posted January 13, 2011 01:55 PM            

they say the NN is an energy and sign were likely unfamiliar with (unless you have planets/points in taht sign of course) but even if you do, it doesn't change the inherent nature of you being more familiar with your SOUTH NODE energy.

your south node is what you are familiar with, where you have come from, what your wealth of experience feels most comfortable relating to, what you think is right, what you know best, what you think is so. it is your own perspective you are accustomed to.

its said, that we are not likely to feel emotionally fulfilled and free if we stay with our South Node energy in life. my theory on why is because change is attractive, everything changes with time. if things never change, it would tire, become boring, become necessity, become common practice.

i am an Aquarius NN individual, in my case, the analogy im going to use is a Celebrity. imagine a celebrity who has been glamourized, widely known in deep fame, gets so much attention, they know how to maintain it. thats who they are - a celebrity, they are famous. and thats what they wanted to be, thats what everyday life becomes like, attention. over time it can be something that feels like it has to be kept up, like a music artist who needs another hit single.

here is a celebrity im going to use as a further analogy - michael jackson, arguably the most famous musician in the world, and perhaps music history. had about all the attention and fame an artist could have. hes been there, done that. lets just say michael jackson represents the Leo south node now, this is what he is used to, accustomed to, a Leo southnode individual is now brought into this generation, the southnode is where we have been, are coming from, what we have experienced. what were accustomed to.

leo southnode individuals are likely to feel like Michael Jackson probably did on his last tour(that he never got to perform) in life, they want attention, fame, they know how to be leos, and they be leo like. in translation to the michael jackson analogy - he needed money after all he had lost, it was that time, but if michael jackson enevr needed the money do you think he wouldve made such efforts for a tour again, to that scale atleast? probaly not, he was likely used to doing rehearsals, this is like a leo southnode individual being used to their leo like nature, but its not emotionally fulfilling, its not fresh, its more like some kind of trap to be that way because thats what they are, and are accustomed to who they are as themselves.

but int his life time, the North Node represents what we should become accustomed to in nature and behaviour. it is foreign to us, especially if you lack anything in taht NN Sign, and especially if you have planets and poiints in the south nod esign opposite. for that reason, it may be an energy that we fear because we don't understand it so well, yet it is appealing.

what we eventually find is as we become familiar with that North Node energy, it is likely going to make you feel emotionally rich and fulfilled, free in some way, something different as a new approach to waht you have been accustomed to striving for in life. a new healthy perspective.

posted January 13, 2011 02:25 PM            

• He must learn to blend individuality with group-consciousness
• He must calm his ego and prepare to willingly step down from “his thrown”
• He must resist looking down on other people and accept them for the equals that they are
• He must realize that the world does not revolve around him

• Needs attention............Individualistic
•Melodramatic................Social activist - well, im no social activist, but im certainly not melodramatic.

• Vain.......Friendly
• Needs center stage...........Broad-minded
• Autocratic.......................Objective
•Patronizing.......................Idealistic
•Disdainfull......................Progressive

what im currently still evoling towards - the middle ground i have found -

• Requires applause.........Values equality
• Demands respect..................Inventive
•Dictating......................Intellectual - without a doubt i am an intellectual, but i will still be dictating if i must get down to business - if i need to take control of a situation.

•Self-centered.......................Tolerant
- definitely both, but still a bit more self centered than tollerant.

•Pretentious......................Imaginative
• Conceited...................Altruistic

still finding hard to learn -

putting others before myself.

• He must learn to live without constant approval
• He must carefully choose the causes he plans to support; discerning between true need of the cause and his own need for applause
• He must learn to view himself as part of the masses; a comrade to all his fellowman
• He must be brave and remain true to his off-the-beaten-path journey

• Fearful of aging..............Humanistic

for me, i believe my Leo Sun/ASC and Aries moon make my NN challenging to grow completel familiar with.

i feel my virgo/3rd house placements, and mercury & mars in a mercury sign make the intellectual side naturally familiar to me t evolve towards.

my venus in libra in the 3rd especially for the concern of others, equality, etc.

my sun trine uranus gives my NN a chance despite my sun conjuncting my southnode to 2 orb.

so wheere is everyone else in their development towards being like their NN?

is it too unfamiliar to the energy in your chart?

whats your favorite moments?

my favorite NN- like moment was when we all went out on a friends 21st birthday for drinks and a long night, and when we got to the bar, he lost his wallet (all his cards and £120 money for the night, and this ended up stopping him from going on holiday the next day with his fiance)

everyone looked for it btu we couldnt find it - he even confided to some of us closer friends that maybe one of his own "long time associate aquantainces" took it.

