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Ami Anne
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posted January 06, 2011 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I realize that I have a hard time separating my Sun(ego) from my Moon(emotions)
It feels exactly the way you think a "conjunction" would.
They feel "too close".
Again, astrology will answer your deepest questions given enough time and skill .
I have Moon conjunct Mars, too. Perhaps, this is where this is coming from.

The conjunctions are wide but I can feel them, I am quite certain.

The Gem Sun / Cancer moon conjunction is 9- 10 degrees.They are both in the 8th house
The Cancer Moon Cancer/Mars is 7 degrees.
The Cancer moon is in the 8th house.Cancer Mars is in the 9th .

Thank you for any help!

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posted January 06, 2011 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
10 degrees is about the limit a lot of pro astrologers use for orb of influence of Sun/Moon.
Others go so far as to say that if you feel it, then it's there.

Sun/Moon conj can be incredibly subjective, do you think this is true for you?

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posted January 06, 2011 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The best way to describe it is that I can't fit myself in to compartments, enough.
IOW, I would like my emotions to be in Compartment A and my thinking process to be in Compartment B.
I would like to be able to think independently of my emotions feeling like they will bubble over and OUT.
I fear my emotions just coming out like water running out of a damn which has broken.

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posted January 06, 2011 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That may be the Gemini wishing to be free from the Scorpio/h8/pluto influence to breathe for a bit, they're naturally quincunx, so there are issues in adjusting the energies, even if you don't have them in quincunx aspect, since they're both major players in your chart.

"I fear my emotions just coming out like water running out of a damn which has broken."
This bit doesn't jive with what I know of the Sun/Moon conj from talking with others..they actually like that there is a strong focus and determination in relation to the sign(s) involved, even in those who had the conjunction out-of-sign, there was still a single resolve, always knowing what they wanted and going after it, although there is a lot of subjectivity there, strong ties to the home (family/city/country/the motherland/not keen to move too far away). Not to say that you don't have the conjunction, for technical purposes it's likely to be that you do.

Hopefully other people who have it will respond, I can only speak of those I've talked with about their experiences.

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posted January 06, 2011 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Lonake
I will think about what you said.
I can't wrap my mind around "what" I am trying to say.
I think I will as the thread goes on.You know when a concept is JUST out of reach.
This one is in that category lol

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posted January 06, 2011 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to answer the question myself and drive other posters from away
I am just trying to think our loud about what I am trying to say.
Problems always have astrological roots.Once, you can grasp it astrologically,you are on your way to fixing it.

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posted January 06, 2011 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sasportas says that environment triggers your chart's aspects.
That is one reason,among others,that two children from the same home can see things entirely differently.
I think ,perhaps, Mars conjunct Moon is my problem ,here.
I will describe exactly what my dilemma feels like.

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posted January 06, 2011 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel,internally, that my emotions don't stay where I want them to,inside me.
I do NOT blurt them out or let them run wild,usually.
However,I feel like I cannot separate the parts of myself from each other.
They all get blurry and want to run over each other.
I will try to explain,later lol
In the meantime, any comments are welcome

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posted January 06, 2011 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have
Sun/Moon/Mercury conjunct in Leo.

Its all bunched together by 1 orb, moon and mercury or conjunct by minutes.

What ever hits one hits all three.. I cant tell whats what..

But in Synastry wise, when some one hits me they hit me hard.. Hitting all 3 planets..
and also my Sun/moon midpoint.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 06, 2011 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness
NOT in synastry but inside you,how does it feel?

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posted January 06, 2011 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lioness
NOT in synastry but inside you,how does it feel?


IDK... Its all bunched together, I cant say whats what.. I dont know for sure, whats my Sun, whats my moon, whats my mercury.

I guess their in sync with each other

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posted January 06, 2011 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am thinking MY issue is environmental. I did not ,always,have it i.e it may not be in my natal chart.
However,it may be

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posted January 06, 2011 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a child up until 14, I had a space inside myself which was "me"
I escaped in to books. Books showed me people outside my mother,sane people.
Books kept me sane until I was 14 when I became a "Stockholm Syndrome" person if you want to say that cuz I suspended my reality for my mother's/fathers.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 06, 2011 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrologically,it feels like my mother's Neptune was on my Pluto,which it was,exact.
Her Sun was on my Chiron,exact.
Her ego came to me to be buttressed up and she did.
Both of my parent Pluto's was on my Mars,exact.
Their Pluto submerged my Mars cuz Pluto will win out over Mars.They were a tag team and still are.
One will protect the other at all costs. The children would be thrown away.

