posted December 31, 2010 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Glaucus,i am telling u,there is no offence to u from my part.

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Hey..I wasn't offended.

I was just disagreeing with your statement and making a rebuttal to it. I also have an intense,passionate way of communicating reflected by my Mercury conjunct Venus in Scorpio in 3rd house. My Mercury is conjunct the Heliocentric South Mars Node. My Mercury is also square the Mars/Node midpoint. My Mercury is also sextile Geocentric South Pluto Node and in a golden section aspect to Pluto. My Mercury is conjunct Beta Libra Star, Zuben Elschamali which is said to have a Mercury-Mars-Jupiter influence.

I also have Mercury biquintile Eris which indicates my communication involve the tendency to give rebuttals,alternative viewpoints that I disagree with which may appear to be discordant and controversial to those that that don't agree with me. It can also indicate thoughts,communications focusing on diversity and equality.

My Sun is oppose/conjunct Eris Nodes in Taurus/Scorpio. That indicates my self expression involves making rebuttals,alternative viewpoints that can appear controversial and discordant to those that don't agree with. It can be an ego,self expression that focuses on diversity and equality.

Of course, disagreeing and giving rebuttals,alternative viewpoints is also a Uranian thing.
I do have my own strong Uranian energy as I have already went over.

Perhaps I was expressing my Uranian energy in response to a statement about Uranians.
The irony.

I was definitely not born to go with the status quo in any type of way. That even goes for the astrological status quo. Therefore, I can even have disagreements and give rebuttals in the field of Astrology.

A person doesn't have to be offended to disagree with and make rebuttals,alternative viewpoints.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted December 31, 2010 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by LauraSmith:
Thats because you have more gemini influence than any other in your chart.

At least in the eyes of Vedic Astrology which is my prefered method for individual chart reading. You were born with Sun, Jupiter, Mercury and chiron all in gemini.

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Good point.
I was going to bring that up, but I changed my mind.

It does make a person wonder if Sidereal Zodiac could be more accurate than Tropical Zodiac.

Ptolemy didn't seem to care about the Southern Hemisphere when he adopted the tropical zodiac based on the Northern Hemisphere seasons.

His theories on the tropical zodiac signs were based on season qualities.

The Sidereal Zodiac and Tropical Zodiac used to be aligned at one point, and they drifted apart. The Sidereal Zodiac existed first.

I also want to point out that the Sidereal Zodiac is not the Constellation zodiac. After all the constellation zodiac consists of 13 unequal constellations that includes Ophiuchus which is located between Scorpius and Sagittarius, a small Scorpion constellation, and a large Virgo constellation. My Imum Coeli is in Ophiuchus.

Even though my Sun in tropical Scorpio is in Libra in Sidereal Zodiac, it's not in the Libra constellation. It's in the Virgo constellation. I was born on the 2nd to the last day of Sun in Virgo constellation before entering Sun in Libra constellation.
Therefore, I have my doubts about the Sidereal Zodiac too.

I use tropical zodiac for only Northern Hemisphere born people.

There is an Australian Astrologer who doesn't believe in the zodiac signs. He hasn't used them in over 10 years. Of course, I could see why he would be skeptical of tropical zodiac signs. He was born in the Southern Hemisphere where the Northern Hemisphere seasons doesn't.
He strongly focuses on conjunctions to stars in the chart.

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posted December 31, 2010 03:45 PM            

as you already pointed out, you have 3 planets in 3rd house. That's a strong emphasis on communications. 3rd house is associated with Gemini.

Your Mercury opposes Uranus with 1'26 orb and they contraparallel with 22 minutes of arc. That's a Mercury-Uranus occultation.
It indicates that your thinking,communications is at odds with independence,unconventional stuff. It can an independent,unconventional mind that can be innovative. a real free thinker that questions the status quo. Uranus is considered higher octave of Mercury which is the planet associated with mental energy,nervous system. Therefore, Mercury oppose/contraparallel Uranus can indicate a high degree of nervous energy to the point that you can be high strung. It can be very communicative. Gemini is a mutable air sign associated with being adaptable,changeable,flexible when it comes to communications,intellectualism,thinking,and ideas. Mercury-Uranus is similar in that way in that it can be very changeable in the way it thinks. After all Uranus is the planet associated with change and the unpredictable.

