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Topic: Is this going to go anywhere with Scorpio?
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JohnFKennedy Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Los Angeles, CA, US Registered: Aug 2009
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posted January 10, 2011 02:28 PM
Projection is taking a simple something that can be anything from a loving gaze, a lingering hug or handshake, an emotional note in the voice, and making mountains out of molehills, basically. Scorpios are inherently deep people. It's hard not to infer in all of the little things left unsaid by them so often with what we think they're feeling. Say, for example, one of my best friends that's a Scorpio had a nice, casual chat with me. She seemed a little more distant than normal. After our small talk, she goes in for a hug and hugs me tightly and longer than she normally would, then walks away. That was kind of a deep experience on my part, because she so rarely shows emotions, so something so small as that would be magnified in my mind, especially if I felt something more for her. So my emotions begin creating something which may not even be there, due to the fact I want so badly to not be "emotionally starved" (in my longing opinion) by her, and my mind takes over and irrationality, instead of friendliness, takes place. That's projection, and really does happen so often with Scorpios/the Plutonic type. It's definitely happened to me numerous times on the parts of others. I gotta second what annaf was saying - when a man is interested, no matter how shy he may be, he will make strides to talk to you in a more significant manner than what he's been doing (based on what I've read so far). I would honestly just leave the situation alone, 8 months is an awful long time to be left hanging with this guy. I'd say do your own thing for a while, never be bitter towards him, but don't make any extra super-friendly attempts either. You've done what you could. If he comes around later, that's awesome - but if he doesn't, it's his loss. You sound like a genuine lady in that sense. IP: Logged |
maddi Knowflake Posts: 47 From: New Jerzee Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 10, 2011 03:57 PM
Do they realize this projection power? And could a loving glance mean absolutely nothing? is it possible?IP: Logged |
stillatlarge Newflake Posts: 23 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 10, 2011 06:17 PM
How old are you? I'd say it makes a LOT of difference if they are young, still teenagers. It's definitely different with this generation. He may really like her and be afraid to make a move. You just really can't tell one way or another through a keyboard, scorpio or not.IP: Logged |
Geri Newflake Posts: 12 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jan 2011
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posted January 20, 2011 08:29 AM
Hello Maddi,I am bringing back your topic as I feel I want to tell you some things from my own personal experience. I am a Taurus but in my life I am always surrounded by Scorpio people and in my family too so I feel I kind of understand them to some extent. As it seems you are really into that guy and there's nothing to feel stupid about for like offering him the broom or anything, that's purely a friendly gesture. His behavior on the other side seems to me pretty reserved and insecure of what he likes. Apparently everyone of us appreciates when someone likes us and we are nice to those people. I liked one Scorpio guy and I was stuck with feelings for him for 3 years and I do not want you to repeat my mistake. Scorpio people are very loyal friends but if it comes for a relationship they can become jealous and really intense in their feelings, very mysterious and that might cause a lot of misunderstanding and misinterpreting. I am sure that when you feel he likes you, he most probably does like you. Although he might not have realized what he is looking for in his life, he might be confused and he might not be aware of weather he wants to take that route or he might also not know what exactly you feel for him and there might be many and different reasons for his behavior. I would suggest that you talk to him at some point, try to be closer friends and just see if that would lead to know him further and figure out what he wants. In my case with that Scorpio guy someone told him I like him and things were really messed up as I had to confess and he rejected me although he wanted my friendship and wanted to keep me as someone in his life and it was really hard for me. I was his friend for 3 years and having a lot of feelings for him and always hoping something might come out of it when he was showing attention and interest but at the end it was so painful for me to watch the way he flirts and behaves to other girls. I went out with a friend of him to make him jelous and that was a very stupid mistake I have done and moreover his friend lied to me and hurt me. It was all so painful for me that at the end I just was honest and wrote the Scorpio guy a letter explaining how I felt and apologizing for the mistakes I have done and then I left the stage of that weird friendship. It was so hard, I was crying for a month as he didn't replay to me firstly but later we talked, we both apologized for our mistakes and the way we made each other feel and I understood I need to leave and just wish him all the best with his life and continue with my life. I am telling you that because I hope you won't repeat any of my mistakes and you won't stay stuck for too long for something you do not know what exactly is going on. I am not saying that your situation is similar but I just think that if you are open and honest to the person you like, especially Scorpios they understand and they appreciate honesty. No one is stupid for having feelings, that's not something we decide and determine and I encourage you to talk to him and make things clear. I do not want you to get hurt and maybe by sharing things with him would help you realize more things about yourself and about him too. It might turn that he really likes you too, or it might be that you would remain just friends. Eight months is not such a long time. At the moment since I moved on from that Scorpio guy I like a Cancer guy and it's been eight months since I am still exploring the soil and just being shy but also friendly and helpful when I can, so for such a short time we can not always say definitely what direction things would get. Be yourself, be honest, never play mind games, show that Scorpio you can not play games of affection and then cold attitude as that might end up someone getting hurt and then try to find out the way he sees you and make it clear for yourself and him. All the best and you sound as a really nice person so be more confident and comfortable with your feelings. I hope he is a nice man who would appreciate you for the person you are weather in friendship or relationship.