in the end, the night had to be over, he wanted to go home, he was really upset and angry, and i felt so sorry for him. i felt guilty just being there and witnessing his loss on his birth day. then something came over me, and compelled me to give him all the money i had out with me that night. i said to tohers we should all put our money together for him that we wouldve spent on drinks, so he'd get most or all his money back.

no one seemed to be itnerestedi n my idea, but i decided and felt to do it, i gave him my £30 pounds, i really felt to, and it made me feel so happy and fulfilled that i did that. he really appreciated it and it cheered him up alot, he was so reluctant at first, a friend wouldnt want to just take £30 pounds off you "for no reason".

anyway,thats my favorite moment, i usually never do anything like that for anyone in my life. it made me feel very good, i knew that was a NN moment for me.

he always remembered that too, he bought me things, that tought me that people really can "pay you back" even though waht i did had no intention of give to receive.

reminsd me of the film "It's A Wonderful Life" that is a good film to watch for anyone with an Aquarius NN.

favorite musician who's life played out this leo SN vs Aquarius NN challenge - Tupac Shakur.

posted January 13, 2011 02:38 PM            

I would like to add, incase you didn't mention this, that our south node is what is easiest for us.

That's probably why michael jackson became famous so easy, all that entertaining was easy for him to fall into....like that it's easy for me to research things, my south node is in scorpio, and waist all my energy on being intense and manipulative and controlling, and unearthing everything to my own detriment, and it's also really easy for me to serve others as I know instinctively what they desire...but it's really hard for me to go with the flow - or was before, north node in 12th house, and hard for me to say no, cave in to peer pressure suprisingly easy in the past, north node in taurus would have me be more stubborn, but wisely so.

I totaly understand, and your small example is a perfect case of when a fractal or pattern of the chart manifests in something that seems minute, but is subtley great.

posted January 13, 2011 05:05 PM            

i didn' mention easiest, though thats essentially what i try to convey by explaining why its easiest

i didnt know what michael jacksons Nn was, but its in libra, which means his south node is in aries - determined to survive, to be somebody, to have do, to be. but his leo venus and mercury, but venus especially wouldve loved the attention. his asc in libra clearly knows how to handdle the attention he got.

your NN ins the 6th house reminds me of my partners, hers is in virgo but in the 4th house. you likely feel compelled to work hard either mentally or physically, your nn says to go with the flow indeed, but i'd think with your pisces moon that should be natural for you, i think you do but perhaps you don't see how. if you wnat to see how, in astrology, you have to be analytical and understanding, and perceptive of how its themes are playing out in different ways.

i did this myself recently.

its interesting in your case because your moon is "arrived" at where your NN is, but you are coming from south ndoe energy that is 6th house/virgo. yet your moon which essentially represents what the SN does, is in the same sign as your NN.

i'll give an example, we was speaking of how she would feel more free in the NN energy rather than her virgo south node energy.

here is what i realized when looking into it -

south node in virgo, this would suggest organization, perfectionism, orientated to make sure everything is "right", hard working, planning, clean (out of desire to work hard in effort) planning is the opposite of going with the flow freely (pisces).

we realized this sn vs nn energy played out in her Fear. i wont go int owaht her fear is but basically, to avoid her fear, she had to be extra cleansly, hand washing, contimination fear, organizing and planning out the best ways to avoid facing her fear.

this past year she has been doing the opposite - not washing her hands obsessively, not planning ways best to avoid facing her fear, not doing things right. etc - thats going with the flow, having faith, trust and beleif in things going right rather than planning and doing them right, thats pisces.

and when shes acheived this, she has felt more free, though uncomfy initiatlly. and still struggles to remain in that foreign energy to her.

another excample is virgo southnode people maybe orientated with working hard for a living, alot, where as a pisces southnode individual or strong pisces person, may be sick prone, health issues - disorders, leading to reasonings to claim welfare etc. thats going with the flow, thats the opposite of hard work and planning, thats the other "version" of Jupiters freedom (neptune).

posted January 13, 2011 05:52 PM            

One thing I have notice is I call people out when they don't take responsibility for their actions or have lack of integrity in their word where I use to just go with the flow and not take a stand at all. That's the main thing I have notice with me moving toward my NN in Virgo.

posted January 14, 2011 12:12 AM            

I dont necessarily feel we have to "leave behind," our SN. I feel that I have been constantly living both concurrently. However certain instincts related to SN just came a bit easier. Doesnt mean I was immediately an expert regarding SN issues. However both sides NN/SN still need fine tuning.

posted January 14, 2011 12:45 AM            

My NN is in Cancer, 3rd house, conjunct POF
My SN is in Cap, 9th house, with tPluto sitting right on top of the SN with a vengeance. For over a year now, tPluto has been going back and forth, back and forth, over my SN. Wow, what a long, strange trip it has been.