The average daily motion of Mercury is 59 minutes,14 seconds.
Your Mercury's daily motion is 1 degree, 57 minutes. That is almost twice the average.
Therefore, your Mercury is very fast. It could indicate very quick mental reactions and very fast overall mental processing. Therefore, there can be a lot of restlessness as well as strong emphasis on communications because of all that mental energy. That could help you relate to Gemini, the sign ruled by Mercury.

I also checked your midpoints to see if you have a significant Sun-Mercury midpoint connection.

Your Sun is conjunct the Mercury/Midheaven midpoint with 25 minutes of arc.
That indicates that your ego,self expression,vitality combines with the integration of mental processing,thinking, communications and the aim in life. It's a very strong Sun-Mercury midpoint connection. It has similarities with Sun conjunct Mercury,Sun in Gemini,Mercury-Midheaven,Midheaven in Gemini

There is more

Your Midheaven is conjunct the Moon/Mercury midpoint with 49 minutes of arc. That indicates that your aim in life combines with the integration of the emotional nature,feelings,instincts and mental processing,thinking,communications. It has similarities with Moon-Mercury,Moon in Gemini,Mercury-Midheaven,Midheaven in Gemini

Your Ascendant is oppose Mercury/Node midpoint with 44 minutes of arc.
This indicates that your persona,relating with others,environment combines with the integration of mental processes,thinking,and communications and connections,associations.
It has similarities with Mercury-Ascendant,Ascendant in Gemini, Mercury-Node,and Node in Gemini.

Midpoints are used mainly by Cosmobiologists and Uranian Astrologers. Cosmobiologists don't use house systems and they put little emphasis on zodiac signs.

Robert Hand said that direct midpoints (conjunction,opposition) can be just as significant as direct aspects. They can indicate major theme in the life.

In your case, the major themes include Sun conjunct Mercury/Midheaven midpoint,Midheaven conjunct Moon/Mercury midpoint,and Ascendant oppose Mercury/Node midpoint.

I also checked your geocentric planetary nodes. Theodor Landscheidt pioneered their use in Astrology. Evolutionary Astrologer Jeffrey Wolf Green uses geocentric planetary nodes. Zipporah Dobyns also used them, and she included geocentric planetary nodes in her book, The Node Book.

Your Geocentric Mercury Node is in 2'14 Cancer, and your Mercury conjuncts that with 49 minutes of arc. Therefore, your Mercury conjuncts its Geocentric North Node. That is what is called "Maximum Effectiveness"
That's a strong Mercurial influence.

With all that in your astrological nativity, there is no wonder that you strongly relate to Gemini.

It's very common for people to identify with zodiac sign placements that they have or don't have, and there are alternative astrological factors that can explain it.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted December 31, 2010 04:24 PM            

Sun conjunct Mercury/Midheaven
+ highly aware. entertaining. agile or mobile. youthful. nimble. has business acumen. people-oriented. has mercantile objectives.
- restless. unsettled. nervous.

Midheaven conjunct Moon/Mercury
+ mobile in disposition. able to reason. highly perceptive. conscious of daily routines. discerning. interested in the latest news. busy. has business acumen. gifted with language. youthful.
- impressionable. emotionally biased in thinking. subjective. fluctuates. superficial. prone to gossip.

