posted December 23, 2010 10:55 AM            

but the look on my face is pretty funny when I'm recieving something...

so when someone asks me what's wrong...I never say, I'm in comunion with the holy spirt, lest word get around I've flown teh coocoos nest.

posted December 23, 2010 11:48 AM            

When you relate to a group, and bond with the group, there is a sort of micro spirit.....that is part of the greater macro spirit.

In your mind, you connect to the spirit first on the level of the collective concious...for example, when you were a child, you may have fantasized you were a princess, or a gorrila fighter...who am I to guess your fantasy, what ever it was, it was a product of the collective society and your process of individuation.

I am aware mostly of the sspirit on two levels. Physical and Emotional, and until recently, never rational or logical. However, Once I read carl jungs books, I was able to use his language to differentiate between the part of my dreams that were my own, and the part that were not.....

posted December 23, 2010 11:54 AM            

here is where the power of the spirit is most percieved as mystical...

In the 12th house, it is the collection unconcious mostly that baffles us...

this is where great things happen that seem to violate social norms but end up being successful...for example...eminem...

by all account eminem shoul dnot be popular, but some how he has aligned him self with the spirit of teh collective unconcious, and you will notice that mostly, these things are propagated most by those who know themselves teh least...or the deepest people....

I'm not saying eminem is deeper than anyone here...but I'm using it as an example where an individual rises up against cultural norms...these are the pragmatic manifestations of the soul's interaction with teh spirit in a miraculous form....

the occult and some astrology is mostly untapped collective material and tehrefore owuld mostly belong to the collective unconcious, however it makes its way to the surface sometimes in bubbles when books like harry potter are written about magic and widely accepted as popular fiction...

Little do people know that some forms of magic are actually real...obviously no one is going to blow up a building with a giant fireball, but some people can walk into a room and neutralize an enemy without getting bad karma.....

posted December 23, 2010 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by raspberri:
So basically, the spirit is a mental disorder? haha, jk

No, I see what you mean.

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posted December 23, 2010 12:23 PM            

The traits of the the south node needs to be expressed upon a foundation of the north node...

for me it's the opposite of you....I have scorpio in the sixth house...I am really good at finding out exactly what your thinking, even if it means abusing you.....Until i recognized emotional abuse as a reality, I did this quite frequently never realizing i was doing something wrong...until i suffered greatly for it....emotional abuse that lead to physical abuse on me...etc....one must recognize all three abuses intellectual, as lying, emotional, self explanatory, and physical, self explanatory...

Once you do this you will be able to use the characteristics of the 12th house in matters of the 6th house, or towards it....

so for you, service to health is important, and I think you've been doing that....but also your service to others.....i need to see teh chart ofcourse, if you want to post it agian for me, ill do better....

but thi snotion of placing the south node attributes within a foundation of the 12th house is what alchemists refer to as bringing the gold out of the shadow in the light...

IT's where the paradox makes sense, and mysticism is experienced....

Essentialy for me...I have to use my scorpio traits...which is are super strong...don't forget i can tell what someone is thinking by body language naturally, I can tell when someone isn't breathing....and needs too...and doens't even know it...I can tell when someone is jealous, I can tell when someone is happy, I know what I need to say to infuriate them and cause them to harm another....

tehse things come as naturaly to me as farting...

posted December 23, 2010 12:32 PM            

My pain was caused by someone who has his Venus and Mars in Virgo conjunct my Karma, SN, and 12th house cusp.

posted December 23, 2010 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by raspberri:
The transit was Saturn in Virgo in my 12th house conjunct my Karma.

My pain was caused by someone who has his Venus and Mars in Virgo conjunct my Karma, SN, and 12th house cusp.

The Composite chart ruler, the Moon is at 16 Pisces exactly on my NN.

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Transit: Saturn in virgo can be translated as limitation in order, as in not recognizing your emotions, which makes sense because the moon, composite ruler is on the 12th node opposite.... OR the grim reaper, not to scare you at all I just don't want to sensor my imagination, in the land of the virgin, archtyply speaking.

Because we often face the facts, that if we are not irrational and stay true to our hearts in conjunction with our minds, not in isolation, we will be forced to die and be reborn to adjust...or else suffer the fates of self undueing by repression.

It is not one or the other, but recognizing the two are inseperable.

His planets of venus and mars triggered your old ways of being karmakly, because venus and mars exemplify some of the most central traits of the human psyche, and how virgo energy can be there.

A virgo person will act like a person who has mars and venus there in other words.....

That's seeing beauty in organization...I'm guessing its very easy for you to be logical about a relationship, but harder about using the heart...in a situation like that.

With pisces there I would say don't serve in an orderly logical fashion....keep serving others in a non-intense emotionaly disperced fair manner....pisces has alot to do with the circle of life, cultures, etc...it's no coincidence that pi- a number derived from our studies of teh circle is the prefix to pisces....it's where the two circles overlap.

That's serving another by finding the common ground of self service....

rather than rationaly serving...I'm just going by the sign energies..that's all not trying to predict...I could be totaly wrong...

but that entire aspect configuration is a crazy stage for a crazy drama...I'd say you met a person at a time in your life when your limitations involved the virgo energy of organization, and that this person wanted to draw these qualities out in you, but wasn't sensitive at all to the effect on your emotions. Also your contribution to this was a sort of self undueing as exemplified in the house.......you also do view it that way, based on your tone...I sense alot of self blame, but not anymore, something that's no longer present...but that you went through. I only say that cause I feel I've gone through a similar thing...but I could be wrong again.

posted December 24, 2010 09:18 AM            

I'm in one now. His moon and mars on his MC falls in my 12th house while my Venus and Chiron falls in his 12th house.

posted December 24, 2010 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
road, you're my favorite new person on the board.
glad you're here.

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