posted December 22, 2010 12:27 PM            

Nessus is retrograde conjunct my IC and trine mercury and uranus....so the story resonates with me....I don't know if i should copyright this info because I'm pretty sure I can also use it predictively....what do you all say...would you like me to devulge the nature of nessus retrograde conjunct IC and it's affect on the home, soule, and significations of the fourth house, especially with regards to the sign energy of leo...would this be osmething people have interest in...if so i may start working on my web site

posted December 22, 2010 12:31 PM            

there is a mystical nature too me and I have been born with the subtle knowledge of sexual transmutation, almost comming to it by chance with no backround in such things - i come from a very consdervative christian home...

anyways..

if anyone would like info on such things....that resonate not only with the mythology but also with modern psychology mostly jungian side....not the biological....and dream analsysis...these things i know how to do for others better than for myself....and tehse things i can do naturaly

I have a genius affinity for symbols....

for instance......I have come to a revelation involving varuna and the feminine side that a discovered through a link in symbology...

this too i can reveal but I am not sure on teh nature of this

and copywrite anyone willing to chime in and help may losen the rock that reveals much.

posted December 23, 2010 03:18 AM            

Both my mom & I have natally, Nessus sq. Venus.

posted December 23, 2010 03:24 AM            

Mars @ 19 Libra in the 3rd
Saturn @ 21 Libra in the 3rd
Ic @ 25 Libra
Pluto @ 26 Libra in the 4th

Venus @ 25 Capricorn in the 6th
Moon @ 27 Capricorn in the 6th

posted December 23, 2010 05:30 AM            

I've nessus conj moon. I know how the pain feels. I work with peoples pain and I know what it is.. I will not ever be frightend to meet and handle this..

posted December 23, 2010 09:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
OK,
NN @ 21'59 Cancer in the 12th
[b]Nessus @ 25 Cancer in the 12th
Asc @ 2 Leo

Mars @ 19 Libra in the 3rd
Saturn @ 21 Libra in the 3rd
Ic @ 25 Libra
Pluto @ 26 Libra in the 4th

Venus @ 25 Capricorn in the 6th
Moon @ 27 Capricorn in the 6th

Mc @ 25 Aries
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Gimme the dirt [/B]

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posted December 23, 2010 09:52 AM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
I've done research on people in my country who I know are one of the best at school. The people who got one of the most exciting job you can get. In our country you can get the birthday through internet. I'm really surprised that I saw how many of this people whom got an very strong nessus in their chart. I'm not finished yet and I still see the same pattern. I cant deny there are something on it.

I've nessus conj moon. I know how the pain feels. I work with peoples pain and I know what it is.. I will not ever be frightend to meet and handle this..

Strong nessus could be dangerous to people who being on a very law level in the society. Crime people can be dangerous with an strong nessus aspect.

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posted December 23, 2010 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
OK,
NN @ 21'59 Cancer in the 12th
[b]Nessus @ 25 Cancer in the 12th
Asc @ 2 Leo

Mars @ 19 Libra in the 3rd
Saturn @ 21 Libra in the 3rd
Ic @ 25 Libra
Pluto @ 26 Libra in the 4th

Venus @ 25 Capricorn in the 6th
Moon @ 27 Capricorn in the 6th

Mc @ 25 Aries
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Gimme the dirt [/B]

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Nessus in the 12th house....self abuse or abuse to others will or could potentialy lead do your downfall.

Nessus in cancer makes it an emotional type of abuse, rather than physical.

Since It's not retrograde, it will probably be easier for you to abuse others, than abuse yourself, or be abused...but in the house of self undueing i'd imagine that it would work both ways, as both ways can lead tgo your downfall.

However, I don't think you abuse people so instead, It's something your hyperaware of.

The 12th house to me is the spirit interaction......the collective sources so to speak............you'd be more aware of teh abuse of large institutions initialy, especialy tried and tested ones that aren't questioned like the prison system or hospitals, or schools, you woul dsee the abuses there...or would notice more the abuse of the collective on the individual or vice versa.

I'd assume you may align with teh collective...
who knows.

posted December 23, 2010 11:59 AM            

It's a triggering point for you.......cancer is probably a really good strong initiatory energy....but remember the negatives of cancer......

abuse might make you moody...especialy the elusive kind you can't pinpoint...

posted December 23, 2010 05:14 PM            

My Water is: Sun Pisces 8th, Jupiter Scorpio 4th, NN Cancer 12th; dominant element is Air.

"Nessus in cancer makes it an emotional type of abuse, rather than physical."
Actually I was abused a lot growing up in emotional matters, so that strongly clicks. It was more psychological than anything else, since I was really quiet/shy/impressionable and never talked back, just sort of took it, never felt that I was good enough to be treated otherwise. Plus I grew up knowing that both of my parents and other family members were sexually attracted to me, so that just made the atmosphere even more strange, it was even more of a reason to keep a lid on things and not say a word.

"you'd be more aware of teh abuse of large institutions initialy, especialy tried and tested ones that aren't questioned like the prison system or hospitals, or schools, you woul dsee the abuses there...or would notice more the abuse of the collective on the individual or vice versa."
Yea, this clicks too. I take these things very personally.

