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Lonake
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posted December 07, 2010 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All right I know it's not all fancy, but really which sign has more of a loner like quality.

Both Cap & Aqua are traditionally ruled by Saturn til Uranus came into the mix, and the trait has been ascribed to both. My vote is with Capricorn, they're quite self-contained.

And what is the deal with Saturn? Maybe someone more versed in mythology can clue me in, Is he more cool with being the lone ranger or is this guy wanting someone close?

Conversely, the types who can't stand to not be in a relationship otherwise they feel dead, or I don't know what goes on in their brain..What are their chart influences, what have you seen?

For that one I'll say prominent Venus, esp. conj the Sun. I have yet to see one Venus conj Sun individual who can stand being alone for a prolonged period of time, we'll say a year. And the orb there has been wide, maybe 8-9 degrees.

So basically, if you fall on either end of that spectrum, loner and quite choosy (unfortunately having to reject those who would like to be close to you) or are you jumping in every which way and don't desire at all to be on your own, what are your influences and do you think you'll ever change? Cos let's face it they're both extreme relating manifestations.

Add your Venus/H7/Libra influences...I'm leaning away from this being a Lunar issue but that could still apply, so put the Moon info as well. Also state your strongest planets.

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posted December 07, 2010 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My limited experience is that Cap's want partners.
I don't know many Aqua's.
I can't answer on the rest other than the few men ,I know, with prominent Venus's do seem to want partnership.

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posted December 07, 2010 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus conj sun, and I have never been alone, not even for close to a year.
Add the Libra Moon, and you get the picture!

In my seventh I have Merc/Nept conj in Scorpio. So usually, I am never alone with them! I also have libra mars, and Libra on the desc. I admit, I hate to even go to the store alone, or do anything alone.
My house is like a zoo. Something is always a buzzing. I have accepted this as part of who I am, and I am OK with it.

I know alot of Scorpios who are content with being alone. I know alot who never marry or marry only once ( I am speaking of the males) and seem very content with bachelorhood.

I know a few Virgo gents the same way. Either never married or married once for a very short time.

ETA: EVERY single aqua I know is partnered. Every one of them, strange huh?
(Most of them are females).

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posted December 07, 2010 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Up to date, I havent met anyone more loner than myself,...unless you count monks & nuns (which I have interacted with a few).

I attribute that to my:

-Virgo Sun (sign of the eternal Bachelor)
-Cap Moon sq. Pluto-Venus
-Asc cj Saturn-Mercury exact.

Must be all that Cap energy...

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posted December 07, 2010 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gypsee, good call on the Scorps, I've noticed this as well. Can't say exactly what I'd attribute it to, other than depth of feeling. In the end I think they're searching for a safe space, where they won't have to be so self protective, that's when they let down their guard. I think their challenge is to find a partner who can stand firm in the face of their honesty & self-revelation because if the partner can't handle it, it's as if all the old wounds are coming back to haunt them and then things start going downhill.

And about the Aquas..unfortunately I have an image of the men as the players of the zodiac, along with gemini, so I wouldn't be surprised to find them partnered, and typically people find Aquarius fascinating.

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posted December 07, 2010 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agent, can you describe the manifestations of those aspects in terms of your personality, how they work for you? And are you saying you like being alone, or are looking for something you haven't found? And Saturn does look quite prominent for you.

(I have Cap Moon sq Pluto, too I'll agree it gives a sort of..ability to weather life's storms.)

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posted December 07, 2010 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's seldom I feel me alone. In periods after my second marriage I've been alone. Almost always dateing. I meet men on the bus, train. I think I be in conact to men everywhere. Strange but so it is.

I will never start to build something important togheter with a man again, if it not feels completely right. I want the whole cokie not a part of it. We must be on the same level. I love my life alone with my friends and children.... So rather better to be free and alone than build something important togheter to someone who not feels right.

If get one part of the cokie and some pieces feels good. I say OK to live-apart . I've got through some of this live-apart after my marriage and they have never last :;.

I've strong uranus/saturn

moon,venus/N.N/mars in house 11

moon square saturn house 8 (3 orb)
moon square merk/uran house 2 (0-1 orb)

Venus/NN/mars trine Saturn (0-1 orb to mars)

merk/uranu opp saturn (3)

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posted December 07, 2010 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Gypsee, good call on the Scorps, I've noticed this as well. Can't say exactly what I'd attribute it to, other than depth of feeling. In the end I think they're searching for a safe space, where they won't have to be so self protective, that's when they let down their guard. I think their challenge is to find a partner who can stand firm in the face of their honesty & self-revelation because if the partner can't handle it, it's as if all the old wounds are coming back to haunt them and then things start going downhill.

And about the Aquas..unfortunately I have an image of the men as the players of the zodiac, along with gemini, so I wouldn't be surprised to find them partnered, and typically people find Aquarius fascinating.


