Lindaland
  Astrology 2.0
  insights please? on why I can't be touched/loved

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   insights please? on why I can't be touched/loved
mel0nfish
Newflake

Posts: 19
From:
Registered: Dec 2010

posted December 22, 2010 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mel0nfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my chart: http://i56.tinypic.com/e8mnol.gif

I've always had trouble with relationships! as in...i've never been in one? I freeze up when it comes to love/romance! Esp...physically! Is there anything in my natal chart that would make me fear touching people?!?

I've never been kissed or done anything intimate! I can't dance with a guy (only girl friends and only if it's bouncy/fun dancing not sexy seductive dancing.) I have "cheeked" every guy who has tried to kiss me, not intentionally i just like...gasp and turn away when I realize and then they run! I only hug really close friends, feel awkward hugging acquaintances or people i've just met...


I feel very...disconnected, I guess and want to start a relationship/change. I feel like seeing if it's in my natal chart can help me get over this.

IP: Logged

Chaos
Knowflake

Posts: 70
From: Serbia
Registered: Aug 2010

posted December 22, 2010 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm...closed personality, many planets in 12th house/around ASC, a bit of a codger type, turned to yourself mainly...

Also, it seems you expect A LOT from others & analyze their every act towards you, you don't trust them easily either...Some self-esteem issues might be the cause, you might not even trust your own self enough? You need to learn to relax, gain some more confidence, things will change with time...

You're still young, as I see, you're born in 1990, you'll open up eventually. I have a friend with similar chart look, she's Leo though, with Leo asc, but has a lot of planets in 12th & around ASC, she was very closed & withdrawn in her early youth, shes 28 now, and just starting to open up & it's going well for her, she goes out, has fun, flirts with boys, enjoys their affection...Yeah, she still hasn't got a steady boyfriend, but I guess she needs a bit more time & she'll find someone. She made progress & learned how to trust herself & others, that's a big thing...

I guess you'll change in that way too, as the time passes...don't worry!

IP: Logged

Yana
Newflake

Posts: 6
From:
Registered: Oct 2010

posted December 22, 2010 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mel0nfish, reading your post I was thinking "I wonder if she has venus in capricorn" and you do! not only that, but a whole stellium, whoa. All that capricorn influence can be restricting when it comes to taking it easy and opening up, it may even make you feel at times too rigid, too "professional" even in totally informal situations. With a sag moon in the eleventh maybe you feel as if that's not the way you should be dealing with others, or that that's not normal for someone your age, maybe you feel that you're not being true to yourself?

I'm not a professional astrologer so take everything I say with a grain of salt, but I think it will get better with time. You look like such a loving person and having a concrete wall between you and other people must be really hard, the best advice I can give you is rely on your friends, try to open up to them as much as you need, they'll help you know your boundaries and knowing your boundaries and accepting them will make your life easier. Just don't push yourself, give yourself the time you need.

IP: Logged

Glaucus
Knowflake

Posts: 4860
From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009

posted December 22, 2010 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Your Venus is not only the reserved sign of Capricorn which is ruled by Saturn, it is also retrograde. You have Saturn rising. It's in the 12th conjunct your Ascendant/oppose your Descendant. This could point to a reserved way of relating with others which could restrict your opportunities to have a partner.

Retrograde objects tend to have a bad reputation. There can be delays in love and relationships. It can be a more introspective,inward,reflective type thing. Some say that there can be karmic past life issues in relationships,love.

Venus rules your 4th house with Taurus being on your IC (4th house cusp)
It makes me wonder if the issues that you have with love,relationships is connected to the homelife. Venus also rules your 9th house with Libra on your 9th house cusp. It makes me wonder if belief systems and cultural issues are involved. Your 7th house ruler Moon in Sagittarius also suggests the same thing. Transiting Saturn is in your 9th house and squaring your chart ruler Saturn in 12th which also suggest that there are serious karmic lessons involving beliefs and spirituality.


Futhermore, your 7th house ruler Moon is closely quincunx retrograde Chiron in Cancer which could suggest relationship issues in connection to close female people in life being hurt in some way. Issues with family including especially the mother could be a factor in relationship problems which require the need to make adjustments.

Your Chiron is opposition to the conjunction of 5th house ruler Mercury and Neptune in 12th which indicate the possibiity of having a possible secret romantic attraction for a person that might have led to some pain.
It could also indicate the possibility of fearing to communicate and express yourself with others in romance because you don't to be hurt. It could be that a potential romance was idealized and that there was deception involved.