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maddi Knowflake Posts: 47 From: New Jerzee Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 20, 2011 09:03 AM
Thank you Geri, Thanks for sharing. I really can relate, and you really opened my eyes about something. o.OI feel like I can get burned very badly if something goes wrong. And I'm not a mean person, I don't have hidden agendas, and I'm certainly not mysterious. With me, what you see is what you get. And I really HATE when people think that I'm up to something, or that I'm suspicious of something. I'm starting to learn (and maybe this is my lesson --Deux) I have to have a lot more self-esteem, and be more picky with who I allow in my life. Scorpio didn't do anything wrong. But, the potential for clashing ideas and personalities scares me soooo much. I've wasted so much time... IP: Logged |
Geri Newflake Posts: 12 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jan 2011
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posted January 20, 2011 11:50 AM
Hi again Maddi,It is really interesting to me now what is your horoscope sign. Anyway I think 8 months is just a probation period, it isn't that long time. You have not lost so much time, it is an experience and I am sure you are learning things from it, we always learn some things or maybe you would realize you learned something at a later point. I am sure you are open and honest person and you do not have hidden agendas, so am I but being suffering from so intense feelings with that Scorpio I told you, I reached a point that I was plotting on things which later I learned is very unhealthy for any kind of connection being relationship or friendship. I think it wouldn't mean anything so big if you just ask him for a hot chocolate sometime and just have a friendly chat and see how it goes. I guess you should not put so much pressure on yourself and think about the time you investigated, you can withdraw at any time if you want to. And moreover he have not done anything wrong to you as you said so no need to worry that things would end up you getting hurt. If you fear burning badly from sharing your feelings with him, then just do not, but rather show it through friendly gestures and just try to be friends on that level and see if some opportunity for more intimate conversation would arise. One thing I learned is that whatever makes you happy which does not hurt yourself or others is positive and good and you should keep it. And whatever makes you feel bad or suffer is just temporary thing and you should get out of there. If a person who makes you happy but sometimes sad due to misunderstanding that is okay, you can solve things out and continue. I hope you would get the guy who is nice and deserve to have your attention. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1859 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2011 01:55 PM
I had a bad experience with a Scorpio, where he gave me mixed messages for way too long. They have this way of sending out a vibe that's like, "My ignoring you, then giving you stormy looks, means that I'm secretly madly in love with you but I'm hiding it because my feelings are So Intense and So Deep that it would wound me if you rejected me."It's a b*lls**t fantasy. If a guy wants a relationship with you, and he isn't twelve or severely disturbed, he will want to touch you, kiss you, have dinner with you--and maybe test your trust from there. Eight months is too long. There are some questions to ask yourself: -Is this man ACTUALLY, TRULY single and available? Or is he still entangled in another relationship? -Are YOU actually, truly single and available? Eight months is a LONG TIME to obsess about the signals of a person who does not hold you, kiss you, make love to you, take you out to dinner, tell you he loves you, create a life together. What is going on in your life that you would be interested in that? Are you involved with someone else, but the thrill is gone? Have you been hurt, so you're scared to have a real relationship? My Scorpio had me hooked--it seemed like the next moment was always going to be the moment where he just admitted he liked me! Now I feel grateful that that never happened. A good match, of ANY sign, has the maturity and courage to put himself out there a little bit emotionally. Once I was with someone who wasn't all squirrely about letting me know how he felt, I couldn't even remember why the thing with the Scorpio went on for so long. I have two male Scorpio friends who are in relationships...mature Scorpio men who are not psychologically disturbed and are truly single and interested will make a move, because, like other human beings, they like to actually BE WITH the person they like/want. NOTE: If you two are both under sixteen years old, what I said doesn't apply--he might just be confused or shy. Also, you say you don't play games, but it sounds like maybe your ego has gotten involved in this situation. Instead of zigzagging around hoping for a sign from him, you might