Man,Lonake, that is BRILLIANT about Scorpio.

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posted December 07, 2010 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
everything you all said seems to ring true so far or atleast have a great point. My 2 cent add, virgos...perhaps virgo risings especially.

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posted December 07, 2010 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(((And about the Aquas..unfortunately I have an image of the men as the players of the zodiac, along with gemini, so I wouldn't be surprised to find them partnered, and typically people find Aquarius fascinating))))

I'm a woman and sometimes I feel my like one of this players. It's nothing I wont but it's looks like that when I seeing the result. It feels like I burned many men becase I listening to what I feel, leave and go forward wiht my life.

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posted December 07, 2010 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would Aqua/heavy uranus influenced guys play some stupid and annoying games before they decide if you're a suitable partner for them?

Some months ago, when we were just platonic friends/colleagues he was all great and honest,although he was already getting closer to me. But since i let him know that i would also want more than friendship, he behaves as if he would be a total idiot, avoids the possibility of any real conversation and he's also lying... and i know that he does all this for reason, but its really shocking to see him like that.

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posted December 07, 2010 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus rising here, and I love to spend long amounts of time alone. Also, have Saturn in the 11th house. Totally true what they say about that. I don't have many friends, but the ones I do make, stay around for a long time. However, I do enjoy having some man in my life. It doesn't have to be a "joined at the hip" thing, but having someone is comforting. Must be the Taurus security thing.

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posted December 07, 2010 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, speaking for myself, as an Aqua with Venus square Saturn and Uranus, I have no patience for games, but I get bored easily. So it's not that I don't like you, but I get distracted by shiny new things. I don't bother pursuing people I don't like... but I also like people very easily.

If you think an Aqua is playing you this is what it is: They probably DO actually like you a lot, but they need the novelty factor.


And to answer this post: I always need a partner. I'm an Aqua, Saturn & Uranus conjunct DSC in Sag square Venus in Pisces. Libra is on the cusp of the 5th, Moon in Libra in 5th opposite Jupiter.

Oh and I have lots of friends. But I also like alone time. I have noticed though that when I AM alone, I only go on the internet and post on forums.

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posted December 07, 2010 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
All right I know it's not all fancy, but really which sign has more of a loner like quality.

Both Cap & Aqua are traditionally ruled by Saturn til Uranus came into the mix, and the trait has been ascribed to both. My vote is with Capricorn, they're quite self-contained.

And what is the deal with Saturn? Maybe someone more versed in mythology can clue me in, Is he more cool with being the lone ranger or is this guy wanting someone close?

Conversely, the types who can't stand to not be in a relationship otherwise they feel dead, or I don't know what goes on in their brain..What are their chart influences, what have you seen?

For that one I'll say prominent Venus, esp. conj the Sun. I have yet to see one Venus conj Sun individual who can stand being alone for a prolonged period of time, we'll say a year. And the orb there has been wide, maybe 8-9 degrees.

So basically, if you fall on either end of that spectrum, loner and quite choosy (unfortunately having to reject those who would like to be close to you) or are you jumping in every which way and don't desire at all to be on your own, what are your influences and do you think you'll ever change? Cos let's face it they're both extreme relating manifestations.

Add your Venus/H7/Libra influences...I'm leaning away from this being a Lunar issue but that could still apply, so put the Moon info as well. Also state your strongest planets.


Yes, I think Capricorns are fine with being alone for long periods of time. They just are very much into their work, etc.. Rather than the needing self-gratification all the time. I have my loner moments with Saturn and Uranus in the first house. Saturn is more restrictive than Capricorn energy because planets are always more potent than a sign placement. Or that is what a I read in Horoscope Signs.

And yes, I know a Scorpio ASC. with Pluto conjunct his ASC. and Venus is opposite his ASC. in the 7th house, he is such a pretty boy (Pisces Sun/ Moon as well), but he has this push-pull tug of either wanting an all consuming relationship or nothing. I've suggested he try online dating or something, but he is very stubborn and would rather be alone.

He is also very picky about who he would date, I think its such a self-protective bubble that he surrounds himself in. I used to have the same problem, but I just risked letting the bubble go and voila it worked!

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posted December 08, 2010 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus conjunct Sun within 2 degrees, and I am not clingy AT ALL. In fact, I've never had a long term relationship. All my relationships have been short term (and no, I have not had a string of them; I have gone years without a single relationship). I would rather have a relationship of QUALITY than quantity or just having a relationship for the sake of a relationship.