There is the possibility of being attracted to people that are much older than you while you're young. When you get to a very mature age, you might end up being attracted to somebody much younger than you.

It is also possible there could be an attraction to somebody who is a different culture or has different beliefs from you, but there is the possibility that your family might not approve.


Transiting Jupiter-Uranus conjunction is sextiling your Venus, and so you have an opportunity for love,romance that can come unexpectedly. The transiting Jupiter-Uranus conjunction is in your 2nd house, and so it's connected to self worth. This is a time to make changes and free yourself from patterns that limit your self worth. You have to be secure in yourself before you find love. Love yourself,and then you will find love.

Transiting Saturn square your Saturn-Ascendant conjunction/Descendant opposition can be a transit that indicates that you can feel more insecure about yourself and how you relate with others which affects your opportunities to have a partner. You have to keep yourself from being depressed no matter how tough things seem to be. This is a transit that calls for patience,perseverance,self control, and "keeping it real" It can be a very karmic period.

Your Sun rules the 8th house with Leo being on your 8th house cusp. The Sun is in Aquarius,and this suggests that there can be significant detachment when it comes to intimacy. Uranus conjuncting your 5th house ruler Mercury also suggest the same thing.
It coud also indicate that romance can come unexpectedly. Children can too for that matter. The Sun in Aquarius closely quincunx 11th house ruler Jupiter and your Moon in Sagittarius in 11th which also suggests that freedom could be an issue. Once you get intimately involved to the point of commitment, there might be a feeling of your freedom,independence being taken away.


Your Juno is conjunct Pluto in Scorpio which suggests that if you are in a relationship, it can be very intense and be about transformation. There could be issues with jealousy. There is also the potential for betrayal in a relationship leading to trust issues. Saturn is sextile, and so it is suggesting the opportunity to have relationships that involve maturity,stability,and security. With the Juno-Pluto conjunction in Scorpio in 10th sextile Saturn, the relationship could involved somebody that is career-oriented and ambitious as well as concerned with social status. There is the possibility of your social status being elevated because of your relationship. Venus in Capricorn also suggests that.

------------------
No..I am not a Virgo.

Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

IP: Logged

mel0nfish
Newflake

Posts: 19
From:
Registered: Dec 2010

posted December 22, 2010 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mel0nfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is all too true!! I was hoping there would be something more in my chart to balance out all the "reserved, serious" parts...or would indicate I would find love...young I guess?


quote:
Originally posted by Yana:

...With a sag moon in the eleventh maybe you feel as if that's not the way you should be dealing with others, or that that's not normal for someone your age, maybe you feel that you're not being true to yourself?...

...You look like such a loving person and having a concrete wall between you and other people must be really hard...


YES! I do! I feel so shy and awkward near people I like, and like I just want to get away from them...like I'll feel really overwhelmed and have to leave the room or something. This is only when I know they have feelings for me too...

but then as soon as I'm alone I wish I could be comfortable near them, close to them...Idk I feel like I'm not describing it very well...but I really really would love to be in a relationship but I feel like I physically...can't!! I always wonder why I'm so confusing...and I guess confuse others too...

I guess...at least I have amazing friendships

IP: Logged

raspberri
Knowflake

Posts: 2541
From: venus
Registered: Jan 2010

posted December 22, 2010 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus Rx and I was a late bloomer in the sex dept.
But that was only because when I was younger I felt that I haven't yet met the person I was gonna be with or trust.
My Venus went direct when I was 5, but it stayed at that same degree until I was almost an adult. I guess around 2005/2006.

I have Venus in Gemini in the 9th house.

I met someone who I was meant to meet after I moved some place new. I simply see it as destiny and that I was meant to save up all of my love for this person.
That's how I interpret natal Venus Rx.
The person has some very intense destiny happening for them. They just have to recognize it.

IP: Logged

mel0nfish
Newflake

Posts: 19
From:
Registered: Dec 2010

posted December 23, 2010 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mel0nfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by raspberri:
I have Venus Rx and I was a late bloomer in the sex dept.
But that was only because when I was younger I felt that I haven't yet met the person I was gonna be with or trust.
My Venus went direct when I was 5, but it stayed at that same degree until I was almost an adult. I guess around 2005/2006.

I have Venus in Gemini in the 9th house.