just ask him on a date, like someone suggested--a hot chocolate--without pretending that you are not interested in him. Maybe if it's all out in the open, he'll just tell you if he has another romantic involvement. If he's interested and shy, you could start dating. IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 20, 2011 03:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by maddi: I'm telling you, I want to be completely myself. I don't care about the head games, or 'getting him back' or any such thing.I don't understand him, his hot cold approach, but I feel something with him, like I've known him before, or something. Like instant comfort and ease. Until he's the one that looks uncomfortable. My intuition says that he likes me, really really likes me. But he's hesitant.
Soulmates are scary as *#() and what you are describing sounds like a soulmate feeling. I'm not a scorpio, but I have 4 draconic planets in scorpio and that's where my south node is. If I fall head over heels for a guy and he is perfect in every way conceivable I will *run* 90 miles per hour in the other direction because it is the most frightening thing in the world to meet someone who has -that- much power over me. Someone mentioned on another post about when you surround a scorpion in a ring of fire it will sting itself to death rather than lose control. Think of it that way. With the soulmate that had the strongest effect on me, I would destroy everything including myself if it meant I could be safe and away from him, not feeling in love and vulnerable. The only problem was I could never stop loving him. I suffered two years of the hot and cold thing, and the guy is a manipulative bipolar who's soul has issues with control. It's really really sad, but I was never supposed to be with him. The best moments of my life were just standing next to him. Sucks, but what can you do? Also, how he's acting may deal with his issues or past life hurts etc. I'm still trying to learn about my past lives with the person above, but the information is limited. Right now I probably have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than any resolution. Reading your posts I do think he likes you but feelings are complex. I don't like how people here are painting it as black and white. There are people that I really want to be with but don't at the same time for x reason. I was that way with the soulmate I mentioned. It's not about maturity. When the soul endures enough trauma in a lifetime it's about survival. A lot of my trauma dwells in the subconcious. Really I don't know his deal. It might help to see akashic reader to see if you can pick up on any past life residue or soul contracts. While it is possible to be projecting, I think people tend to say that too much. The human brain is hard-wired to read "I love you" off a person's face. It's how we reproduce. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Everywhere :) Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 20, 2011 05:30 PM
Geri, Lucia23 and mochai, You guys are so right. maddi, I'm sorry things are so confusing with your guy. I wish I could help. Try what the others have said, talk to him. Geri is right when she says that Scorpios value honesty.
Good luck girl.
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Moons Of Jupiter Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Australia Registered: Jun 2010
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posted January 21, 2011 01:01 AM
First, massive massive LOL at 'he shoveled around my car'. I'm still laughing. I think that says a lot all on its own. Secondly, do NOT let astrology's views on the sign of Scorpio seduce you away from the fact that it's still human beings hosting these characteristics. If a man wants you, Scorpio or no, he will show it, he will find a way to express his interest, especially if he knows you're single and you've been more than open to him. Surely even as an un-evolved Scorp, he'll perceive it. I've seen soooo many women be like: "well I've waited on him to decide for a year, surely he wants me, cause he's a Scorpio and they don't hang around for nothing, yada yada yada....hate to burst their fantasy, but yes they do, like any man who can't quite make the move (for whatever reason, which is not your problem). And you have to come to a point in your life where you say to yourself: I NEED THIS from a man, THIS type of demonstrative affection, this type of action, THIS type of approach...THIS works for me, etc. And when you feel yourself getting stuck on someone who doesn't ever seem to cut it and drags you into this pointless guessing game, TIME TO KEEP STEPPING until someone is as sure about you as you are about them. It may sound simplistic, but when things get endlessly confusing, simplification is a MUST. You look at the facts, not the nuances and insinuations. Accept nothing less, and don't go for second best. If he comes around, amazing. If not, AMAZING-er (gospel according to your future twin-flame). Good luck, babe. 
