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hippichick
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posted December 15, 2010 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A good morning to all!

In my many years of dabbling in astrology, I keep running across the notion that Aquarius is not a good bed mate, but rather a brilliant friend!

By and by, as the years pass and I approach my mid-centinal, I have come to know that Aquarius really sux as a "friend!"

Some of you know my propensity for attracting Aquarius as my Pisces soul is highly Aquarian.

Thus, I always have many Aquas in my life.

They just plain are not good friends. Ignoring, even the most few and far between contacts, putting out a cold and icy demeanor, almost choking on the word "love", no matter how it is used. Cold and blankly wishing happy bdays, holidays, condolences of bereavement, the list goes on and on...

I am raising, well have tried to anyway "raise" an Aqua daughter and she is no exception. She has a Cancer asc and her best gf is a Cancer sun and my kid would almost go to the ends of the earth for her friend, but the buck stops there. I just recently let of of a long time Aqua male friend who's icy sentiments on the recent death of my b-loved grandma made me nauseous.

So I am wondering, why pop astrology calls Aquarius "friends" when they really are not???

Maybe I have answered my own question in examining why Aqua can not be a "lover" but can be a friend, but in that situation, they can not even be friends, evidenced by observing my daughter and a couple of ex-Aqua flames....

I am so confused!

Any and all comments appreciated!!!

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posted December 15, 2010 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep I think that just about sums us up!
We are fabulous friends in a crisis for about 5 minutes. No one better.
Want to leave that dreadful man and strike out on your own?
In 5 mins I wll have you packed up and out, three job interviews lined up and your new place decorated and looking like home before he can say "WTF????

You want to ring me that evening and talk about the momentous decision you have just made?
Are you mad? Now you are just becoming plain needy and I will shake you off like an irritating Maltese Terrier that's trying to mate with my leg.

Don't bother calling me again. I'm done with that. Next!!

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GrlyGirl20
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posted December 15, 2010 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I have to ask, I'm a Cancer Sun but what if its just not the fact that they are Aqua Suns or influenced ppl. For instance I'm not very good at dealing with someone who is grieving. I don't know what to say. It's not that I don't care its just I'm kinda dumbfounded at how to even deal with that. Plus why talk about something negative if its just going to bring you further down. As a friend aren't you supposed to make someone feel better not worse?

What do you mean when you say they aren't good at displays of birthdays or holidays or whatever. I'm not really understanding what it is that they aren't doing enough of. Like if someone says happy birthday or whatever isn't that enough lol. If they get a gift great, but its not a big deal. If they're telling you that and then the actions back up the words I don't understand lol. My poor Cap Moon and 11th house Venus needs you to explain it to me what you mean exactly lol.

I'm a Cancer and I deff need the emotions...BUT TOO much is just horrid...you can't have any relationship that is all emotions lol.

I actually really like Aqua's...at least the ones with SOME sort of water (even if it's just their Mercury). Too much and I can't deal with them as they're too sensitive and more emotional than myself. But usually if they have some sort of Water and at least a little Earth...and minimal Fire we get along just fine. And I agree with bunnies on the needy part lol. I made the mistake of getting WAY much more attached to my Aqua ex (his Moon touched my IC) and yeah...needless to say he WON'T talk to me nor even be my friend. :-( lol

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posted December 15, 2010 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops double post lol

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Ami Anne
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posted December 15, 2010 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My least favorite sign is Aqua,by far lol
My mother has an Aqua Sun combust Mercury in the 12th house.
My best friend has an Aqua ASC and when he starts talking his Aqua stuff, I have to tune out even though he IS a highly evolved Aqua.
Those I can deal with

Since most people,most of us, are not highly evolved,the non highly evolved Aqua is phobic about showing even little displays of love.
They feel like they are losing an organ if they say simple words like "I love you".
At times, they will act loving.However, if you EXPECT it , the next time, they will chop off your head

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posted December 15, 2010 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like a personal problem

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hippichick
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posted December 15, 2010 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bunnies!!! was hoping you were watching!!!

amianne as well!!! no truer words!

girlygirl, it is not in just times of sentiment that i am speaking of. the aquas in my life even suck at business transactions...me to fomrer male aqua friend recently..."via text (and i have so, learned to deal with this particular aqua, keep it light!) hey do you know of any good carbody men? my miata recently manifested a gouge and would like to get it fixed..."

days later..texts me with nothing to do with the inquiry, but his usual stupid, useless flirtations...me "did you get my text re a body shop?" him..."o, Yea!, my hand has been hurting..."

what??????

I have to admit, tho, I do see a bit of my Aqua self in them, but the differenc is, that I will not even go there with someone if I have no intention of keeping in contact.

It is like they just see any sort of interatcion with people as a mere annoyance, and do it just to further themselves along in their days..

ah...well...

lol!!!

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hippichick
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posted December 15, 2010 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
amowls, what do you mean?

I am asking a question that traditional astrology has documented for ever!

So are you saying that listening to tradtional, text book astrology is a personal problem?

