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libralove
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posted December 22, 2010 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libralove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello All,

I have venus opp. saturn with this guy i really like. (i'm the venus and he is saturn.) I can tell he likes me too. I can see it in his eyes, and feel it when we are close. (btw he is a scorpio) but we can't seem to get things started. He hints at things, but does not initiate anything, and when i try to initiate things he backs off.

So my question is: is there anyway to counteract a venus opp. saturn in synastry? or is this aspect dead set on keeping us apart?

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Chaos
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posted December 22, 2010 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I don't know, but Cafeastrology.com says:

" Although this relationship may begin with a strong feeling of comfort and compatibility, over time, some very challenging dynamics are likely to surface. The Saturn person, fearing the Venus person's withdrawal of affection, loyalty, or respect, can easily become critical or demanding of the Venus person. In response to Saturn's critical demeanor, Venus may withhold affection. A vicious circle can quickly occur. The Venus person could begin to view the Saturn person as unsympathetic, and the Saturn person could come to view the Venus person as childish and undisciplined. Care should be taken to avoid getting into this negative cycle. It will be important for you to maintain an adequate social life, as the tendency with this interchart aspect is to appease one another's jealous nature by cutting oneself off from hobbies, social activities, and pleasures outside of the relationship. You may be critical of one another's tastes and hobbies, but at the root of this is some form of jealousy over the attention that you give to outside interests. Commitment and loyalty to one another will be vital, but also the source of some friction. "

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libralove
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posted December 22, 2010 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libralove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Chaos,

But I also heard that venus opp. saturn can also serve to put up a wall and restrict people from coming together.

So my question is, is there anything to do the counteract this?

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VenusDiSirius
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posted December 22, 2010 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't u post his chart?

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libralove
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posted December 22, 2010 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libralove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is our synastry chart

and this is his chart

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VenusDiSirius
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posted December 22, 2010 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Women should never initiate anything,regarding love,with Men with strong capricorn. Ever. With them there must be a solid frame of prim&proper about women. Only when they make a move,and later on when there is a relationship,you can be full in all your venus power.
It's quite the shame that cappies are like that... Capricorn being mars' child
Also,i think your fella is comfortable with unconventional type of relationship...
Doesn't answer your question,but maybe u will more on the clear with him..

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Nine
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posted December 22, 2010 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
But I also heard that venus opp. saturn can also serve to put up a wall and restrict people from coming together.

I'm sure there are couples who have surmounted that hurdle before.

I doubt the dynamics implied by this aspect will show itself outside of a relationship. Chances are you guys aren't together due to a lack of chemistry, or the planets are out of alignment.

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libralove
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posted December 22, 2010 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libralove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt it. We have A LOT of chemistry, when we are on the same wavelength. It's just that he always retreats and restricts himself.

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bubbles
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posted December 22, 2010 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bubbles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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libralove
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posted December 22, 2010 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libralove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting. I am the venus and I don't feel the pressure, or maybe it's just because i want a serious relationship too. my saturn conjuncts his venus, while his saturn opposes my venus. Maybe we are putting too much pressure on each other, equally.

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bubbles
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posted December 23, 2010 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bubbles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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curiouswoman
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posted February 16, 2012 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi libra love, can you please tell u what happened with this guy, i have the exact aspect with someone i know

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aquaguy91
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posted February 16, 2012 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had my saturn squaring a girls venus once,and a whole lot of other saturn stuff going on,i was mostly the saturn person,she was venus,the weird thing is that the interpretations say its the saturn person who backs away,but she was the one who would back away from me. there was an intense connection between us,definitely karmic stuff,we had a great amount of love but circumstances made it impossible to be together,they dont call it the romeo and juliet aspect for nothing, it was the best relationship while it lasted but the worst heartbreak i will ever experience, no more saturn venus hard aspects for me :/

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aquaguy91
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posted February 16, 2012 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had my saturn squaring a girls venus once,and a whole lot of other saturn stuff going on,i was mostly the saturn person,she was venus,the weird thing is that the interpretations say its the saturn person who backs away,but she was the one who would back away from me. there was an intense connection between us,definitely karmic stuff,we had a great amount of love but circumstances made it impossible to be together,they dont call it the romeo and juliet aspect for nothing, it was the best relationship while it lasted but the worst heartbreak i will ever experience, no more saturn venus hard aspects for me :/

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ariesdragon
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posted February 16, 2012 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is from IQ


Saturn is the ultimate glue. My wife and I have Saturn square Saturn, Saturn opposite Venus and Saturn opposite Mars.
Once we know how the square manifests, we can anticipate it in the next transit and prevent a lot of damage.
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starmoon
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posted February 17, 2012 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am venus my bf is saturn and we have it opposite at 3 degrees. so... not so great. but, we have tons of other great venus, moon and sun contacts and a saturn trine saturn. we have been together over 1 year now and i, for one, do not feel this effect at all. i would think there are other factors as to why you cannot get close to this guy - tvenus opp saturn wouldn't inhibit the start of a relationship. my understanding is that it might contribute to the demise of one though.

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Lava Flower
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posted February 17, 2012 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You two have some intense aspects, moon- pluto, out of sign sun conjunct sun, your angles are conjunct.. the promise of a very transformative union. And saturn is the ultimate glue, and you guys have the DW.

I have personally experienced saturn opposite venus.. I was venus i have to say, it was binding and painful. We had chiron-venus going on so that softened it a little, yet we could not make "us" official due to circumstances that were beyond our control. We still love each other deeply, and if the opportunity comes to create something with our love, we will. For now, it is indeed tragic. And i wanted to add, there is A LOT keeping us apart, (especially previously made commitments and mistakes) we go way back. If that is not the case for you two, i don't see why ego related issues cannot be overcome with understanding and patience IF this is something both of you desire.

And with a DW, its different. Although im sure it turns into a square in the composite, both of you are "on the same page" regarding what has to be done so to speak. I have found this article on saturn-venus to be very informative http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/08/03/synastry-studies-rethinking-venussaturn/

Also, you guys have some powerful conjunctions. Neptune-venus (romantic, idealistic, sometimes creates illusions), moon-pluto (very intense, deep feelings, manipulation) pluto-sun (obsessive, domination, transformation) mars-asc (very, very sexual).

I have read that pluto wants to bury anything it touches, and i have indeed experienced that. Awareness will be very important in this relationship.

Asteroids are very informative as well. Valentive, amor, juno, aphrodite, angel, adonis, eros, psyche etc.

Good luck and remember, it all boils down to free will

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SaggiMC
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posted February 17, 2012 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What orbs are you using?

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for syn bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages –at a glance planet to planet. Scroll down to last page and *aspect grid* (ONLY for syn bi wheel) THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…

problem is uploading to photobucket you have to change this from abode format into a picture. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid/bit in front of you,on screen then( if bit big press ctrl and - to reduce image). the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart press IMG and past link into thread.... done

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mintgirl123
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posted February 17, 2012 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you guys get together there will be this really restrictive flavour in your interactions a few months into the relationship.

Venus hard aspect saturn DW, and also saturn conjunct mercury.

Also there might be alittle power struggles (with the sun conjunct pluto and moon conjunct pluto)

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curiouswoman
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posted July 25, 2012 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi libralove,

I actually am starting to feel the effect of this. me venus showing affection makes saturn withdraw. how do i get him to trust?

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