These things I knew but there is another part that I am talking about,now.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 06, 2011 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
However,those things are not what I am really trying to say.
I will come back,later,cuz I can't seem to formulate my words lol

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posted January 06, 2011 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Gemini and I have sun opposition moon. I have my compartment A and B and am quite comfortable with ti. - That could be Gemini energy not being content in it's placement!

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posted January 06, 2011 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It also means well-incorporated masculine and feminine principles. And u know what happens when they step forth equally a battle! Energy is passed down to u by parents,their harmonious relationship,at the time u were concieved.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 06, 2011 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think Sun oppose Moon WOULD give a compartmentalization between Sun and moon.
I am trying to achieve that,I think.
I think the conjunction squishes them together even though mine has a wide orb.
I think the combust would be really hard (less than 5 degree orb between sun and mercury)
That would be mercury ,not moon ,but a similar principle

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posted January 06, 2011 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think the Sun conjunct Moon is tricky when they don't share the same sign and there is a wide orb.

I am in agremen


the basic thing about the Sun conjunct Moon is

the ego,self expression,vitality,conscious,masculine MERGES with emotional nature,feelings, nurturing,unconscious,and feminine

I have Sun trine Moon with 2'10 orb (1'22 in Right Ascension) myself.


Sun conjunct Moon of 10 degree orb would be a 36 harmonic aspect

36 X 10 = 360


It could feel like a conjunction, but it could involve something extra

LATENT or Subconscious level of experience 13th to 36th or 37th Harmonic Aspect Series. The Latent Aspects can have an overt effect on the lives of people in whose horoscope they appear when they are exact or almost exact, and thus extremely strong, but those concerned usually need to undertake depth analysis or use esoteric consciousness expansion techniques to unfold any conscious awareness of them.

It is relevant to note here that there are "no more gaps" beyond the 29th Harmonic. This means that it is possible to define any Angular Separation between any pair of planets in a horoscope chart in terms of one of the aspects within the first 29 Harmonic Aspect Series. I have contemplated using only the first 29 or 30 aspect series, but I had built up a useful store of information about the first 36 series by the time I became aware of the precise point at which there were no more gaps.
http://www.accessnewage.com/articles/astro/ha_intro.htm


You can tell if 2 planets are in actual harmonic aspect by seeing if they are conjunct in that actual harmonic chart.


I think higher harmonics could be felt if they are near exact. That's one of the reasons that some people might relate to wide orbed aspects including ones so far out of orb that you wouldn't think , they are in aspect. They could be in an exact minor aspect.


Take for instance, a conjunction of exactly 15 degrees.

It may be felt , because it's an exact quindecile which is 24th harmonic aspect

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No..I am not a Virgo.

Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

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posted January 06, 2011 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne,

where is your mercury? you talk a lot about expressing your emotions or being able to articulate them, but you have not mentioned your mercury. I think your issue is more related to moon/mercury relationship than to moon/sun

I have the following placements

Mercury 24 gemini (house 2)
moon 26 gemini (house 2)
Mars 2 cancer (house 2)
Sun 3 cancer (house 2 almost house 3)
Venus 6 cancer (house 3)

I dont identify with the feelings you are trying to describe.

I have read that the sense of unity that is caused by the conjunction is not always felt when the signs of the moon and sun are diferents. I find myself subjective, but i dont know how much sujective compared the other humans. In my opinion, people are subjective, because that "objectivity" thing is just a concept, but not even in science, people believe that Cr@p.

having mercury and moon conjunct in gemini, makes easier for me to express and be aware of my emotions. I have never felt otherwise.

ciao!!!

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posted January 06, 2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 06, 2011 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
Ami Anne,

where is your mercury? you talk a lot about expressing your emotions or being able to articulate them, but you have not mentioned your mercury. I think your issue is more related to moon/mercury relationship than to moon/sun

I have the following placements

Mercury 24 gemini (house 2)
moon 26 gemini (house 2)
Mars 2 cancer (house 2)
Sun 3 cancer (house 2 almost house 3)
Venus 6 cancer (house 3)

I dont identify with the feelings you are trying to describe.

I have read that the sense of unity that is caused by the conjunction is not always felt when the signs of the moon and sun are diferents. I find myself subjective, but i dont know how much sujective compared the other humans. In my opinion, people are subjective, because that "objectivity" thing is just a concept, but not even in science, people believe that Cr@p.

having mercury and moon conjunct in gemini, makes easier for me to express and be aware of my emotions. I have never felt otherwise.

ciao!!!


