posted December 23, 2010 01:36 PM            

Destinn might not only relate to destiny, it might relate to the things that Emmy Destinn was known for.

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posted December 23, 2010 01:59 PM            

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posted December 23, 2010 03:19 PM            

As well as a womans psyche exactly conjunct a mans amor, how is that necessarily different from his eros?

posted December 23, 2010 05:19 PM            

Destinn
Though this Asteroid as Glaucus pointed out was named after Emily Destinn, it stands that the word for her name is still derived from the already mentioned origins of Middle English.
Destin is just that..the places and aspects it touches show where you were able to see the hand of destiny or there was a feeling of predetermination or fate around the areas it touches and its usually under these areas that you learn that you really have no control until you become the observer. Otherwise you cannot operate outside of the Ego properly and lower based emotions and situations will rope you like a flying wild horse finally after enough ropes the horse is then broken to essentially be controlled...sound familiar?
Its a great Asteroid to explore for people who feel trapped in there lifes experiences.

Amor
The Asteroid is the the kind of love that exist between twin flames. It is the kind that does not allow for lower based actions.
It has a resonance simliar to Neptune as it is the higher octave of Venus.
When Amor exists then we accept that person for who they are and they accept us for who we are...Amor keeps you from taking things personally, and making assumptions. If you can do those two things consistenly in a romantic relationship then there can grow between you the sort of idealized love that everyone wants but it takes two fertiles hearts and completely balanced Energies and that takes some hard work deep in the trenches of your Souls existences....and I feel that being able to display this type of love gets you ready for your ultimate soulmate. It is not particularly sexual but it can be the reson its not is because it doesnt need intimacy to exist..to me Amor is love for loves sake..the house that the asteroid is in shows you the areas you are able to display this type of love to others in your life and connections in your chart show you if the Energy is integrated well, for many of us it isnt and the sign shows you the way you display it.

posted December 23, 2010 05:26 PM            

And yes Asteroids can mean alot of things for alot of different people, but so does love. Look around you, does everyone have the right definition?...by their fruits you will recognize them.

posted December 23, 2010 10:31 PM            

Ok... I know everyones tired of hearing.. BUTTTTTT... lol

With Pisces I have
he has Karma/Destinn conjunct but in diff signs

My Destinn conjuncts his moon
Destinn opps Destinn
Destinn opps Karma
Karma quix Karma
his karma sq my mars
my destinn sq his sun
his karma/destinn opps my neptune
his karma destinn trine my NN

DW Destinn in each others 3rd...
My karma in his second, his in my 3rd

posted December 23, 2010 11:29 PM            

there a lot like that

take for instance the asteroid, Herba
its meaning could be herbs
but its the name for the Greek God of misery and poverty

another asteroid, gunnie could be used for guns
the nickname for the Weapons officer in the navy is called gunnie
the asteroid, gunnie was named after a daughter of a Swedish astronomer

the asteroid, Niger was named after the country in Africa
but it is also the Latin word for black

the asteroid,King could mean king,monarch,ruler
but it was named after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

asteroid, Frostia could mean frosty,cold
but it's actually named after an American astronomer

these asteroids can have double meanings
either one can be used

sometimes they work like personal names

for instance Walkure is an asteroid that was named after the Valkyries, but I used it as Walker which was my unknown maternal grandmother's maidenname , and I have that sucker in opposition to my Moon within 1 degree, actually completes a t-square with my grand cross. I believe a big part of my mom's psychological issues are connected to not knowing her mother who never wanted her

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posted December 25, 2010 11:36 AM            

For instance for me. Karma is conjunct Destinn in my 10th house opposing my Moon/Neptune/King/Reiki/Merlin...

I must say that my life has very much been centered around Spiritual, higher dimensional things.
My mother is a very Spiritual Soul...and she is able to display the higher octave of the Emotions within her range. So I get that from her.
But I can also see where this could be a way to make Karma for myself too.
The love and light I conduct can also be used by the Ego for lower level things as well.
And being with Sean is a constant reminder that while I do resonate at a high frequency, always have... I AM in this Body and so subjected to lower level emotions of a strong intensity as well that I must transmute. This transmutation of lower level Energy to higher level Energy takes place within us every time we feel fear, anger or guilt...and it is the basis of the principles of Inner Alchemy and a Theurgist accomplishes his work because of this ability or he never makes it past the stages of the initiate.
Its like this Inner purging.....occurs when I chose not to act on them. Ive become extremely emotional lately as a result I feel. Everything touches me like it never has before. If he even says he loves me I tear up.
Its like with each transmutation I get closer to my core ENergy the Love that I AM

But I can clearly see where I could just go opposite with this. And our relationship would reflect that. I cannot wait until this flame spreads to others... As there appears to be many lights now where there was once darkness.

So I can see how my Karma has to do with the purging of emotions...and look at it conjunct Destinn in the 10 house opposing the Moon in the 4th..conjunct Neptune

I was destinned to learn about myself, my REAL self through the exploration of my emotions and my past knowledgeable of me as a multidimensional Energy.
And all of these lessons really played forth from my connection to my mother and home.
Afterall its not often that a devout Jehovahs Witness becomes an Astrologer...
Balance was definitely the key as it always is to tackling oppositions in life.

