posted December 05, 2010 02:58 AM            

I met someone last year that I feel this way about, and I think he senses it too and it's made for a relationship with severe ups and downs but neither of us seem to be able to let go...at the same time there's an aversion. Our synastry has a lot of strong points in terms of compatibility, all our planets conjunct one another's, and there are some insanely exact midpoint aspects. BUT there are some uuhhh uncomfortable aspects...
I have my Mars and Pluto conjunct in the 7th- his ASC is exactly at the midpoint of this
He has a Saturn/Pluto conjunction in the 12th- my chart ruler, Mars is conjunct this, as well as his ASC
His Moon is square my Pluto, and his Draco Moon again hits that midpoint between my Mars/Pluto conjunction
My Draco Moon is opposite his Saturn/Pluto
His Mars (and Scorp chart ruler) is conjunct my Moon
His Vertex is exactly opposite my Saturn
His BML is exactly conjunct my Moon and my BML is exactly opposite his Moon
His Neptune is exactly conjunct my Venus/Uranus
His Chiron is exactly inconjunct my Venus/Uranus
Both our Sun/Moon midpoints conjunct each other's Neptunes

Right now I have my progressed Moon/Mars/Pluto conjunct my DSC. My Solar Return Moon is also exactly opposite Pluto and NN. I've been attracting a lot of relationships with men whose Moons make a hard aspect to my Pluto (so far two Taurus Moons and two Aquarius moons), whose Pluto's conjunct my Mars (been meeting a lot of people born in the early 80s), and whose Mars conjuncts my Moon (3 guys in a row in the last year and a half)

posted December 05, 2010 06:22 AM            

Venus/Pluto--love combined with a magnetic ,tidal wave
Moon/Pluto----tender,nurturing heart feelings combined with a magnetic tidal wave
Mars/Pluto -- primal drive combined with magnetic tidal wave

BML--a librarian throwing off her glasses and button down suit and finding her primal self

Nessus---the deepest pain you have ever had brought to the surface, a laser shining on your soul.
If you can live through it, you will transform lol

If you have strong Pluto in a relationship, try to flow with it rather than fight it.
Pluto is there for a reason. God gave it to us to help us unearth unknown parts of ourselves.
Try to find some inner strength to which you can hold when the world wants to swallow you up.
With Pluto, you WILL feel as if you are falling of the side of the earth.
It is "normal", if you could call it that LOL

posted December 05, 2010 01:02 PM            

I have started to find it most useful to look closely and deeply at each natal chart (including current transits) before even considering a synastry.

At Lindaland, a disproportunate number of the synastries posted come from people with heavy Neptune or Pluto, 12th or 8th houses--because those are the people who are really into astrology, mysticism, the occult--and we get a lot of people with over-intense 7th house dynamics, because those are the people who, instead of being like, "Hey, I met a person I want to spend more time with, I'm going to go out and walk in the park with him today" stay INSIDE, alone, on their computer, obsessively listing synastry dynamics and then discussing it with strangers.

In your case, with Mars/Pluto in the 7th, you are fascinated and passionate by the idea that there's some deeper, more intense, more "magnetic" REASON for you to be drawn to people. It can't just be something mundane or unexamined, that would bore your Pluto/Mars. And it would require a level of discomfort, as if there's something Deep and Transformational beneath the surface, to feel meaningful. The natal Pluto/Mars probably also loves the idea that these relationships reflect your own magnetism and power of attraction.

I think often people will fit relationships into the obsessions, hooks, and "stories" they are working with in their own natals.
Checking out the synastry is a Plutonian activity that isn't actually a part of really relating to a person. The feeling of intensity around a relationship is less revealing, I think, than the desire to obsessively explore it by "mapping" it astrologically.

posted December 05, 2010 01:07 PM            

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we get a lot of people with over-intense 7th house dynamics, because those are the people who, instead of being like, "Hey, I met a person I want to spend more time with, I'm going to go out and walk in the park with him today" stay INSIDE, alone, on their computer, obsessively listing synastry dynamics and then discussing it with strangers.