I met someone who I was meant to meet after I moved some place new. I simply see it as destiny and that I was meant to save up all of my love for this person.
That's how I interpret natal Venus Rx.
The person has some very intense destiny happening for them. They just have to recognize it.


Sorry I'm fairly knew to astrology/charts! How do you know when it goes direct or changes degrees? Is there a specific chart I should look at?

IP: Logged

Unconquerable
Newflake

Posts: 23
From: Vulcan
Registered: Oct 2010

posted December 23, 2010 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unconquerable     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi melOnfish! I don't know much about astrology, so I'm just giving a psychological explanation of your problem...I'm thinking of a hypothetical situation that you may or may not relate to...

Ok,so, Did you have a very dominating person in your childhood,very close to you,whom you could'nt avoid, maybe one of your parents? Who wanted you to behave in a particular disciplined manner and criticised your natural way to express yourself and your emotions and may be because of it you turned inwards and did'nt express your feelings naturally from then on, fearing if expressing your feelings in the natural way, as they come to you would'nt be morally right or you started fearing people's ridicule or fearing that they would'nt accept you as you are. And so may be this made you unsure of your feelings and you now avoid displaying them in front of people, except those who are very close to you...may be that's why you now have trouble expressing yourself in relationships.

IP: Logged

mel0nfish
Newflake

Posts: 19
From:
Registered: Dec 2010

posted December 23, 2010 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mel0nfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Unconquerable:
Hi melOnfish! I don't know much about astrology, so I'm just giving a psychological explanation of your problem...I'm thinking of a hypothetical situation that you may or may not relate to...

Ok,so, Did you have a very dominating person in your childhood,very close to you,whom you could'nt avoid, maybe one of your parents? Who wanted you to behave in a particular disciplined manner and criticised your natural way to express yourself and your emotions and may be because of it you turned inwards and did'nt express your feelings naturally from then on, fearing if expressing your feelings in the natural way, as they come to you would'nt be morally right or you started fearing people's ridicule or fearing that they would'nt accept you as you are. And so may be this made you unsure of your feelings and you now avoid displaying them in front of people, except those who are very close to you...may be that's why you now have trouble expressing yourself in relationships.


Yes...that's pretty much how all the important figures in my life were, like both of my parents were, and my older sis! and on occasion my older brother, who was always helpful/kind and always listened to me but still tried disregarding feelings (he's a Sagittarius!)

Now that I think about it my sisters a Cap! and was like a third parent figure for me (my parents always told me to listen to her like she was my mom! punishing me, giving chores etc.) so it's funny that my chart has so much Capricorn and she had a lot to do with who I am...on the outside at least/what I repress! I never really felt accepted by my fam.
hmmmmm!!!


astrology as therapy lol

IP: Logged

Unconquerable
Newflake

Posts: 23
From: Vulcan
Registered: Oct 2010

posted December 25, 2010 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unconquerable     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really feel for you!
My father also criticised me a lot, he was very short-tempered and I was scared of him, but now he has changed. I had absolutely no self-confidence, but after reading Linda's books and other books on spirituality I became confident of myself and conquered many of my fears. I don't know how it worked, but it really helped me.

IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 3607
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted December 25, 2010 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could stem all the way back to when you were an infant. Perhaps you weren't held a lot. Either way (astrology or psychology...or both), it can be overcome. Start with holding hands and cuddling. When you find the right guy, it won't be too difficult to get over.

------------------
"The stars which shone over Babylon and the stable in Bethlehem still shine as brightly over the Empire State Building and your front yard today. They perform their cycles with the same mathematical precision, and they will continue to affect each thing on earth, including man, as long as the earth exists." Linda Goodman

IP: Logged

Anonymoose
Newflake

Posts: 5
From:
Registered: Dec 2010

posted December 25, 2010 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anonymoose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually had a girlfriend of 2-years a lot like this, a Leo. I actually find it amazing how she's evolved as a person over the years.

Though early on I feared some kind of abuse in her past, as she consistently withdrew herself in all regards. Fast forward to today and she's
outgoing, healthy and one of the happiest people I know.

Just focus on getting to know yourself, self-improvement is key. Don't be afraid to try new things. Sure, sometimes you get hurt, but that really does build character.

Best wishes

IP: Logged

PlutoSquared
Moderator

Posts: 2315
From: Mars
Registered: Aug 2010

posted December 25, 2010 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AnonyMoose! WHAT A GREAT NAME! Hahaha. Welcome to LINDALAND!

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2010

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a