posted November 21, 2010 06:24 AM            

So I met the Director the other day, who turns out has a baby. I babysat for about 15min., & I felt like she was "special," so I asked for her Birth info. Her chart has quite a few things similar with mine; 12H Earth sun, 1H stellium, born on 9 day, Leo Mars, Sagg Karma, etc...
Her Vertex is exactly on my Sun! & we have SN connections, pointing to the fact we could've been part of a "group," (religious probably) in a past life or few. Keep in mind I met DIR & Baby when T-Moon was in Taurus, T-Cap Asc cj T-NN/Pluto.

Does it seem apparent to you guys, from her chart, that she's on a Life Mission involving many? A philosopher? An indigo/crystal child? Star seed?

-- Her full birthname (chaldean) = 13/4. Her lifepath = 13/4. (huge dose of fated events in life), throw in her 7H saturn.
-- NN/Sun around the Solar/Lunar Eclipse Axis.
-- 12H Sun, sextile Neptune, conjunct Moon. Neptune in Pisces...she seems really psychic.
-- 1H stellium. According to Mark Husson 1H stellium people are here on a mission to be leading pioneers & innovators this lifetime.
-- All this Cap energy to propel her to lead.
-- Aqua ASC cj chiron in 1H. Wounded healer to the masses.
-- Pisces stellium in 1H too, bringing awareness to the masses.

She seems she'll be very introverted this lifetime, to study up & focus on preparing for a life mission? 1 on 1 relationships might not be important? rather focusing on spreading messages, working with the masses instead...

What do you guys think?? see anything else important??

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posted November 21, 2010 06:41 AM            

Add to the the full first house, and I actually
think the opposite, she will be extremely active, to the point of negating the self(hence the 12th house sun).

posted November 21, 2010 06:48 AM            

what would unaspected 6H Mars mean??

posted November 21, 2010 08:41 AM            

Agent the first thing that came to mind as I was reading this, was if this child had any connections to 14 Sag...The Great Attactor as this pull will not just be exclusive to you but all that come into contact with her...
Look at her Karma and Pholus conjunct the MC right on top of it and this trined by Ceres and Mars, creating a Fire trine there as well. Squared by the Vertex...I would say that yes there is something very special about her.

Philip Sedgwick is an Arizona-based Centaur astrologer is an expert on the Great Attractor as it shows up in the charts of his clients alot and so he made an extensive study of it this is what he wrote on it. I figured you might find this interesting.

"It doesn't appear to be punching a hole into another dimension, but rather, it allows us to see around things." In other words, its massive gravitational force bends spacetime so profoundly that we can get a view around the back of the universe. "It allows you to see around the bend. It clears the way. It's almost as if you're moving around behind something.

"Nobody knows what it is, or why everything is drawing to it. This thing is prodigious. It's the largest thing that I know of, that they [astronomers] know of. They can't really see anything out there. So what is it? We don't know. The point itself retreats from us, but everything is following it, in hot pursuit."

Sedgwick, a Scorpio, adds, "It is the ultimate Sagittarian statement of leave me alone, don't crowd my space, coming into the most extreme."

People born with the Sun, Moon, ascendant or another important planet close to, or aspecting, this point will often find that they have a polarizing effect on people around them, making unusually close friends and intense enemies as well. They can give the impression that they hold the key to the mystery of the universe, correctly or not.

"The perception is that people on the Great Attractor have unusual appeal or potency. They find themselves in vast circles, accidentally. Or they have impacted masses of people and think they have created no influence in their lives whatsoever," he said.

In addition her Pluto and Mercury are conjunct with Aura...she will grow up with knowledge of her Etheric body and her Spirits journey, in Capricorn says it will be a slow and steady realization...but Pluto ensures it to be final and Saturn..for it to be complete.
Her Aquarian Ascendant puts her right in the middle of the Energy of the Paradigm we are ushering in...and her Chiron and Neptune conjunct it shows that she will be known as a Gifted healer and Multidimensional being...her chart screams that...look at the Pisces Moon conjunct Jupter in the 1st opposing Vesta.
And her sun at 28 Capricorn but softened by Venus...she will be a very attractive girl if not in Soul for sure in Spirit.
Where is her Angel, Spirit, Logos, Isis, Osiris, DNA, Alma asteriods...as well as Destinn, Atlantis,Lucifer...

posted November 21, 2010 09:57 AM            

Wow fascinating...so does this "Great attractor," attract crowds/followers in whichever endeavors you choose?