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maddi Knowflake Posts: 47 From: New Jerzee Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 21, 2011 10:18 AM
Okay, I know I'm not delusional. It snowed again last night. This morning, he shoveled around my car, cleaned the windows and smiled the whole time he did it. I'll thank him when I see him, I'm not gonna run to him and smother him. But, is he just being nice, or does he want me to make a move? i've made bold moves before and but it scared him. Last night, I dreamt that he called me. I only remember him saying hello and speaking to me so calm and lovingly. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Everywhere :) Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 21, 2011 12:47 PM
maddi, I don't know if he likes you the same way as you do. I hope he does. But, how could you scare him just by being honest, and expressing your feelings? Especially if he feels the same. I mean, if he really does get scared, then that's a problem, isn't it? Because that would mean he doesn't feel the same, otherwise he would be glad you made the first move. So, think about it. If you really want to know how he feels about you, you are the only one who can ask him. Maybe not directly, but in an indirect way. Invite him somewhere or something. Not knowing can be really nerve-racking.. So clear things out ! I'm sure you are a strong woman. If he hasn't got the balls to make the first move, then you do it. See what happens. At least you'll be fixed, hopefully. And, Moons of Jupiter is right, if a guy really wants you.. he'll do something about it. No matter how shy he is. Good luck again maddi. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1859 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2011 04:04 PM
Is he actually single?My guess is that he's either actively involved with someone else, or deeply in love with someone else in his heart. And you must have some reason that you would rather obsess about this guy than have real love, communication, sex, intimacy, and companionship with someone you're actually dating. The fantasy that he's feeling intensely, but scared, allows you to obsess in your head without actually connecting to another human being. This could go on forever, but maybe talking to a counselor with expertise on intimacy issues would move it along. quote: I'll thank him when I see him, I'm not gonna run to him and smother him. But, is he just being nice, or does he want me to make a move?
Why don't you ask him? He would know the answer to that better than we would, a bunch of strangers on the internet. IP: Logged |
Geri Newflake Posts: 12 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jan 2011
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posted January 23, 2011 10:13 PM
Hi maddi,I think Moons of Jupiter and Doux Rêve are really right in saying that the Scorpio guy shouldn't be scared of you being honest and showing him how you feel. Doux Rêve always have some great insights and I have feeling she knows and examines things beyond the logical level of explanations so I guess as she advises you should gain confidence and find out. Maybe he isn't scared, maybe he is just insecure. I am sure he likes you in his own way when he shovelled around your car and cleaned the windows and smiled. Maybe you can tell him thank you very much and ask him if he wants a tea in that cold weather and then you can chat and just see how it goes. Making some friendly gestures wouldn't necessarily mean you are so much into him if you are scared to show it now. I know very well how you feel as I like one Cancer guy and I am so scared of rejection that I am doing anything else and taking things at a very very slow speed and I wouldn't handle it well to learn he doesn't feel the same so I wouldn't probably dare to ask but I am doing some things like always trying to be nice and always trying to talk to him no matter in what context. Maybe you can just decide that each time you see him you would start a 1-2 minutes conversation with him no matter about what, just what spontaneously come to your mind. And that helps a lot for learning about the person. Maybe you can really carefully examine his body language and the way he talks to you, the way he approaches you, even the way he ignores you, it might say something about his way of feeling about you. Me even unable to be so brave and ask someone out, I still think I migth do that one day as I really like that guy, and I think it goes both for men and women, when you like someone you try your best to get to know them. So just try that and do not be afraid as maybe that would tell you much more about where he is and you would know better. Honestly is really important and no one would laugh or joke about it. There is nothing wrong to like someone, it is nice and I hope that Scorpio man would appreciate it, if not I hope he can be a loyal friend to you. IP: Logged | |