Probably the Aqua in me is questioning and attempting to reform traditional astrology!

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GrlyGirl20
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posted December 15, 2010 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL I totally have been that way. I actually take FOREVER to reply to texts. Again its not like i didn't hear you its just sometimes I want to be alone. Plus maybe you didn't make it clear that it was an urgent message. But I understand your annoyance. I do it to my friends all the time...and they do get VERY annoyed lol.

Again what do you mean you have no intention of going there with someone you have no use in keeping contact with? I guess I can't understand this. I know my friends think I'm flaky but the thing is that as a friend you don't have to constantly communicate to be a friend. But maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. Also what is your Venus HippiChick...they say the way someone tends to behave in relationships both romantic and friendship is more in line with the Venus. Perhaps you are meeting Aqua's who have placements that seem to coincide with you.

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posted December 15, 2010 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amwols
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*I* have grown enough to make exceptions for highly evolved Aqua's .Did you notice that

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hippichick
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posted December 15, 2010 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
grlyygirl

I have Venus in Aries, 0. 29 deg. But my birth time is a bit sketchy, so could be in Pisces, but probably in Aries.

I mean, by going there, I, far from demand constant contact from someone and the people who are in my life know this about me, being a Pisces sun, colored by so much Aqua I am as aloof as the next air sign! When somebody texts me, e-mails me, calls me, I will atleast make an attempt to call/text/email back when I can, which is usually in a fair amount of time.

I feel bad if I dont and I think it is an issue of respect. But, now, I have a small circle of "friends" and maybe that is my issue.

Take my sis-in-law for instance, she calls the whole world her "friend." (Virgo sun) she has some 900 FB "friends" and I do not doubt that she has had personal contact with all of them at some point of her life.

If I call someone a friend, I expect atleast a degree of respect, and that is why my circle of friends is so small. I do not desire a well of people from which to draw and I respect people and I know what I can give emotionally to all the individuals in my life. And that is not a whole lot at times.

But again, my question, what is it about traditional astrology that speaks of Aqua as "friends?"

Again...maybe I am trying to reform traditional astrology, maybe I should digress?

Just a question ya'all...

I dont get it!

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted December 15, 2010 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking from experience, 90 percent of my friends on facebook are aquarius or sagitarius, I am a magnet for those two.....Aquarius and Sagitarius are my followers....anyways.


Aquarius people one day realize taht there is something wrong with them. They can't show affection and when they want to, they never learned how. This manifests as them playing some events or happenings in their life, as this allows them to remove themselves as the culprit, they become detached from responsibility, this way their ego can grow, even though it's growing in the wrong direction.

Aquarius people are also really good at making fun of you when you least expect it. Your best aquarius friend will make fun of you during an interview with your boss and tell you that it's your fault for not thinking of a comback....this is true with all aquarians unless they are spiritually advanced. They lack tact for the most part. That is why people say aquarians are initially magnetic...because after five seconds you ask yourself wtf you were thinking......don't get me wrong some aquarians are somewhat balanced, but the propensity for cruelty is amazing in real time since they don't feel what they've done until months later, when they're missing you and crying that they need a friend, and then expecting you to hear about their life story, when they don't even care to ask what your doing at the moment....and by the way never expect an aquarian to admit they are wrong....they simply say they are mis understood.

Here are some times i've found in my aquarian friends room. On the other hand, aquarians are usually only physicaly violent in a group, aquarians very readily fall into a mob mentality when they project.

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posted December 15, 2010 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
roadwarriors

I am totally mezmerized by your post!

That is SO my 18 year old Aqua daughter!

Tho, she is physically violent all by herself, but all you say about Aquas is her, totally!

thank you!!!

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GrlyGirl20
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posted December 15, 2010 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm HippiChick...it might be that your Venus might be in Pisces. I know Aries Venuses and they aren't really all that rigid about respect in texts and whatnot. Do you happen to have some earth? I have a roommate who is an Aqua Mer and Venus...and she is WAY less flaky than I. Her Moon is in Virgo and her Sun is in Cap so she's very particular about being respectful and responding to texts. Me I don't ever intentionally ignore someone. If I have a problem I'll tell...it might be because I have my mind on something else.


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but the propensity for cruelty is amazing in real time since they don't feel what they've done until months later, when they're missing you and crying that they need a friend, and then expecting you to hear about their life story, when they don't even care to ask what your doing at the moment....and by the way never expect an aquarian to admit they are wrong....they simply say they are mis understood

I've seen this...BUT usually only in the Aqua's that have a STRONG amount of Fire. My Aqua ex is like this. He does stuff and doesn't realize its effect until WAY later. Then when he tries to change things its too late. He's actually dealing with that now with his friends in my town. They think he's a jerk (he is SOOOO negative and ALWAYS complains, plus he pouts when things don't go his way) and he moved away so they see no reason to really keep in contact. They didn't shun him, its just he isn't there. Now he feels horrible about things after the fact. I actually see this as being more of an Aries trait than anything else (as in being impulsive and not thinking of the consequences fully).

