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Lioness
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posted December 05, 2010 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In synastry what does Venus want from Uranus?

I know venus/uranus is electric attraction.. I have read that venus wants love from Uranus, Uranus just wants excitement.. Once the excitement dies down Uranus is gone... I know the relationships will suddenly start and then suddenly end...

What if the venus person has Venus sq Uranus in their natal chart.. Does Venus still want the same thing...

Lets discuss Venus/Uranus contacts

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posted December 05, 2010 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard aspects just mean they come together spontaneously and unexpectedly, but it's in the arena of love and sex.

It keeps that way over time too, when there are other aspects between them... It's frusterating though, if you want more stability.

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posted December 05, 2010 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Venus is still Venus and wants to be Venus- wants to love and be loved openly. In my experience Venus to outer planets is rough but holds the promise of an extremely idealistic relationship but for different reasons on either end. In my experience Venus's reaction to the outer planet is total love, their ideals and values are embodied by the outer planet person. But I think there's an exaggerated quality to it since the outer planets represent energies' that are not entirely personal so Venus is seeing things that are HUGE in the other person, potentially overwhelming the actual person that is carrying those energies. I think the Uranus person senses Venus's love and gets a little freaked out because they (maybe not consciously) realize that Venus's view of them is pretty exalted. I think that may be another reason why Venus to outer planet ties give way to either total rejection or major clinging and obsessiveness, or go back and forth between the two. In Uranus's case I think the rejection is abrupt and sudden, while the obsessive aspect comes from over idealization. But Venus to me, unless affected by another natal planet, which I know you mentioned, is actually pretty consistent in its desire to love and be loved.

I'd imagine these two Uranus's in the comparison square each other? If this is the case I think that the person with the Venus/Uranus natal square probably still wants to love and be loved- but this comes with the baggage of their Uranus square that makes them erratically pull away. Their partner probably does the same, but in a way that creates a tension with the way/the kinds of situations in which their partner expresses it.

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posted December 05, 2010 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also- I don't buy that all Venus/Uranus contacts spell out a relationship that is confined to being quick and abrupt. If someone has a natal aspect that shows that they are more prone to appreciate a Uranian relationship then they very well could actually cling to a partner whose Uranus strongly aspects their chart because it seems perfect to their needs. And Uranus is VERY idealistic about relationships (exact Venus/Uranus conjunction talking here!) so the promise of this alone could propel them to hold onto the relationship almost dogmatically and stubbornly (which is another Uranian quality, I think- since Aquarius is a fixed sign)

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posted December 05, 2010 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, no a person with Venus in hard aspect to Uranus will never 'cling' to anyone. Uranus is and awlays will be about separation and unexpectedness.

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posted December 05, 2010 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Venus and Uranus are exactly conjunct and I don't think I'm exempt from clinging to people! I just have trouble expressing this clinging and in fact, it seems to come out moreso when I'm not in the person's presence. I get really idealistic about them and think we have a really great relationship but then when I feel like we're getting too close and have to actually have a human, person-to-person interaction, I get flighty because I feel like suddenly I was too idealistic and the thought of all those fantasies crashing down seems really threatening. I think I wont be able to meet the expectation I've created, or feel they've assigned to me, or maybe they wont...I think everyone's Venus wants to be loved though!

I said that I don't buy it because my parents' have this aspect and they've been together for over 30 years. In their case there was some Saturn stuff too and I think the Urananian issues were more about dramatic changes to their lives and a kind of inability to settle into routine ways of relating. But they cling to each other a lot and think the other is the only person that really gets them.

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posted December 05, 2010 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah but it doesn't matter. When Venus aspects Uranus, esp the hard aspects, you are bound to have instability in love, but it depends which houses Venus and Uranus fall and rule.

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posted December 06, 2010 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus in the 7th.. Uranus trines my Gem Saturn in the 3rd...

When I am single I do have the Uranus type of flings.. When I was married, I remained totally faithful. So maybe the trine to Saturn stabilizes the Uranian behavior when its needed.. I also have Uranus sextile my Sun,moon,mercy..

My Uranus does not aspect to my venus.

Im wonder about me being highly Uranus, how would it be with me with someone else that is highly Uranus.. Our Uranus conjunct, so what ever Aspects my uranus makes to him, he also has these in his natal.. And Visa Versa..

We both have Uranus in the 7th
We both have Uranus trine Saturn in H3

His Uranus sq his venus and mercury
His Uranus trines his jupiter..