Sorry, I've hardly slept the last 2-3 days cuz of work...plus I dont know much about asteroids still, so sometimes I dont know which ones to include. I just quickly posted up a 2nd chart with the ones you've listed (cant find, "Alma"). She's got Lucifer opp Karma/Pholus!--which means? I'll read your post again later & re-edit a longer post with questions. Thanks so much!!

ps. Funny you bring up the fact she'll be "attractive," in some shape or form. The first thing I said to the DIR was, "wow she's a really goodlooking baby...have you thought about putting her in commercials??" LOL.
Although it's hard to say how kids will turn out later in life...(like MacCauly Culkin).

posted November 21, 2010 11:48 AM            

@Agent: First thing, beyond the Astrology. Why did you get an opportunity to be in this child's presence and have access to the natal information? There is a message for you from your Higher Self and the baby'

posted November 23, 2010 11:35 AM            

Indeed your right. I went to bed after I posted this (before I could read your input). I had a dream. In my dream, all I saw was her chart, & I felt the baby's soul or "energy," telling me to study her chart & deliver a message. When I woke up, I pondered over the fact the DIR is a Cancer Sun (didnt know DIR's birth info at that point). It suddenly occurred to me that maybe DIR had a Cancer stellium which would be opposing Baby's Cap stellium? Coincidentally, my Sun is opposing my mom's Pisces stellium. Personally growing up/dealing with my mom had been really difficult. She had repressed me in many areas of my life. I've always felt stunted, & much precious time lost...which I could've achieved greater things by now. So I suddenly felt like I was supposed to "trouble shoot," for her. Perhaps share with the DIR the hardships I went through. I dont really know this DIR's personality yet, but you know how industry people can be sometimes. So if baby didnt have to deal with the unecessary, maybe she would advance much faster and contribute greater things to humanity?? That's my initial thought, but I am not sure...and I could be imagining things haha.

For some reason, what I'm getting from her chart is...
With Atlantean lifelines & strong Aqua, perhaps she was a scientist in Atlantis. Or maybe she witnessed the destruction of Atlantis, the fall of a civilization, so she's back this life time to guide others into the new age of aqua? Combine this with all that healing archetype of Pisces. Maybe she would advance medical technology & help the masses?? Invent a cure for something? What do you think??

posted November 23, 2010 11:59 AM            

I kept re-reading your post, & I want to say thanks again! If you see anymore interesting insights, please do add.

posted November 24, 2010 02:16 AM            

Do you remember quite awhile ago I had asked you what aspects to look for regarding Atlantis?? You said you were going to make a separate thread? Did you ever get around to it?? if so,...I cant find it!! =(

posted November 24, 2010 02:45 AM            

See, Atlantis square Mars if exact is an indicator of an Atlantis Lifeline where ambitions overpowered the Soul into committing mistakes. The trine to Midheaven increases the probability of this lifeline a little. Total Certainty needs Atlantis aspects to Ascendant, Sun, Moon, Karma or NN.

The Director has friends in high places and could belong to an influential bloodline Look at his Sun conj KAALI. Look at LOGOS trine Jupiter exact with a bisection from Pluto giving two lucky Pluto sextiles to LOGOS and Jupiter.

LUCIFER opp KARMA in the baby's chart indicates a fatedness to rebel against authority. Notice the weak conjunction of LUCIFER and Karma in Dad's chart. Astrological Inheritance at play here. It has been inspired in me when Tr moon conjunct Natal Jupiter that Astrological Inheritance shows those lessons the parents did not learn which the child now has to learn for mutual benefit of Parent and Child. This is a positive way of looking at the biblical comment: "Sins of the Father will be upon the sons".
I have Saturn square Mars exact. I know I did not complete the lessons prior to my son's conception. And guess what he has? Saturn square Sun exact.

posted November 24, 2010 05:09 AM            

All very informative!