Nordicsoul,it is sooo off topic,but please,ur cancer venus?? How do u take,handle it,experience? Psysically,what do u deem attractive in girls?

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posted January 06, 2011 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to dissapoint you Ami,

I am a woman... I know that the nordicsoul sounds masculine for some reason, but in my native language soul is femenine, so I did not think about this before.

but if you are interested about what a venus in cancer finds attractive I can tell. i dont know how much of it is the venus in cancer or the combination of all the aspects to venus

just another note, my AC in taurus sextile my venus. notice also that my venus conjunct my sun and mars and sextile jupiter.

I am atracted to

1)grace: i find people with manners (the way they talk, eat, walk) i find atraction for graceful movements

2)must be intelligent (well with my venus in 3rd, you get the picture)no intelligence no attraction

3) I really find appealing a nurturer. yes, i am very cancer in this sense. a protecting and caring person attracts me, but not a needy one. I am the needy one!!!! and then, think the moon square uranus has something against needy people

4) this may be more the venus-mars, but i am very attracted to sport-like people, not the 24/7 body builders (noooooooooo way), but people who do sports for fun and keeps their body moving fast and gracefully.

5) I think this is venus in cancer. I am more attracted to man who are serious in the sense that they are not flirters. man who chase women are such a turn-off. I like to think that I am special and this mean that the man is not looking everywhere not only when he is with me, but also when he is alone, and even when single. I am very attracted to men who are very selective.

I am very attracted to sense of humor. it is difficult to describe what type of humor because everybody has his/her own, but basically, the one from "chandler" character in "friends" could somehow give u a hint (but not sure if my moon in gemini)

one more thing Ami,

once i met a man with his mars/venus conjunct my venus/sun/mars. i thought I was going to be crazy about him and rather i realized i did not. I have never met a man with whom i felt so understood inmediatelly. i told him so much about me and he did the same. secrets about each other...but i did not feel physical attraction at all and i realized that he looks too weak for my taste. my conjunction venus-mars-sun wants somebody of character. funny he has mars-venus conjunct and he search a woman of character, he told me i was such a woman, but I did not feel the other way around.

I tell you that because you may be wondering about men whose mars conjunct your venus, but i read in one of this threads in LL that when a person shares your mars, you are not attracted to them, you tend to be attracted to the opposite (mars in cap), which i was totally true for me. I am going to search the thread and will post in the forum if find it.. it was super interesting.

so, back to the topic...what about your mercury? lol

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posted January 06, 2011 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew you were a woman Nordic soul

We are close in our placements,though
I have Gem Sun 28
Gem Merc 21
Gem Venus 9
Cancer moon 9

I have a strong Mercury. It is in the 8th house with Gem on the cusp.It trines Neptune and sextile Pluto.
My issues are not with Mercury.

My hard planets are really Mars and Pluto.
I find it hard to embrace my primal nature.
That COULD include the moon which rules feelings and the heart.
That is hard to access ,too.
Brrrrrrrrr lol

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posted January 06, 2011 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I realize that I have a hard time separating my Sun(ego) from my Moon(emotions)
It feels exactly the way you think a "conjunction" would.
They feel "too close".
Again, astrology will answer your deepest questions given enough time and skill .
I have Moon conjunct Mars, too. Perhaps, this is where this is coming from.

The conjunctions are wide but I can feel them, I am quite certain.

The Gem Sun / Cancer moon conjunction is 9- 10 degrees.They are both in the 8th house
The Cancer Moon Cancer/Mars is 7 degrees.
The Cancer moon is in the 8th house.Cancer Mars is in the 9th .

Thank you for any help!


Ami, most of my favorite artists, inspirers are people with moon conjunct sun.

I think thats a wonderful aspect, but could lead to alot of confusion.

You must be magnetic...to say the least, people will see a big part of themselves in you.

I also find people with this aspect don't hide things, and have alot of open honesty, and therefore need to protect there privacy.

Alot of these people become famous but don't want fame necessarily and value there privacy....

and actually any planet conjunct the sun will teach karmic lessons about privacy and what one should reveal, as you will conciously have alot on your mind that others may not, as most people probably don't have planets conjunct the sun...

It makes you apparently deep I think too.

Just look at jack whites natal chart.
http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/3AwhkJ29W67k.htm

and watch some interviews he's in on youtube...

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