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posted December 05, 2010 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[QUOTE] we get a lot of people with over-intense 7th house dynamics, because those are the people who, instead of being like, "Hey, I met a person I want to spend more time with, I'm going to go out and walk in the park with him today" stay INSIDE, alone, on their computer, obsessively listing synastry dynamics and then discussing it with strangers.

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Guilty

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Hilarious!!!

posted December 05, 2010 02:31 PM            

What I've noticed about my Mars/Pluto issues is that they do only come out when I feel rejected and/or in the absence of the other person- and I'm very sensitive to this. Even if I have not been explicitly rejected- if I feel strongly for someone and don't get the same thing back, I get obsessive and want to drive them to express exactly how they feel about me. I think he does care about me, but I think sometimes we get scared by how strongly we might feel about someone without having a solid basis for these kinds of feelings. I think that's symptomatic again of relationship points again being involved with outter planets, and I think in this case, our charts seeming to be catered to dealing with each other's relationship points triggers all these weird outter planet reactions that feel bigger than what ends up feeling like your own comparatively miniscule being.

One last point about this that I find interesting is that our Psyches are exactly conjunct within our exact Mars to Saturn/Pluto conjunction. I've read about Psyche being linked our emotional hangups, our hurts from past relationships (including family). It doesn't help that we seem to get involved in weirdly similar experiences. For example- he hurt his leg the other day and scraped his knee. The next day, the SAME THING happened to me???

I do agree that there's something to be gained for trying to consider the relationship outside of astrological considerations- but the truth is, I did that for a while with him, and in some ways it's comforting to have looked at our charts and see that I'm not totally crazy and imagining this! In any case, it's too late.

posted December 05, 2010 02:42 PM            

A synastry can only explain how two energies influence each other. What you make of the relationship is your own free will and nothing can change that. It is good to understand synastry dynamics so one can make an evolved choice and turn the 'hurt' and transform it into Love.

Love is the Highest Frequency and it can transform any negative synastry into a evolved, mutually benefiting relationship.

The man you write about is there in your life for a reason. Gauge that and you will be able to learn some valuable lessons. They may not be easy but resisting them will only cause that pattern to repeat over and over again in your life until you would end up frustrated from the cycle.

Love and Light.

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अस्तो मा सद् गमय |
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय |
मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् ||
ॐ शांति शांति शांति

posted December 05, 2010 06:15 PM            

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haha lucia, i see you're still here too!

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posted December 05, 2010 07:07 PM            

He has a Scorpio DSC 3 degrees and his natal Pluto is at 3 Scorpio.

His Sun/Moon midpoint is at 2 Leo, and we met when his Progressed Sun was at 1 Scorpio. Now, his Progressed Sun is at 4 Scorpio and his Progressed Moon is at 0 Taurus.

My Progressed ASC is at 1 Scorpio and my Progressed Moon is at 1 Scorpio. My Progressed Sun will change into Leo in a few months as well!

posted December 05, 2010 07:16 PM            

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I'm wondering because ever since my ASC changed into Scorpio last year, I have been obsessive, but just with one person...

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posted December 05, 2010 09:59 PM            

Anyway, this article by Dawn Brogodi is helping me navigate this- I love her.
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/09/18/synastry-q-a-angle-rulers/

Also- I like her descriptions of ASC/DSC relationships- mine rang true when considering my progressed chart

Taurus Asc/Scorpio Dsc: Trying to keep the partner under lock and key, then shocked when deceived. Not acknowledging the powerful regenerative forces in sexual relationships, leading to complacency. Becoming lost in sensuality for its own sake, not acknowledging the deep psychological forces at work. Trying to keep everything contained, until its too late. Must learn: fearlessness, and to trust the eternal rebirth of life energy. Unacknowledged need: for powerful, transformative experience. Unacknowledged behaviour: destructive and self-destructive tendencies.

This is Scorpio's for raspberri

Scorpio Asc/Taurus Dsc: Attracted to constant, stable, ‘earthy’ types. Can overdo sensuality. Unacknowledged positioning for power in relationship. Controlling behaviour. Keeping secrets from partner. Intractable. Refusal to compromise. Must learn: to relax and enjoy what is for it’s own sake. Unacknowledged need: to gather and build. Unacknowledged behaviour: Fear of letting go.