Ascendant oppose Mercury/Node
+ enjoys contact with others. entertaining. highly aware. agile or mobile. youthful. nimble. busy. has business acumen. eloquent. courteous. people-oriented. gifted with language.
- unsettled. restless. superficial. grumpy.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted December 31, 2010 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Glaucus,i am also of strong uranus energy. And my uranus throws it's influence towards my personal planets. I am 3rd H uranus,so i will make this personal. When someone isn't as quick as me to grasp ideas,simultaneously work on big picture and on details,has small-town perceptions,can't think outside box,is shallow,inconsiderate person,hates progression,and i am person who can tell a lot about someone by just hearing them speak(and good talk isn't exclusive and only matter of intelligence,elequence,rich mom and pop,etc) yes,i get bored! And angry,if they persist.. There is no tolerance with uranus=very prominent trait. No! Do u think one who reform and improves is tolerant person? Would tolerant person destroy and later on build new progress? Tolerance isn't world's or nature's MO...

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It depends

it depends on the degree of tolerance
how much they can tolerate
it depends on the things that are being tolerated

a Uranian person can be tolerant of diversity and differences in others as long as the don't infringe on the rights of others

It could be that they lack tolerance of intolerance of diversity and differences

of course, all that can be debated

How do we know if diversity and differences in others infringe on the rights of others?

How do we know there are intolerance of diversity and differences?

Is it because of the majority of views?

It is because of the minority of views?

Majority of views don't necessarily equate to what's right and what's acceptable.
Minority of views don't necessarily equate to what's wrong and unacceptable.
Of course, it can be argued vice versa as well.

It can all be relative based on various perceptions.

I don't have lack of intolerance for people that can't think outside the box,and can't work on the big picture. They have their own type of minds that I feel should be accepted and tolerated.

That's the whole point of the Neurodiversity Movement. The concept of neurodiversity should include the accepting and tolerating of both neurotypicals (people with so-called normal neurological processing) and neurodivergents (people with so-called abnormal neurological processing). It's about the accepting and tolerating of all kinds of minds.

How can I expect to be a neurodiversity advocate/activist if I accept and tolerate only certain types of thinking and not all types of thinking?

It's like a black civil rights activist who advocates for racial equality ,but he doesn't doesn't accept and tolerate white people.

I am not great with details. One of my problems is paying attention to detail, and that was a problem for me when I was in the Navy which is highly focused on order,detail,and organization which are weaknesses of mine.

I can say that I can be slow when it comes to grasping ideas. Not because I am slow in my thinking. If the ideas are word-based, I can easily have confusion and it will take time for me to think them over before I can grasp them. I need pictures of those ideas in my mind. I am mainly a visual/picture thinker instead of verbal/word thinker.

I feel that I have tolerance for people as fellow human beings , but I have a certain tolerance level when it comes to what a person says or act.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted December 31, 2010 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:
There is an Australian Astrologer who doesn't believe in the zodiac signs. He hasn't used them in over 10 years. Of course, I could see why he would be skeptical of tropical zodiac signs. He was born in the Southern Hemisphere where the Northern Hemisphere seasons doesn't.
He strongly focuses on conjunctions to stars in the chart.

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Glaucus, who is the Aussie astrologer?

posted January 01, 2011 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Moons Of Jupiter:
Glaucus, who is the Aussie astrologer?

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Jamie Partridge aka Funkstar http://darkstarastrology.com/about-astrologers-marina-caruso-jamie-partridge/

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posted January 01, 2011 05:24 AM            

So it's interesting in your case as well.

posted January 01, 2011 06:07 AM            

..Something about the way Gemini is described here does not click with how they "really" are..I know; my Sister is filled with Gemini and my s.o attracts them in hordes..

posted January 01, 2011 03:06 PM            

well..you don't have a strong Gemini influence (well...not in Tropical), but you do have a strong Mercurial influence with those 3 direct Mercury midpoint positions that involve personal planets/points

Your Mercury is exceptionally fast!

Mine is fast too at 1 degree, 30 minutes

but yours is much faster with yours being 1 degree, 57 minutes

the average being 59 minutes, 14 seconds

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No..I am not a Virgo.