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Cecile
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posted January 12, 2011 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey everyone,

I was hoping we could talk about natal pluto trine venus. Do you any of you have it or know someone who does? What have your experiences been like?

Here's some interesting info. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusplutoaspects.html

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Venus sextile Pluto or Venus trine Pluto: *You love deeply, passionately, and wholeheartedly, and others may find your intensity either extremely attractive or threatening. You are charismatic and can have a powerful emotional influence on others, especially those of the opposite sex. You may use your attractiveness to manipulate others, sometimes without even realizing it.


From http://blog.californiapsychics.com/blog/2007/01/venus-pluto-and-you.html/
About venus and pluto natal aspects

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If you’ve got Venus’ seductiveness combined with Pluto’s brooding intensity you’ve got an intense sexual magnetism that keeps your life eventful and maybe even chaotic.

Understanding these dynamic forces is the key to learning to love all the intensity you generate. These planets in aspect mix Venus’ fabled arts of love, attraction and sensual expressiveness with Pluto’s dark control, passion, and devotion. This potent mash-up creates your explosive, powerful, sexual aura. In other words, if Venus is beauty, love and infatuation, then Pluto is black leather, passion and force. When you’ve got these forces harnessed together in your birth chart, they can exert a head-turning intensity that captivates both the brave and the vulnerable.

If you don’t have Venus and Pluto in aspect but do have Pluto in aspect to your Sun, Moon, Ascendant or Mid-heaven; or a packed Eighth House; or a preponderance of planets in Scorpio you’ll radiate a similar mysterious, bewitching, thrilling aura of dangerous intensity. That makes for too many variables to discuss in this article, yet you may find some pointers below if you’ve found that all that intensity isn’t working in your favor.


If you’ve got a Venus/Pluto aspect in your chart, your happiness in love depends on understanding and working with the forceful energies that are your birthright. Check your astrological birth chart to see what aspect Pluto and Venus entertain for you.


http://blog.californiapsychics.com/blog/2007/01/venus-pluto-and-you.html/

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Venus sextile or trine Pluto
With the sextile and the trines, these stellar, shining aspects bring the best qualities of Venus and Pluto to the fore. Like oil cast on troubled water, the disturbances are soothed and what shines forth is a magnetic, powerful, charming, smoldering sensuality. Charismatic and even-handed, you’re often widely adored and admired. When you’re fascinated with something or someone you literally have superhuman energy – but when you’re uninterested even a limpet would be considered more dynamic.


You still have all the passion and sexuality of any Venus/Pluto aspect but your attractiveness and interest in others mutes its destructive effects. You can still be overly intense, and your charm can seem overly manipulative compared to lesser mortals; yet you care deeply for others and those who can handle your energy become fast friends or devotees. Since your deep creativity isn’t encumbered by pointless, passionate excess, you’re often a productive and inspired artist.



Doesn't the last article make the aspect sound fantastic?

Anyways I definitely have a pluto trine venus (DOB: July 15th, 1987, Windsor ON, 5PM) and yet I've never felt anything like this. I've got almost no game with guys and I'm sometimes described as being "girl pretty" aka lacking in sex appeal where the other gender is concerned. What do you guys think is going on? I even have a packed eight house (which should help me radiate a similar energy). Is there something else in my chart that keeps me from feeling the trine? Do you think there's a chance my upcoming pluto opposition venus transit will kick things into gear? Or do I have it and just don't know how to use it?

So interested in discussing this one

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Ami Anne
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posted January 12, 2011 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have any Saturn/venus aspects?
What do you have aspecting your ASC and your Venus.
Where is your Eros,too?

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posted January 12, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Saturn/Venus Aspects

Venus
Venus Opposition Neptune 6.08 -57
Venus Trine Pluto 5.09 43
Venus Sextile Midheaven 1.35 85

ASC
Sun Trine Ascendant 5.27 32
Moon Trine Ascendant 0.03 89
Mars Trine Ascendant 7.34 3

I don't know where my Eros is either.

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posted January 12, 2011 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out your Eros .
What ARE your Saturn placements?

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posted January 12, 2011 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm just responding to the topic title...i can feel my pluto sextile venus..very powerful

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posted January 12, 2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Check out your Eros .
What ARE your Saturn placements?


Saturn Conjunction Uranus 8.09 52
Saturn Square Midheaven 1.33 -30

Eros in Leo, but I don't know where it is...

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posted January 12, 2011 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have Venus Trine Pluto, and I never noticed anything mysterious, intense or whatever about myself either.

I do have Saturn square venus, as well as square Jupiter and MC. neptune opposite venus to.

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posted January 12, 2011 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cecile
Go on a site where you can find the exact degrees of Eros
Then tell me it's aspects.
Maybe it squares your ASC or Saturn?