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posted December 15, 2010 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have any close friends that are Aquas. My Aqua acquaintances are quite warm, though. My roommate's Aquarian father was the person to make me feel the most at home when I had Thanksgiving with them. The Aqua in my improv group is always very up and friendly. The Aqua that started a ministry I've been involved in is always gregarious and warm.

I know a lot of people that don't return communications promptly...or at all, and I've noticed that I do that too sometimes. Sometimes there's nothing more to say.

I can be fairly callous regarding holidays and birthdays, too. I arranged something to do as a friend's Christmas gift this year. It's tonight, and yesterday when it was brought up I'd forgotten about it (and I just arranged it a week ago). Amongst the gifts I'm giving this season it's one of the lowest priority gifts, so...
I'm not in to most holidays and birthdays. Christmas is the biggest holiday exception. The others I could do without. My birthday's the day after Christmas, so I may as well not even have one.

I guess I'm ready to be an Aqua.

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posted December 15, 2010 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People often misinterpret aquas' actions. Their highly impersonal and detached manner is seen as they-dont-give-a-damn or love somebody;their attitude that nothing is absolute or troublesome,philosphical approach to everything- people dont like that,they like emotions,heart wide open...
Huge mistake. They are wonderful friends. Lovers...hm,under specific circumstances only bad thing about them,interestingly human and earthy,is arrogance.

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posted December 15, 2010 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome. Don't get me wrong though, Aquarians are wicked bright and smart....some of my smartest friends are, and they are also paradoxical in nature, as both uranus and saturn rules aquarius, and are somewhat like gemini in that sense. The differnce is there duality is more contrete and centered than a gemini...........

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posted December 15, 2010 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh double quote...I've really got to get a handle on the whole quoting thing lol.

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posted December 15, 2010 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AccousticGod you reminded me something else that's true of all my aquarian friends....they are much nicer to strangers than their own.

In fact, they will accuse you of that. Like I said detachment is not always good. The more you are detached the more liable you are to project. Every second of detatchment is repression, because detachtment is affirmtively suppressing emotions.....this leads to strong projections by aquarians, when they have nothing better to do....imagine you being born under the archtype of inventor without the means by which to do so, you would do the same.

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posted December 15, 2010 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
grlygirl

I have a Taurus moon oppo my Scorp asc, square my Merc, Mars, Jup (close conj) in Aqau opposed (close) to Uranus in Leo.

I am most prb a Aries Venus as I tend to jump into relationships too fast and, Venus being the only Fire in me comes out with passionate issues...such as this one.

AG interesting lament. My kid is half Aqua and half Cap...lol!

Venus no doubt people mis interperate the actions of Aquas, but again I am asking why pop (trational astrology) deems them as these great friends, when I have experirenced otherwise and as my Aqua daughter redily admits!

roadwarrior, O, I do not doubt their positive attributes, have had an ongoing love with Aqua for ever...just wonder why they are called these great friends?

thanks all!!!

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posted December 15, 2010 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarians are rightly ruled by saturn, like capricorn they achieve much later in life, but show great genius and aptitude at an early age....

Aquarians are very good though at doing the things that count when you're really stressed and are also or do quite often easily forgive, these are some of their strong points....but also look for an aquarian to try and make you jealous, it's an ideal detached way to achieve revenge.

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posted December 15, 2010 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, hope it helped and thanks for the feedback....you warmed my heart today simply by acknowledging me...and I hope your heart has been equaly warmed.

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posted December 15, 2010 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
roadwarrio

gotcha! my friend that i just let go of always, always accepted me for who i am...miss him..maybe one day, we shall be friends again. my kid on the other hand is as judgmental as they come!

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posted December 15, 2010 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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AccousticGod you reminded me something else that's true of all my aquarian friends....they are much nicer to strangers than their own.

I didn't realize this was an Aqua trait lol. My mom and friends say to me all the time I'm more friendly and nicer to strangers than I am to people I know lol. I'm not downright mean, but I will say I present well with strangers...I'm really friendly in a group and when first interacting with others. However I'm actually quite introverted and pretty difficult to get to know when it moves to a one on one basis.

Mmmm Hippi...I'm scratching my head at what it could be. Perhaps its these few people you've dealt with. I agree with you on saying that pop astrology says they are good friends. But then you haven't met EVERY single Aquarius so maybe just the one's you've experienced are that way. Also perhaps the judgmental part of your daughter is the Cap...I know Aqua's with Cap or even any earth tend to be a little judgmental.

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posted December 15, 2010 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Traditional astrology needs to have constants,otherwise wouldnt be traditional. And every discipline at its core is traditional,dogmatic,and that's every next generation's starting point. We moved long way astrologically,but aquarius being the natural(traditional) ruler of 11th H which is again natural/traditional house of friends,all that makes situations where we automatically assume aquas=great friends. Although,i never connect 11th H and friendship,not immediately,anyway. But i always see 11th H as house of ideals,and that's very much aquarius.

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