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Topic: Born with every planet Rx?
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Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Planet Shining Registered: May 2009
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posted December 23, 2010 09:12 PM
GEOCOSMIC,["Even without the time of birth the chart suggests this person had a very difficult childhood, the kind that is extremely difficult to talk about."] --Asides from Rx's, which other major factors would you attribute the difficult childhood to?? ["There is mafia-like energy in this person's life."] --That's very interesting,...but what shows that?? ["There's usually a pattern with people who have Pluto opposing Venus, they can have what's known as the "***** /nun syndrome"."] --Right, I agree. My mom's got Pluto opp. Venus natally. Nun it is! My dad's the only person she's ever dated or been with. She was raped before as a child, but obviously that doesnt count. I've got Pluto cj Venus, & nun it is too! lol.
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 09:15 PM
Rasp,retro doesn't mean negative! I think her mars is the key factor... When i see sun oppo sat,i always feel bad. That kind of person can be enemy to oneself. Why do u see her venus as strenght? MoonOfJupiter,i know two girls with retro venus(both afflicted by squaring mars) and they appear as late bloomers love-wise. But they are not. Very fine feminine energy,actually,when u look deeeeeeep when they let u,that is  ------------------ Leo/Libra/Capricorn IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 09:17 PM
Damn,lonake,u r good thanks... In addition to that,my eyes are green and radiant(mostly).------------------ Leo/Libra/Capricorn IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 09:23 PM
Sorry,rasp,smartphone run of battery,i couldn't do it sooner. Very inconsiderate of me,i apologize again!IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 09:23 PM
Not negative but the energy isn't directed outwards. For example I didn't lose my virginity untill my Venus went direct, well actually it went direct when I was 5 but I didn't lose it until It went past the Rx degree. BTW, it was kinda lonely, but I felt like I was so special when I was younger.  So she probably doesn't get any action. I'm not kidding. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 09:24 PM
Okay but just take off those names for me.  Ty! IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 25 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 10:11 PM
My roommate has retrograde Mars in Aries. He gets plenty of action.IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1083 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2010 10:12 PM
Agent_009,Answer 1. Notice Pluto, Saturn and Mars in the opposite sign of her Sun which is smack in the middle of Taurus. Notice Pluto opposite Venus by only 2 degrees. When the Solar Arcs start, they will stress her Sun by opposition, quindecile and Sesquiquadrate early on. And with those energies coming from Scorpio, there will be dark, hidden, most likely sexual energies attacking, controlling and enflaming her Sun and Venus. By age 2 or 3, SA Pluto (carrying extra Scorpionic energy) will oppose her Venus. I don't even want to think about how this will affect her or a possible relative at that age, but it happens every day. By age 2, Solar Arc Saturn (carrying Scorpionic energies) will oppose her Sun. This is also ultra-difficult energy to handle. At age 6 or 7, Solar Mars (carrying Scorpionic energies) will Arc to her Sun by quindecile. This is intensified sexual energy, attack energy, anger, possible surgery. Not to mention when Pluto arcs to Saturn; when Saturn arcs to Mars in Scorpio, I don't want to be anywhere around. Those 3 planets in Scorpio are the most difficult energies to have there. Pluto and Mars are at home there, but when they are stressing other planets from Scorpio, there's a deeper, darker and sexual element to the energy being expressed or communicated. Her Venus also has to arc through those midpoints and planets by opposition and a lot of those events will probably coincide. I hope Raspberri can somehow gently find a way to have this woman confide if any of this is true. Answer 2. Scorpio can express a deep manipulative control. When you add Saturn and Mars into the soup you can get a feeling of brutality, metals (like iron, guns, knives, chains.) Even though they aren't in a conjunction, don't forget that the midpoint of Mars/Saturn is there inbetween them also in Scorpio; The midpoing of Mars/Pluto is there in Scorpio. It's just that Scorpio can be the highest of heavens or the lowest of hells and much of the time the hell part shows up and at some point in adulthood the individual moves through all that energy and has several opportunities or several experiences of being the Phoenix rising from the ashes. Answer 3. Actually, the sexual assault your mother experienced as a child counts very much within her life development profile and her behavior as an adult. The Venus-Pluto conjunction symbolism may have played a big role in energies of the sexual assault. Depending on how this event was handled by those around her and the type of support she received after the assault may have deeply affected how she decided to live her life from that point on and how to express her natural sexual energies. Was she supported or blamed after the assault? Was she counseled? Was she ignored? Did she grow up in a household where sexual subjects were allowed to be discussed? There's a ton of information to be considered. The Venus-Pluto energy (including yours and your mother's) can express the highest love (sometimes overly loving) or the most base expressions of Venusian sexuality. Thus the term "Wh0re/Nun Syndrome". Last. Even though we don't know where her Moon is, I suspect that her relationship with her mother is wounded by way of Chiron conjunct Nodal Axis. The Nodal Axis can suggest maternal energies and later on in life can suggest relationships and meetings. With all of the events I suspect may have occurred in her childhood, it would not surprise me if the relationships in her life are not the healthiest or are not "ideal" in some respect. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 10:12 PM