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posted January 12, 2011 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this chart includes it (Eros) in the chart (as Eres). In any case anyone wants to look at the chart, here it is:


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posted January 12, 2011 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus trine pluto natally,feeling it strongly,pushed afore by mars that's squaring venus.
But,u have strong 8th H,it is not always visible. It'D be easily activated.
btw,sagittairus asc... it is not sexappeal they operate with. Fire ascs don't do that.
What's love like with u?

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posted January 12, 2011 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eris is different lol

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posted January 12, 2011 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cecile,Under box where u marked lilith,vesta etc to show on ur chart,put numbers 433,16

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posted January 12, 2011 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for all of your help! Your guys are amazing
Alright, I *think* I *finally* have it:

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
But,u have strong 8th H,it is not always visible. It'D be easily activated.
btw,sagittairus asc... it is not sexappeal they operate with. Fire ascs don't do that.
What's love like with u?[/B]

I have a packed 8th house. Count em': Venus, Mercury, Sun and Mars. Right now Pluto is going through my eight house and is opposing my Mercury and is soon to be oppose my Venus as well. Let's just say it's a time of growth for me. Not always the easiest process. But I do wonder if it will kickstart my natal pluto trine venus aspect.

Oddly enough, reputable astrology websites come back with different signs for my ascendant. Astrodienst is showing Saggitarius while Astrology.come goes with Scorpio. So I have no idea what to make of it.

My love life is pretty sorry. Nothing terrible has ever happened. I just haven't had a relationship so far. There have been a couple of near brushes, but nothing solid. It's another mystery for me, since it seems like I have good (at least to my untrained eye) venus aspects. If someone can look at my chart, and tell me what they think my love life would be like, I'd really appreciate it.

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posted January 13, 2011 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 13, 2011 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your venus is conjunct your vertex in cancer.

I found these interpretatins on cafe astrology. Are they remotely true?
Vertex in Cancer

You are expected to deal with the public or in the public interest, handle the emotional factors in situations, and learn to deal with women or public figures. People also anticipate your ability to spot trends and accept a background or parental role, and to acknowledge the emotional side of your nature.

Doing these things may help you to develop your nurturing qualities and to recognize your own dependency needs as legitimate concerns in your life. You may also discover a capacity to play the parent role to the world.

Not accomplishing these things may put you at the mercy of other people�s emotions. Situations become distorted and conflicts develop with people who feel you have let them down. You may also give in to the temptation to suppress your emotions.

Vertex Conjunct Venus

You are often expected to rely on your charm and good looks to advance in life. Money is usually plentiful and important to you. There is a love of beautiful possessions and an active social life for which you are willing to put out a lot of effort. There is usually popularity too.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2007/12/understanding-the-vertex-bette.html

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posted January 13, 2011 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
use placidius for the ascendant.

I see pluto is also, or maybe in teh 12th, of self undoing, and mercury - thought and logic, i widely conjunct vertex, venus, making them seem inseperable to you.

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posted January 13, 2011 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna throw a few things out. You have an unaspected Eros.
Anyone, would this be like an unaspected Venus?
If so,it is buried until you dig it up?
I don't know if asteroids are considered unaspected ,though.

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posted January 13, 2011 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eros is trined by uranus.
Psyche on mc... Soul to be exposed... Could be a turn off. Besides 8th h energy ain't wishywashy stuff,mere mortals can't handle it

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posted January 13, 2011 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Your venus is conjunct your vertex in cancer.

I found these interpretatins on cafe astrology. Are they remotely true?

Vertex in Cancer

You are expected to deal with the public or in the public interest, handle the emotional factors in situations, and learn to deal with women or public figures. People also anticipate your ability to spot trends and accept a background or parental role, and to acknowledge the emotional side of your nature.

Doing these things may help you to develop your nurturing qualities and to recognize your own dependency needs as legitimate concerns in your life. You may also discover a capacity to play the parent role to the world.

Not accomplishing these things may put you at the mercy of other people�s emotions. Situations become distorted and conflicts develop with people who feel you have let them down. You may also give in to the temptation to suppress your emotions.


I don't feel like there's been any particular expectation to handle emotional situations, the public or women. But I could definitely see having to handle these issues in the future as I'm in the medical field.

But I have noticed that people anticipate my ability to spot trends. That's something that's being acknowledged increasingly.

I'll definitely keep an eye out for life giving me the chance to develop my nurturing qualities. It almost sounds like doing so will help to balance me emotionally and to help me work through some issues.

