posted December 22, 2010 01:20 PM            

I believe the sollution is in removing nessus non violently, as hercules violent action caused nessus to poison him indirectly. Perhaps if hercules would have highered another to do the job, or used another faculty of heroism, via perseus, or odyseus, herculean less violent forms of the ego.

the water signs fire signs and airs igns show the different manifestations and teh houses show where.

posted December 22, 2010 02:24 PM            

Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
conjunct Quaoar in 2'22 Scorpio
trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces
quincunx Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R

Ixion is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate and plutino.
Ixion's orbital period is a year apart from Pluto's.

plutinos have 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune. For every time Neptune orbits 3 times, plutinos orbit twice.

That's the same with Pluto. That's why objects that orbit like Pluto are classed as plutinos.

As a rule, plutinos are named after Underworld characters. Ixion's name was chosen because of Ixion being punished in Tartarus which is the Greek version of Hell.

He was known as the first mortal murderer.
No mortal would purify him for his crime.
Zeus agreed to purify him. Ixion was given a second chance. Ixion was a guest at Zeus' home. Ixion betrayed his host's trust and showed lack of gratitude by coming onto to Hera. She told Zeus.
Zeus tested Ixion by making a fake Hera out of a cloud. Ixion mated with it,and that led to the conception of Centaurus who mated with a mare which led to centaurs being born. Ixion was punished by being bound to a flaming wheel in Tartarus.

The themes Ixion are second chances, guest/host relationship, gratitude/ingratitude,karma, lust

as a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate and plutino, evolutionary intensification,transformation,death,intensity,sexual

I found out my placement in 2001 after its discovery was announced. At the time of its discovery, it was thought to be larger than Ceres. It was believed to be over 1,000 km in diameter. It is now believed to be about 650 km in diameter. I was looking forward to it being named. I even checked out names that would fit the object. Out of all of them, I preferred Inanna because she was the Sumerian Goddess of Love/Fertility that was killed in the Underworld and was resurrected after 3 days.
I was very disappointed that it was named after a mortal. I wasn't crazy about having my Sun in a near exact conjunction an object that was named after a wicked mythical character.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted December 22, 2010 02:29 PM            

Ixion: Father of the Centaurs, and not a particularly nice fellow. Orbital Period: 246.78 yr.

Positive - understands karmic wheel, gives and uses a second chance, discerning

Negative - lustful, inconsiderate, inclined to repeat errors, learns nothing from experience

Mundane - second efforts and chances, reset buttons, cloud seeding, study of weather, watching clouds, lust or coveting of another's mate

Ceremonial - rain dances, purging fires, seeking master healers

Nessus: Ferryman at the River Evenus. Orbital Period: 120.76 yr.

Positive - generous, benevolent, compassionate, willing to lend a helping hand, cooperative, respectful of boundaries, aware of the power of life force energy, healthy use of sexual energy

Negative - coveting, possessive, jealous, vengeful, manipulative, resorting to negative alchemy for personal gain, negative use of sexual energy

Mundane - bad blood between parties, feuds over money especially regarding relationship dissolution, diseases transmitted by blood, transport ferries over water, potions, tonics and elixirs designed to cast spells, therapy specifically designed for healing sexual or monetary issues

Ceremonial - prosperity ceremonies, sexual healing rituals, ceremonies involving Earth fertility

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted December 23, 2010 12:02 PM            

Anything at all will be greatly appreciated...as having it conjunct sun probably brings similar lessons to having neptune coonjunct sun by 10 degrees...which i feel lis like wanting neptune conjunct sun at 0 degrees, and tasting it, but it forever being out of reach.

posted December 23, 2010 12:28 PM            

I also want to point out that Ixion is not asteroid. It's a transneptunian plutino. It's like Pluto in its orbit and composition.

Asteroids are rock objects that orbit in the inner regions of the solar system.

Transneptunians are icy,rock objects that orbit in the outer regions of the solar system.

Before Chiron was discovered in 1977, all minor planets were asteroids.

Chiron didn't fit the mold as an asteroid. It was the first minor planet that was not an asteroid discovered. Well, technically Pluto was the first minor planet that was not an asteroid discovered, but that wasn't determined until 2006.

Then in 1990's, astronomers started discovering more centaurs (besides Chiron) and transneptunians (besides Pluto) making it more difficult to refer to refer to minor planets in general as asteroids.

Before Chiron was discovered, all minor planets were asteroids.

The first 4 asteroids discovered, Ceres,Pallas,Juno,and Vesta were known as planets. Then 40 years after the discovery of Vesta, Astraea was discovered. Then astronomers started scratching their heads, and as they found more objects. They realized that they were not planets. Therefore, they came up with the category of asteroids. Ceres,Pallas,Juno,and Vesta were removed from the planet category and thrown into the asteroid category.
In 2006, Ceres got promoted to dwarf planet and has equal astronomical status with Pluto,Eris,Makemake,and Haumea.

more objects will join with them

Sedna,Orcus,Varuna,Quaoar,Ixion (named transneptunian dwarf planets from largest to smallest)
as well as other unnamed big transneptunian objects.