"do you notice alot of backlash and friction when you don't just go with teh flow? or openly lead instead of leading by example?"
Yea, I then encounter resentment. I attract so much attention, you would not believe.. I would love to go by unnoticed (Pisces Sun in the 8th) and not be questioned about every single action I make, everything I say, but it's all up for comment, I have no idea why. Other people do the same things and no one pays attention, but if I do it then it becomes some statement and now its on everyone's mind, as something to agree with and push for, or as something to fight against.

posted December 23, 2010 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Hi road,
I didn't put up the Rx's, didn't even think to add em,
-Mars/Saturn/Pluto Rx in Libra

My Water is: Sun Pisces 8th, Jupiter Scorpio 4th, NN Cancer 12th; dominant element is Air.

"Nessus in cancer makes it an emotional type of abuse, rather than physical."
Actually I was abused a lot growing up in emotional matters, so that strongly clicks. It was more psychological than anything else, since I was really quiet/shy/impressionable and never talked back, just sort of took it, never felt that I was good enough to be treated otherwise. Plus I grew up knowing that both of my parents and other family members were sexually attracted to me, so that just made the atmosphere even more strange, it was even more of a reason to keep a lid on things and not say a word.

"you'd be more aware of teh abuse of large institutions initialy, especialy tried and tested ones that aren't questioned like the prison system or hospitals, or schools, you woul dsee the abuses there...or would notice more the abuse of the collective on the individual or vice versa."
Yea, this clicks too. I take these things very personally.

"do you notice alot of backlash and friction when you don't just go with teh flow? or openly lead instead of leading by example?"
Yea, I then encounter resentment. I attract so much attention, you would not believe.. I would love to go by unnoticed (Pisces Sun in the 8th) and not be questioned about every single action I make, everything I say, but it's all up for comment, I have no idea why. Other people do the same things and no one pays attention, but if I do it then it becomes some [b]statement and now its on everyone's mind, as something to agree with and push for, or as something to fight against.

Oh yea, and I have all 3 outer planets personalized. [/B]

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Thank you for responding with that and helping us both flesh out nessus.

That was very interesting actually. As I have nessus in leo retrograde conjunct the IC....and aspecting planets because of that...

I can relate to nessus in leo retrograde if anyone has that let me know and ill try to make a prediction based on it....

finaly...I really see now how strange this is, that all of us have a strong 8th or 12th house influence...I cannot begin to also stress teh transplutonian neptune influence as well that I've been made aware of.

IT's eries......we have to consider however that perhaps we are teh beats of teh zodiac and we are more drawn to....perhaps all 8th housers and 12th housesr have carried this practice on their back for a long time...

All i know is that i finally unerstand being plutonia...and it's implications...

In fact I am being aware now of some karmic things that I have done and not even noticed...how pholus has effected me as welll....

posted December 23, 2010 07:57 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
finaly...I really see now how strange this is, that all of us have a strong 8th or 12th house influence...I cannot begin to also stress teh transplutonian neptune influence as well that I've been made aware of.

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posted December 24, 2010 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Agent_009:
ROAD,

Both my mom & I have natally, Nessus sq. Venus.

We've both experienced first hand it's dangers...it's not pleasant.

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I have Nessus Square Venus..
Why is it so bad?

posted December 24, 2010 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by LadyAries*:
I have Nessus Square Venus..
Why is it so bad?

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it's not inherently bad....

posted December 24, 2010 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
I have Orcus conj Asc, less than a degree.
Maybe you can enlighten?

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posted December 24, 2010 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
it's not inherently bad....

I can't tell by just the square...sign and house of each.

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Venus in Gemini, 1st house, conjunct asc.
Nessus in Virgo, 4th house, square asc.

posted December 25, 2010 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
I have Orcus conj Asc, less than a degree.
Maybe you can enlighten?

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I find that orcus represents heavily the promise or the oath or the power there in which lies in words to heal. If someone doesn't keep their promise to you or vice versa, i'd imagine some funky things going on with the energetics.

or vice versa....in leo.....there can be dramatic ways of letting people know this.

By taking verbal action, without the verbal action being effective, it could results in you breaking things ina dramatic tantrum....

it's really powerful...in fact i think orcus is very very very heavy in my life...

I can feel my words tear apart my soul, or build it up.

there's more ofcourse....
i'm really tired today and i've had some issues here at the house.

Orcus is more than a promise do due something mundane...it is when we violate are long term oaths....over time...it has the plutonian effect to send us into the underworld....it doesn't mean your going to suffer some strange thing every time you fail to keep a promise, but rather in the 1st house, i ti sa definining aspect for you in developing your personality to examine such things, as that exemplified by the oath....

Orcus in my third house retrograde in leo...with a great deal of aspects makes me physicaly ill every time I violate my spiritual oaths verbaly to my brother sisters, or eclipse it with my lower mind...

posted December 25, 2010 08:41 PM            

She has Moon in Scorpio in 5th oppose Nessus in Taurus in 11th with 3 minutes of arc.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted December 25, 2010 08:45 PM            

it's a sharp pain and you will either seek to punsih the person in a humiliatory way dramatic and infront of others....or you will hold back and think or be calmed...

posted December 26, 2010 08:15 AM            

Popcorn, I was thinking of your study of the prominent doctors.
One of my dear friends has Nessus conjunct the Sun.He is a mechanical engineer.

You deal with life and death issues. I notice that he can deal with deep ,scary issues and not flinch.

THIS is my current thinking.
If a person has a prominent Nessus ,a person can BRING their problems to them and the person will understand.

I think it gives someone great depth.
When you are hurting,you need to go to people who will not spurn you.
Nessus gives great gifts, too,I think.

Perhaps, the person is called on to grow in their own depth BEFORE they can use it,though.
Perhaps, the person needs to confront the darkness within ,claim and own it before they can help another.

What does anyone think?