And Karma is in Gemini..check out IQ's take on this he made it easy for us with the Sign Energy...as blonderiverkat pointed out..

"Karma in Gemini:
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Destined for balance in the intellectual and communicative plane. Did you talk too much in the past? Was the talk useful or harmful? Did you deceive using fast wit? Did you write enlightening literature or books of facts?
This placement also indicates experiences that help the individual guide social reform.
A hidden law may help many innocents reclaim dues and one with Karma in Gemini may be destined to research this data and be of so much use to thousands. In the past life he may have been cheated because of ignorance."

And with my Moon and Neptune being in Sag...we can see why I am sharing this with you today...it is my Karma..

It makes perfect sense.

Reiki and Merlin and King all show the connection to my Egyptian lifelines which carry the most Karma for me hands down. All the way back to Atlantis...

But I want to try this out on others.

Can you look at the Karma in your charts and see if there placements by house and sign show where you have to work the hardest and by sign how you work at it,
to maintain a higher frequency in your Aura. Otherwise it easily spirals down and then we create Karma for ourselves by acting on them...becoming doers as it were.

(here is a link to Tameens take on Karma in the signs... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009192.html.....they really resonate with me.

posted December 25, 2010 02:10 PM            

I use all the Ptolemaic aspects within 3 degree orb exect sextile which I use a 2 degree orb for. I use 1 degree orb for the quincunx,semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,biquintile,quintile.

I use the same orb for all minor planets.

I also usethe asteroid nodes. Now those are different.
I use only the major aspects.
1 use no more than 1 degree orb.

I use declination aspects, and I use no more than 1/2 degree orb.

I'd allow a slightly larger orb with the dwarf planet/dwarf planet candidate objects
Pluto,Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Ceres,Varuna,Quaoar,and Ixion

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posted December 25, 2010 05:07 PM            

Aspect Patterns involving Karma

Kite:
Karma-Geometria in Libra in 1st, Pallas-Israel-Astrowizard-Amycus-Saturn in Gemini in 9th, Vesta-Hesperia in Aquarius in 5th, Skepticus-Kalliope-Orpheus-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd

Grand Trine:
Karma-Geometria in Libra in 1st, Pallas-Israel-Astrowizard-Amycus-Saturn in Gemini in 9th, Vesta-Hesperia in Aquarius in 5th

Mystic Rectangle
Karma-Geometria in Libra in 1st, Pallas-Israel-Astrowizard-Amycus-Saturn in Gemini in 9th, Skepticus-Orpheus-Kalliope-Neptune in 3rd, Frigga in Aries in 7th

T-Square
Karma-Geometria in Libra in 1st, Veritas in Cancer in 10th, Nemesis in Capricorn in 4th

Yod:
Karma-Geometria in Libra in 1st, Moon-White-Hermes-Lancelot in Pisces in 6th, Typhon in Taurus in 8th

Mystic Triangle:
Karma-Geometria in Libra in 1st, Vesta-Hesperia in Aquarius in 5th, Typhon in Taurus in 8th

Karma-Geometria in Libra in 1st, Pallas-Israel-Astrowizard-Amycus in Gemini in 9th, Moon-White-Lancelot-Hermes in Pisces in 6th

Philip Sedgwick's keywords for Varuna,Amycus,Quaoar,Typhon

Varuna: Vedic deity of vast power, particularly the waters. Orbital Period: 284.65 yr.

Positive - sovereign, competent, regulating without force, mastery of all tasks accepted

Negative - incompetent and blaming, laments losses, holds resentment

Amycus - The longer period of this centaur seeks longevity and notoriety. Orbital Period: 126.38 yr.

Positive - intuitive, questioning, insightful, progressive, determined, reliable

Negative - doubtful, skeptical, withdrawn, often late, unreliable, lacking resolve, insecure

Quaoar: Native American deity of creation. The first object in space to bear a Native American name (not counting Hopi and Navajo, which refer to tribes). Orbital Period: 283.84 yr.

Positive - creative, inspiring, possibility oriented, uplifts sagging emotion, strong sense of self

Negative - doom saying, prophet of Armageddon, controls others with fear

Typhon - grisly monster with an abundance of heads and serpents, figuration of volcanic forces, hot winds (Santa Ana, Chinooks). Orbital Period: 234.88 yr.

Positive - balance of parts and wholes, sense of details and big picture, ability to reduce overwhelming tasks into manageable steps

Negative - fatigued by details, overwhelmed by daunting tasks, failure consciousness, can’t see the forest for the trees, hidden weapons or threatening with unseen weapons
http://philipsedgwick.com/

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posted December 25, 2010 08:22 PM            

Orbs are not set in stone. Astrologers' use of orbs vary. It's the main thing that astrologers debate about.

I use a maximum of 3 degree orb.

If you can relate to Jupiter trine Karma within 3 degrees,then so be it. Use a 3 degree orb.

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