Maybe it went direct. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 10:50 PM
Whoa. I feel bad for her now. I really don't know her though. I don't even know her name. IP: Logged |
Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Planet Shining Registered: May 2009
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posted December 23, 2010 10:53 PM
GEOCOSMIC,Thank you for taking the time to clearly explain. Initially I wasnt sure if you entirely gleaned those points from the natal chart alone, or factored in transits/progressions. In anycase it's very helpful & educational to me. Answer 3. Your right, it definitely counted. I should've worded it differently. What I meant was [edit] IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 10:55 PM
It's interesting but Venus Pluto is scary to me. Never liked it in synastry. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1083 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2010 11:29 PM
Raspberri,Just out of curiosity, what made you investigate her birthday (thereby discovering all the RX planets)? Do you work with her or something? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 11:31 PM
Geocosmic,u said so much with so little. Wow. I have transiting pluto opp venus... Please,could u tell me in couple of sentences,what to expect? Raspberri,if it isn't too much of indisctretion,how did u come to suspect that she is a possible threat? I have seen pluto-venus in synastry,it ended tragically.(shattered ego,emotions,depression)------------------ Leo/Libra/Capricorn IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 11:32 PM
No, she was tryng to take my love away from me. She is older than him and lives far from us. He told me about her so I looked up her birthchart to see if I should be worried. Her Venus is exactly opposing his Pluto as well. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 2690 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2010 11:34 PM
I dunno, I don't see the big deal about Venus/Pluto. I have it natally. People go ooh and ahh over it in synastry, but I don't see cause for alarm. What's wrong with being real? That's what it's about.IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 11:36 PM
With Venus/Pluto in synastry, I had the square I was Venus and he was crazy possessive like I would have to watch my back around him because he was the type that would do something unannounced. Also have my Pluto conjunct someone's Venus exact and he thinks I'm the most beautiful woman in the world. But I just see him as a friend. My friend has Venus in Cancer and she came out as a lesbian when Pluto was opposing it. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 11:44 PM
raspberri,that makes since,pluto confronting your sexual indentity and dragging it out. But,anything besides that? What do u guys think?------------------ Leo/Libra/Capricorn IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 11:47 PM
Sorry I'm not able to contact her Geo. IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 11:51 PM
Maybe money problems? Completely changing the way you look? Changing your attitude about love completely? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 23, 2010 11:59 PM
Well,i have been told that i have to change my attitude,no more boys,boys,boys...concentrated in one week: D The fact is that i appear unsirius to others regards love. Because i can't choose one maybe my doom's day has come and one and only one boy is to be ??? Ain't fair!!!!!!! Tell me,is pluto over ur moon? And how do u feel saturn on asc?------------------ Leo/Libra/Capricorn IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 24, 2010 12:02 AM
I haven't felt Pluto on my Moon/Neptune yet.But Saturn on my ASC feels divine. I feel like the Libra rising I'm supposed to feel like. I am finally coming into my own when it comes to how I look. I feel so comfortable with myself, my style, my appearance.  Negatively, I'm not sure if I want to put myself into a 9-5 job again (just lost my job when saturn was exact on my ASC, but was 100 percent okay with it) I think my heart is telling me to pursue something else. Oh and I stsrted a new relationship with a Capricorn rising when Saturn was exact. Now I'm falling in love.  IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Praha Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 24, 2010 12:09 AM
Yes... Funny thing how people forget saturn's exaltation,somehow saturn is mainly the bad,ugly guy. I have always thought that saturn in libra exaltation is the most intuitive(hits to genius spot) placement. Then u will feel pluto when it hits retro... Bumpy,glorious ride. As i always say it-plutonic forever,after that transit. Although u may not feel that much difference,having sun oppo pluto natally.------------------ Leo/Libra/Capricorn IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 24, 2010 12:12 AM
I have Sun trine Pluto natally. IP: Logged |
Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Planet Shining Registered: May 2009
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posted December 24, 2010 12:14 AM
VenusDi,T.Pluto opp Venus. You'll probably find a surge in attracting guys, especially stalker crazies. Or just guys who compulsively lust after you. Perhaps you might hardcore lust over someone. I'm just speaking from having Pluto cj. Venus natally...I really do attract lots of crazies. I should re-word it, the guys perhaps arent crazies normally, but become that way with me. T-Pluto in 4th, or conjunct Moon. It's not yet conjunct my moon, but it's in my 4H. Deeeeeep issues with my family especially mom, brought to the forefront. It feels like exploding land mines. Blow up the old road, for getting ready to "hopefully," pave a new one? T-Saturn on ASC. I've just experienced that recently (Libra Asc). It's quite nice actually. Opportunities where I normally had to search hard for, just dropped in my lap. IP: Logged |