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Vertex Conjunct Venus

You are often expected to rely on your charm and good looks to advance in life. Money is usually plentiful and important to you. There is a love of beautiful possessions and an active social life for which you are willing to put out a lot of effort. There is usually popularity too.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2007/12/understanding-the-vertex-bette. html


All of this is more or less true. Ie in a workplace/social setting, I have a good track record of leveraging my looks and charm to move things along. But we hit a snag at the part about social lives. There are definitely times when I have active an social life, and I'm willing to put in a lot of time and energy. But this isn't something I deal with a lot of the time. Unfortunately I have a Saturn in the first house which gives me maturity beyond my years and at least during my youth will get in the way of a social life and probably make me more serious than I'd like to be.

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
use placidius for the ascendant.

Apparently I have been using placidus on both astrodienst and cafe astro... I still don't know what to make of it. If I had to chose one, I'd be inclined to go with Scorpio ascendant since that house placement makes more sense to me.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am gonna throw a few things out. You have an unaspected Eros.
Anyone, would this be like an unaspected Venus?
If so,it is buried until you dig it up?
I don't know if asteroids are considered unaspected ,though.


I could see that being the case. Unfortunately I don't know if asteroids are considered unaspected or not... By dig up, do you mean, I need to make a conscious effort to use it, or can something happen to activate and dig it up? This is something I'm really curious about.

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Eros is trined by uranus.
Psyche on mc... Soul to be exposed... Could be a turn off.

LOL I could definitely see that being a huge turnoff

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posted January 13, 2011 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to throw something else out there: I was always under the impression that I had a taurus on the cusp of an empty seventh house. Recently I found out that I have a chiron in the very end of my seventh. I've received my fair share of emotional wounds and rejection as suggested by having chiron in seventh. I also have a tendency to define myself through others and those I relate to, also suggesting I have a chiron in seventh. Maybe having been hurt so much in friendships, I've closed myself off romantically?

Since Chiron is an asteroid, does anyone know if it can be a house ruler? If it is, do you think it would win out over the taurus? I'm REALLY hoping taurus rules the day when it comes to my future marriage. I feel like it will be a lot better for me than chiron.

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posted January 13, 2011 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im sure the trine is evident in you just in other ways but yet relate back to the theme of pluto.

it might not be to do with how you appeal to others in dress or appearence.

it might be what you find attractive in others, or ideal in love, or interests and hobbies of yours - psychology? , could be reflected in your values in life, people, love.

it could be various things maybe, thats the best idea i could offer.

but it ought to show up somewhere you, and fit or relate a pluto theme.

consider your asc, the depositor of your venus - moon in pisces, and the other aspects your venus makes.

its possible you arent incorporating pluto and perhaps tahts what you experience through others than yourself.

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posted January 13, 2011 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by letram:
im sure the trine is evident in you just in other ways but yet relate back to the theme of pluto.

it might not be to do with how you appeal to others in dress or appearence.

it might be what you find attractive in others, or ideal in love, or interests and hobbies of yours - psychology? , could be reflected in your values in life, people, love.

it could be various things maybe, thats the best idea i could offer.

but it ought to show up somewhere you, and fit or relate a pluto theme.

consider your asc, the depositor of your venus - moon in pisces, and the other aspects your venus makes.

its possible you arent incorporating pluto and perhaps tahts what you experience through others than yourself.


this is true, pluto is associated with research, and unearthing. I have it in the sixth house, i've always researched things like diet, health, how to help others, psychology, etc...to understand assist, but with pluto in the sixth i risk the danger of going over the top....it's trine my mars, i would be a pretty good dietition and trianer, but it's my south node conjunct..

I think letram is right, and letram i can see how your gaining knowledge by the day and it's impressive, not my place to say that though.

So with pluto in the 11th, but mostly in the 12th, you would plunge deep inside yourself to discover relating to the collective.....idealy this would be great, but since your chiron is in the 7th, I would probably use this information to relate to that or other things in the chart - agent see you healed me I used I instead of you....lets see if i can remember to keep doing this.

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posted January 13, 2011 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you may love researching stuff to help people change on emotional levels...your research would involve archtypes of some sort produced by the society...you may even be a gifted speaker...you have the vertex in cancer in the 8th house...that's why i say this and venus is conjunct your vertex...

all theories of course.

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posted January 13, 2011 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
above post is redundant as i dind't read you said you were in the medical field, which is kind of like what I think pluto trine venus in cancer conjunct vertex would be...

So you know jack white is a cancer sun, saturn, and moon and the one of his ablums was entitled white blood cells.

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posted January 13, 2011 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also,1st H saturn-demure disposition.
Astrology aside,it could be society u form part of;is there specific type of looks for gal to be seen as sexy?
Lovin ur leo eros,btw. I have it in aries,insane...
My trine showed itself firstly when i had tonsils surgery. Then through my aspirations:arts... But i have prominent venus,so it would work more than some other aspects.
Ain't easy to gain 8th h venus heart

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