Virgo Venus (and Sun)
Venus t-squares Jupiter/Uranus and Chiron (7th)
Venus conjuncts MC and Sun
Venus sextiles Pluto/Saturn
Venus trines Neptune (loosely-4 degrees)
Taurus DC

As far as 'loner' signs go, I think the most loner type people I've ever met are the introverted air signs (Gemini, Libra, Aqua). I would say MOST of the air signs I've met are at least somewhat relational, but the few that I've met that are true introverts seem to stick out like a sore thumb. I think part of the reason for this is that they are so involved in their heads (and are usually creating things) and they are so detached from their emotions that they just seem very self-contained and kind of above it all when they finally do involve themselves in social and relational atmospheres. Most of the super introverted ones that I've encountered have some sort of earth influence in their chart as well.

The only reason Scorpio doesn't also get put on the loner list for me is because I've known TONS of Scorpios, and even the really introverted ones seem able to at least sympathize on some level due to their deep connection with their own emotional nature.

Pisces can sometimes seem very loner like to me as well though...

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posted December 08, 2010 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, it's in Virgo to boot. That's a sign mentioned a lot on this thread for the loner image.

Thanks guys, I'll keep that one in mind
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Enchantress, am wondering the condition of your Mercury?

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posted December 08, 2010 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn Sun
Virgo Moon (square Sun; conjunct Pluto; sextile Mars; trine Asc)
Venus in Sag in the 7th
Mercury and Neptune also in Sag in the 7th
Mercury is my strongest planet (chart ruler)

I spend more time alone, and I think it's because my life doesn't follow societal norms. I don't mind my life at all, but the fact that it is unique is a point of insecurity where relationships are concerned. I'm looking for another well-adjusted person who's also on a peculiar life path to share my life with. That disqualifies most normal people whom are already paired up as it is. It's mostly a case of scarcity that keeps me single for extended periods. I do try to combat the issue with an extra degree of social activity.

There are additional issues in holding a potential mate such as my Virgo Moon trying to demonstrate love rather than sharing it verbally. I expect people to catch that all the little things I do are a token of my appreciation, but some women need the words. I know that, and I'll work on it again once I land in another relationship. I would say that I, for myself, want someone close. Can't speak for all Capricorns.

EDIT: Since vertiver mentioned Saturn in the 1st, I'll point out that I have that as well.

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posted December 08, 2010 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about saturn in the 7th house?

I've read that it may delay marriage, or one may marry someone significantly older, or marry someone whose somewhat of a parental figure and also gives the person a more serious perspective for relationships. Generally these people don't date for fun but for a partner and I suppose eventually marriage. But any thought on whether saturn in the 7th house give a person a more likelihood for being alone?

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posted December 08, 2010 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury is fairly strong in my chart for the fact that it is in Virgo. It doesn't have a huge amount of close aspects to it, but it has enough.

My Mercury is at the end of Virgo in the 10th house. It squares Neptune (end of 1st), sextiles Jupiter (beginning of 1st), and trines Chiron (7th). VERY loosely opposes the Moon (9 degrees). Semi-sextiles Venus/MC/Sun and Saturn/Pluto conjunction.

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posted December 09, 2010 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake,

I find it kind of difficult to explain cuz most people (around me) cant understand how anyone could function like that? Ironically no one ever questions a monk or someone like Krishnamurti why/how they're able to live the lifestyle of a wandering loner.

It's not that I dont like relationships, but for the most part I'm not that interested. Generally, I find them superfluous, something that diverts/breaks apart one's energy of focus. I enjoy being alone, but I get moments where I'd want someone, but they're usually fleeting moments. Since I was 5, I remember telling everyone I never wanted to get married etc. I've always felt like I had to focus gaining knowledge & experience, so what ever I give back to the world would actually be something "useful." I think that's my biggest reason for being alone. Although I think one day, when I've satisfied myself in achieving enough, I would like to find someone.

On a spiritual level, I do know that I'm a very old soul. My chart is filled with 9's mostly, & 1's...which arent exactly 1-1 relationship #'s. I guess you could say I've been there done that enough in past incarnations, this life is about myself & what contributions I could make. I've read a book about the Astrological Evolution of the Soul (I forget the name). What signs/aspects young/mature/old souls tend to pick for what specific purposes. It really makes sense,...how after achieving extroversion, old souls become introverted inorder to look deeply within. Old souls have dealt with & learnt enough how to deal with relationship karma. They then become "pickier," as to whom they get intimately involved with, (subconsciously knowing not to incur more new karma). If I applied that astrologically...Venus-Pluto is known to be a "radar," that only attracts karmic relationships needed for your own soul's growth. I think that's true. I'm super picky to the point most people dont really interest me. The ones who do (rarely happens), I most definitely have deep karmic ties with. I think having 1H Jupiter-Venus-Pluto conjunct is also a double edged sword for me. I've attracted tons of crazies, stalkers, etc. This is another reason why I dont date at all. Unecessary stress is usually created before I even get involved with anyone as friends. My Moon sq. Pluto definitely tries to avoid it as much as possible.

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