For me
My Uranus sextiles my sun,moon,merc
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Yes we both have have some instability in relationships.. A lot of up's and down's.

I dont consider my self clingy, I cant stand someone hanging on me, in inappropriate moments. Although my leo wants attention, and my cancer venus wants to be emotional..

I wonder if two Uranus people can find comfort or would it be just one wild ride... hahah...

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posted December 06, 2010 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread, Lioness

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posted December 06, 2010 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus also represent what we value, uranus in aspect suggests we will value a certain amount of space, unpredictability or differentness but the moon HAS to be taken into consideration with the "clinging" issue and a chart that is heavily plutonian will get very obsessive at times, saturn will also tame uranus,
its pretty common to get heavy uranian types that are very careful to maintain order in the outside life because it provides stability for the internal tornado.

maybe they prefer to date astrologers or revolutionaries?

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posted December 06, 2010 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JChristine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus/Uranus exactly conjunct in the 12th house in Sagittarius. The last thing I should want according to most is a steady relationship...but I do.

I totally want to get married and have a family and a home and all that stuff. The thing is is that I don't want to be bored, I don't believe in the general gender norms, I want a relationship that grows, changes and is filled with excitement and laughter. I want my partner to be someone I can see the world with and try new things with and if not at least allow me the space to do so. I still want to retain my sense of self and independence but have love and warmth to come home to.

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posted December 06, 2010 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus/Uranus exactly squared. I do get the wandering eye, but I'm more reliable than the average Venus/Uranus person because it's also square Saturn.

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posted December 06, 2010 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPianist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus trine or sextile Uranus orb 4° 23'
She will love freedom above all. Her feelings can be unusual and her aesthetic taste very original. Her creativity is remarkable and she can be successful if she becomes involved in artistic activities. Her rebelliousness is understandable and will never be destructive. Her personality will be magnetic, unconventional, and will make her very attractive to the opposite sex. Her romances can be short but very special. She will be always looking for the unusual, the unique, and the original.

I almost fell off my chair in shock the first time I read my natal chart intrepetation from the Venus Group. In my opinion, it's much more accurate than the one from Cafe Astrology.

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posted December 06, 2010 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by staborgi:
Also- I don't buy that all Venus/Uranus contacts spell out a relationship that is confined to being quick and abrupt. If someone has a natal aspect that shows that they are more prone to appreciate a Uranian relationship then they very well could actually cling to a partner whose Uranus strongly aspects their chart because it seems perfect to their needs. And Uranus is VERY idealistic about relationships (exact Venus/Uranus conjunction talking here!)

Yeah so true. In my natal Saturn and Uranus are both opposite Venus in the 7th house. And unfortunately I keep gravitating towards those whose natal Uranus opposes my Venus.

But to make things even more difficult their natal Saturn is conjunct my ASC. So that erratic Uranian energy is a bit more stabilized then it would seem.

Since I have the opposition in my natal as well, the Uranus person seems to be far more fascinated with me then I am with them. And I tend to be a bit aloof in general, so I'm not entirely playing the Venus role. Boy do Aquarian Venuses love me!

Oh and T. Uranus has been squaring my natal Venus for the past year or so, so talk about lightning fast relationships. I have had so many flings this year, it is ridiculous!

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posted December 06, 2010 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VirgoPianist:
Venus trine or sextile Uranus orb 4° 23'
She will love freedom above all. Her feelings can be unusual and her aesthetic taste very original. Her creativity is remarkable and she can be successful if she becomes involved in artistic activities. Her rebelliousness is understandable and will never be destructive. Her personality will be magnetic, unconventional, and will make her very attractive to the opposite sex. Her romances can be short but very special. She will be always looking for the unusual, the unique, and the original.

That sounds strikingly similar to Venus oppostion Uranus. Except with the oppostion, restlessness and impatience can sabotage relationships and the native can also tend to attract the aloof types rather then entirely project it uranian aloofness.

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posted December 06, 2010 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua Mars is attracted to me, even my female friends have aqua mars... lol
Pretty much majority of the people I know Their mars is in Aqua which is opposite my Leo mars.

For me in relationships, I like being in relationships, but I dont want to get married, and I do need my space, I have to be able to come and go w/o questions,demands and accusations. If I get this more or likely I want go, but I need to know I CAN..