2007 OR10 is nicknamed Snow White, and its size is between that of Sedna and Orcus, making it the largest unnamed transneptunian object.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted December 23, 2010 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:
shrugs
I am not seeing Ixion being related to forgiveness. That's just my opinion though.

I also want to point out that Ixion is not asteroid. It's a transneptunian plutino. It's like Pluto in its orbit and composition.

Asteroids are rock objects that orbit in the inner regions of the solar system.

Transneptunians are icy,rock objects that orbit in the outer regions of the solar system.

Before Chiron was discovered in 1977, all minor planets were asteroids.

Chiron didn't fit the mold as an asteroid. It was the first minor planet that was not an asteroid discovered. Well, technically Pluto was the first minor planet that was not an asteroid discovered, but that wasn't determined until 2006.

Then in 1990's, astronomers started discovering more centaurs (besides Chiron) and transneptunians (besides Pluto) making it more difficult to refer to refer to minor planets in general as asteroids.

Before Chiron was discovered, all minor planets were asteroids.

The first 4 asteroids discovered, Ceres,Pallas,Juno,and Vesta were known as planets. Then 40 years after the discovery of Vesta, Astraea was discovered. Then astronomers started scratching their heads, and as they found more objects. They realized that they were not planets. Therefore, they came up with the category of asteroids. Ceres,Pallas,Juno,and Vesta were removed from the planet category and thrown into the asteroid category.
In 2006, Ceres got promoted to dwarf planet and has equal astronomical status with Pluto,Eris,Makemake,and Haumea.

more objects will join with them

Sedna,Orcus,Varuna,Quaoar,Ixion (named transneptunian dwarf planets from largest to smallest)
as well as other unnamed big transneptunian objects.

2007 OR10 is nicknamed Snow White, and its size is between that of Sedna and Orcus, making it the largest unnamed transneptunian object.

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Thank you Glaucus for that history lesson...I won't have to assimilate that on my own now! I really do respect that sir! also I understand the signature quotation now and find it very humorous.

posted February 08, 2011 03:17 PM            

I'm also not entirely sure how it works out in my chart.

I think....

If it has to do with 2nd chances and betrayal, well, I'd say I've experienced both,I've started fresh quite a few times. The last time I came back from a near death experience. Usually other people are the one's doing the betraying or I get involved with the wrong people and wind up having to be forgiven for picking the wrong battles.

Ixion Scorpio 5th house

sextile Moon
conjunct Uranus
conjunct North Node
conjunct Vertex
Opp BML
conjunct Juno
Trine Pholus
quincunx Eris
Trine Nessus
conjunct Quaoar
Opp Sedna
quincunx Varuna
Trine Midheaven

Pholus is another one that could be major in my chart.

I guess Pholus has to do with change? I've had lots of change in my life. I've had to change myself on multiple occasions for other people or for something that I wanted to do and/or "be". I've also had trouble pinning down what to do for a career.

Pholus Rx conjunct my Midheaven in Pisces 0 degrees

Pholus opposite Moon
Trine Uranus
Square Neptune
quincunx Pluto
trine North Node
semi square Chiron Rx
Trine Vertex
sexile BML
Opp Ceres
trine Juno
sesquisquare Vesta
semisextile Eris
trine Nessus
trine Ixion
sesquisquare Orcus
trine Quaoar
square Varuna

Nessus Rx Cancer 1st house
Eris Rx Aries 10th
Sedna Rx Taurus 11th
Varuna Rx Gemini 12th
Orcus Rx Cancer 1st house
Quaoar Scorpio 5th

posted February 08, 2011 03:26 PM            

Also ixion is the father of the centaur, so when we don't give second chances i have this feeling that these centaur monsters in us are created in a sense, rather than peace and unity...what do you say to that?

posted February 08, 2011 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Can you explain Pholus ,Road. My friend has it prominent in her chart and I have no idea about it,

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Pholus is the centaur who was poisoned by an arrow hercules was going to use to defeat the other centaurs....pholus is least like a centaur than all the centaurs....

Pholus is kidn of like chiron, except he swings between saturn and neptune....the ideals and the limitations are reconciled through transformative processes involving pholus the asteroids...house and sign will demonstrate the prrominence and area, in aries pholus will be a big issue with the person, noticeable, in the 11th house it will effect dreams hopes, wishes, luck etc...

for me pholus is this...

learning to teach the ideals of a purified neptune - follow the virtues, it is the only way to purify the ideals, and then teach them - saturn....pholus experiences make me aware of how the student can poison the teacher, or vice versa, it makes one hyper aware of poison...in a metaphysical sense....i am aware how people's hopes wishes and dreams can poison there wisdom, and when they think they are being heroes, they are actually poisoning others.. I know this because life experience has taught it to me...it wasn't a matter of learning it in a classroom....however i do believe heavily in syncronicity and taht the mythologies are the microcosm within which ellude to the outside realities..

the reason there are different versions of mythology only serve to prove this point more...each version is a vibratory position of the same string...like the three religions that are big now, are really the same giant bohemoth in vibration.

posted July 22, 2014 01:29 PM            

T Ura is approaching my Pholus apex by 2 degrees. In may 2015 it will conjunct my pholus....

Geez; hopefully is a good turning point and change.