1) ["Total Certainty needs Atlantis aspects to Ascendant, Sun, Moon, Karma or NN."]
--What degree of orbs do you generally use? Actually I'm the one with Atlantis sq. Mars (3), trine MC (2), semi-sext ASC (1), DNA-(MC) trine (exact). Does minor aspects like Semi-sext even count? I'm asking all this cuz, since I was young, I've been fascinated & read lots about Atlantis...but I've never been able to have a past life recall dream. So I wonder....

2) What exactly is/does LOGOS do?? & ALMA?

3) Also I have KAALI opp Venus, sq. Mars...is that evil? My Kaali opp Atlantis (6), but I guess that doesnt count...wheew~

4) ["I have Saturn square Mars exact. I know I did not complete the lessons prior to my son's conception. And guess what he has? Saturn square Sun exact."]
--So how is that playing out for you? Does that make you both challenge each other with that energy? What if you learnt your lessons now, would that burden be lifted from your son, even tho he's stuck with that aspect now?

I just took a look at my Mom's chart again...
I guess that's why I'm stuck with the following, cuz she's got it in hers!:
-her Nessus sq. Venus (2), mine (2)
-her Venus opp Pluto, my Venus cj Pluto.
-her Pluto opp Jupiter, my Pluto cj Jup.
- Pluto sq. Moon (me), she doesnt have it.

posted December 17, 2010 07:59 AM            

Anyways

Moon in pisces gives or bestows creative talents, that is for sure, based on good aspects, but not as great as a qunitile, and requires effort in life to fully realize.

Moon in pisces for me is in the 10th/11th, and I have had teachers unfairly score me low in other classes to funnel me into artistic avenues....in which my parents had to intercede and report objective evidence of my advanced maturity and intellectual abilities.

Moon in pisces is a magnet for everyone, they will want a piece, in the first house I can only imagine it will mean good looks, and intercepted, maybe not until after maturity.

My moon is intercepted in Koch and I was not in touch with my emotions until later in life, even though I was mature, I had rejected my emotional nature in favor of a more spart archtypal influence. And I excelled as a child because of this, only to falter as a young adult, when I felt a sudden rush of emotions that I knew nothing about, that had been repressed for ages....she has a similar interception in the first house, if she has psychic gifts, they will be latent based on that, however that also depends on neptune, which is a doorway between the intercepted sign and the planets their.

Capricon sun is like the conte of monte crisco. You will either be ruthless and vengeful and successful at that, and suffer great spiritual downfall, or you will rise to power and resist the urge to corruption. With a scorpio influence in capricorn it is either extremes that play through the parties mind. Not sure if that is present for her but it is for me. It makes me a good scrutinizer and investigator and paranoid to a fault. I am an extreme thinker, learned to relegate into the gray areas for the sake of my blood pressure and anxiety.

That said I am extremely empathic. Not many people would assume this because I am brash sometimes knowing full well that it is the only thing people will respond too, hav eyou ever tried to tell someone on the train you were an empath? I have objective evidence two

I frequently pass out during movies that involve alot of dispassionate and gruesome blood scenes, and it is as if I can feel the pain of the wounds of the people on screen in my own body. This is a literal sensation, as if my wrists were being sawed up, as it felt that way when i was watching saw. Some people think this is weird, I just don't mention it and I don't watch al ot of telivision, but I am not depressed and happier these days, pursueing and devoting time to artistic avenues as well as intellectual and carreer prospects, investing in my skill set, etc.

You'll notice in my chart there is alot going on in those houses of others, transformation, and career......

This child has her stuff in the 1st and 12th. She will be learning alot of the same stuff as I am, as my 12th node is in the 12th house, and alot of that is simply realizing that life is on your side and that going wtih the flow, while doing your best to prepare for obstacles on that path, is your path to peace.

posted December 17, 2010 08:07 AM            

And I have experienced this as well. Exercise is a necessary step for this nervous energy...and I've read peoples charts with pisces influences, moons and suns and mars, and they all transform by exercise and diet...