about: move the eff on.

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raspberri
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posted November 21, 2010 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know when Saturn was exact on my ASC, I lost my job!!!!!! So now, I'm jobless, but completely content, because I feel that I'm ready to move on to bigger and better things.

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raspberri
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posted November 21, 2010 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's easier said than done.

When I'm starting to move on, I just keep seeing his face I don't know wtf is going on here!!!!

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The Duke
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posted November 21, 2010 01:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think that you should maybe take a trip.. take a breather.. separate just to make sure u don't have ugly baby syndrome (when one see's an ugly baby long enough that they then begin to eventually think that it's cute) so that when you go home, you'll have a clear mind and be able to start fresh.

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When Saturn moves here, you have a chance to figure out not just who you are, but who you want to be.

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raspberri
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posted November 21, 2010 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lmao!

Well I'm going to bed. Have a happy Blue/Full Moon everyone!

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The Duke
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posted November 21, 2010 02:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nite.

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Deux*Antares
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posted November 21, 2010 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how you arrived at this conclusion:

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...I know I'm not going to have that type of love with anyone else.

I hope you will realize soon that having a fatalistic mindset like this is not going to help you find the relationship that you desire and deserve.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 21, 2010 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rasperri
I think I got a psychic feeling but I do not want to share it on the open Board.


It is GOOD ,btw,so don't panic

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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mir
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posted November 21, 2010 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you need some distraction in the first place and this new guy who's smart, attractive and nice is a very good opportunity!
Ofcourse it won't be easy and you're rightly afraid that you'll do something stupid and contaminate things...

You know, it took 15 years for me to process things after my first love (while *I* was the one who broke up with him and he did everything to get me back). I can see that NOW and I remember that I always compared him to others for a very long time after our break. I think this also has to do with the fact that he truly WANTED me for who *I* was and he never really let me fall although he finally married someone else because he couldn't get me back. I never ever met a guy later on in my life who wanted the real ME and that's something you can and will never forget. In a way this was a cross to bear for me,.. (I still love him more than I've ever loved ..)

So, as I think processing isn't something you can force and as I know this can take a very very long time...

please go on with your life and enjoy the moments you can have with others.

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popcorn
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posted November 21, 2010 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also think it's best to go on with the life. When you discuss with your self if you should choose him or him the time is ...go on for me.

If some of them was right you should know. You will feel it clear.

If you want start a family or be really serous and dont want to hurt your self it's important to listening on your self. I never want to have the half cookie.

If you only live here and now and not are afraid to be hurt... If you not want to be a family... Take the man you feel very strong, for a while. I think it never will last. If you see a picture inside you on your self as an doormat, run quick ..

I always see through my self how I will lookslike togheter with a man in the future. One individual behaviour say very much.

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pire
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posted November 21, 2010 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you asking strangers on the web what to do with your life?

what do you want in a relationship? do you want or need what you "want"?

how much you want what you want or need in a realtionship compared to how much you want a realationship?

ask yourself.

but do you still have the time to ask yourself these questions?

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Don: “No, it’s blood all right. But it might as well be tomato sauce for the effect it has on our real life…..”
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posted November 21, 2010 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pisces moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're not happy with someone it is always best to move on. Easier said than done, I know. Believe me, I know. And you're right, you probably will miss him and constantly think about him and second guess your decison and that's why it's not a good idea to get involved with anyone else.

I don't care what your ascendant is and what it's effects are, to achieve growth we have to overcome the barriers that have been put in front of us, not use them as an excuse to stay stuck in ways that do not enhance our lives.

Ultimately the decison is up to you but if you want to be happy you have to make a choice. Staying with someone who makes you unhappy will never bare any other fruit, while walking away from the situation will hurt but it also opens up the possibility to find what you are seeking.

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posted November 21, 2010 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the someone else is very likely what is often called a "transition" person...someone comes along to show you that life could go on without the one you are stuck on...and if you are staying while miserable you are definitely "stuck" on this person.

at the same time the transition person will probably turn out to be less compatible than you think right now, but people who are afraid to be alone tend to need "others" to pull them away from what they know is a losing proposition.

one of the things saturn in 1st seems to indicate to me is a time to learn how to stand on your own and decide on the direction your life needs to take during your next phase.

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posted November 21, 2010 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also don't stick around with a person just because you have "AMAZING" synastry aspects.

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raspberri
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posted November 21, 2010 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone.

I'm still torn but my heart is telling me to concentrate on this new person for now. I'll see where life takes me.

Ami, I will email you right now.

And Pire, I don't think the people on this site are complete strangers. I actually feel a very strong affinity with some people on this site and I feel comfortable enough sharing my problems. Thx.

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