My Juno conjuncts my Uranus in the 7th.. So yeah Im also attracted to the Aqua Mars. And aloof men, but not to aloof.. My leo still wants attention :P

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posted December 07, 2010 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I've noticed that those with Aquarius placements tend to go for Leo's more then Leo's gravitating towards Aquarius. My best friend is a Pisces Sun with Aquarius moon!

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posted December 07, 2010 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a really good expert from Liz Greene & Howard Sasportas book on The Development of the Personality in regards to Venus-Uranus contacts:


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[/B]The Venus side wants closeness and relatedness, while the Uranus side may not want to be pinned down in a coventional relationship. Very often it happens that if we have such a conflict, we will side with one end of it and deny the other.

So this woman my identify with her need for closeness and intimacy, and deny her Uranian side. Remember what Jung said, however. To paraphase him, anything we deny in ourselves we attract from the outside and call it fate. So she is identified with her Venus side and denies her Uranian side. What happens?

She attracts someone who is Uranian and doesn't want to be tied down.


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posted December 07, 2010 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted April 15, 2013 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I disagree w the outer planet thing. If someone else's venus touches your Jupiter/Uranus I have found more often than not that the outer planet LOVES Venus. It has happened with me twice. First itbwas the man's Venus conjunct my Jupiter & Uranus, I was in love w him (still am) or infatuated w.e.

The other one MY Venus squared his Jupiter & it was the other way around. Same with my Venus on another man's Pluto. Venus on outer to me means that outer planet loves Venus..

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posted April 15, 2013 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure about Venus/Uranus, but it seems that with Venus/Jupiter, Jupiter is the one who gets infatuated with Venus. And, come to think of it, it's not very surprising that outer planets would like Venus - after all, she's the love goddess who charms and seduces!

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posted April 15, 2013 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It can go either way, sometimes Venus falls, sometimes it's Uranus... Idk..
I guess that's when the natal chart determines who would fall...

In this scenario, I'm Uranus... It's electric, but unstable but consistent...

It's also magnifying, but that could be other factors..
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posted April 16, 2013 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
In synastry what does Venus want from Uranus?

I know venus/uranus is electric attraction.. I have read that venus wants love from Uranus, Uranus just wants excitement.. Once the excitement dies down Uranus is gone... I know the relationships will suddenly start and then suddenly end...

What if the venus person has Venus sq Uranus in their natal chart.. Does Venus still want the same thing...

Lets discuss Venus/Uranus contacts



I have a contact in my natal chart between Uranus/Venus/Moon all good aspects (trine and sextile) and what I want from relationships is lots of freedom and excitement. Maybe it's the same when two people have the positive aspects between Uranus/Venus/Moon? Things get boring and when they do, I want to go and find something else. It causes restlessness.

Maybe the squares mean sudden beginnings and endings? The same with the conjunction and opposition? I find Uranus destabilizes the love life, generally.

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posted April 16, 2013 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lioness:
[b]In synastry what does Venus want from Uranus?

I know venus/uranus is electric attraction.. I have read that venus wants love from Uranus, Uranus just wants excitement.. Once the excitement dies down Uranus is gone... I know the relationships will suddenly start and then suddenly end...

What if the venus person has Venus sq Uranus in their natal chart.. Does Venus still want the same thing...

Lets discuss Venus/Uranus contacts



I have a contact in my natal chart between Uranus/Venus/Moon all good aspects (trine and sextile) and what I want from relationships is lots of freedom and excitement. Maybe it's the same when two people have the positive aspects between Uranus/Venus/Moon? Things get boring and when they do, I want to go and find something else. It causes restlessness.

Maybe the squares mean sudden beginnings and endings? The same with the conjunction and opposition? I find Uranus destabilizes the love life, generally. [/B][/QUOTE]

I typed this long post and then my iPod froze and it wouldn't submit the reply... I will have to get back with u ...

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posted April 17, 2013 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the square in my chart, which is out of sign as well, and yes, I have met Uranus from the outside many times. Twice the other way around as well. I think I identify more with Venus, though, as she's my chart ruler.

I've come to terms with that I do need my space and freedom at least a little bit. Uranus in Capricorn puts a limit on how far I go with it, though. It's all within boundaries. My crushes come and go. If it's not going anywhere, it disappears quickly. I've also freaked people out majorly when going from chill, fun-loving Uranus into sweet, sensitive Venus. But it was always there! Don't like Uranus in relationships much, but it's the ruler of my 5th, so I can't really get around it. Mixed feelings.

So I think I fit the basic descriptions of Venus-Uranus.

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