Every time I've been to an astrologer, they've all told me that I have a great chart to be a writer, because of the NN/POF in the 3rd. I've done a bit of writing here and there, but nothing too serious. Now, weirdly enough, that whole area seems to be developing for me.

posted January 14, 2011 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Cosmic, If I'm not mistaken the transiting nodes are now in Capricorn/Cancer, early degrees conj Pluto (?), with NN being in Capricorn right now, so if they're conj your natal axis (in any way) you're gonna be going through a big turning point.
Check out your chart and add transits, cos I could be wrong.

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Yes, my NN is 5 degrees, and the transiting nodes just passed over last month. Nothing really happened. Mars also passed over, and was uneventful. However, the period now, with tPluto sitting right on the SN at 5 degrees, wow. That's when the stuff hits the fan good and hard. When tPluto first started to creep towards my SN, that's when I left nursing school. It was clear nursing school and I were not meant to be. I wonder if it wasn't good old Pluto that finally sent me out the door, since I was in something that was so inauthentic to whom I am.

posted January 14, 2011 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
OK I broke down and checked the transit, it's at 2 Capricorn right now turning direct.
I've noticed the 1st hit lays the groundwork for an event, and the more the point/planet in question moves over it, back and forth, the more it is felt as a change from outside or inner stimulus to change. So it could have been a thought as to, what if this were different? That could've been the 1st hit. Anyway tell me if that makes sense.

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Oh yeah, it makes sense! Definitely, there's a big change going on in my life. I just can't figure out where Cancer/Cap fit in to it.

posted January 15, 2011 06:44 AM            

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Originally posted by letram:
Hey road,

i didn' mention easiest, though thats essentially what i try to convey by explaining why its easiest

i didnt know what michael jacksons Nn was, but its in libra, which means his south node is in aries - determined to survive, to be somebody, to have do, to be. but his leo venus and mercury, but venus especially wouldve loved the attention. his asc in libra clearly knows how to handdle the attention he got.

your NN ins the 6th house reminds me of my partners, hers is in virgo but in the 4th house. you likely feel compelled to work hard either mentally or physically, your nn says to go with the flow indeed, but i'd think with your pisces moon that should be natural for you, i think you do but perhaps you don't see how. if you wnat to see how, in astrology, you have to be analytical and understanding, and perceptive of how its themes are playing out in different ways.

i did this myself recently.

its interesting in your case because your moon is "arrived" at where your NN is, but you are coming from south ndoe energy that is 6th house/virgo. yet your moon which essentially represents what the SN does, is in the same sign as your NN.

i'll give an example, we was speaking of how she would feel more free in the NN energy rather than her virgo south node energy.

here is what i realized when looking into it -

south node in virgo, this would suggest organization, perfectionism, orientated to make sure everything is "right", hard working, planning, clean (out of desire to work hard in effort) planning is the opposite of going with the flow freely (pisces).

we realized this sn vs nn energy played out in her Fear. i wont go int owaht her fear is but basically, to avoid her fear, she had to be extra cleansly, hand washing, contimination fear, organizing and planning out the best ways to avoid facing her fear.

this past year she has been doing the opposite - not washing her hands obsessively, not planning ways best to avoid facing her fear, not doing things right. etc - thats going with the flow, having faith, trust and beleif in things going right rather than planning and doing them right, thats pisces.

and when shes acheived this, she has felt more free, though uncomfy initiatlly. and still struggles to remain in that foreign energy to her.

another excample is virgo southnode people maybe orientated with working hard for a living, alot, where as a pisces southnode individual or strong pisces person, may be sick prone, health issues - disorders, leading to reasonings to claim welfare etc. thats going with the flow, thats the opposite of hard work and planning, thats the other "version" of Jupiters freedom (neptune).

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posted January 15, 2011 09:05 AM            

It took a lot of inner work and still does, more than ever, to not fall back on my Virgo SN and start setting off counterproductive self-criticism in my head.

It is not easy with a Scorpio Stellium[Sun/Moon, Pluto, Mercury and IC] trine Cancer Rising to "let go" and trust the Universe to have a plan in place for me, but as Linda herself said:
Stars incline, they do not compel...

The SN still starts its chatter in the face of setbacks and yes, there are setbacks, "tests" to see if the lesson has been assimilated or not.

There is pain and much hurt too, to open your Heart to the world and not worry about the consequences, but a closed Heart is not an Alive Heart.

Every day is a new test, a new achievement, a new lesson, a new experience...I carry on...have to, for my Soul's Redemption

posted January 15, 2011 08:12 PM            

My NN is in Libra 7th house and SN is in Aries 12th house

posted January 15, 2011 08:21 PM            

thanks, I owe you big so don't worry...

posted January 15, 2011 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Linda, I'm going to do a full 10 minute video for you by tomorrow, in a seperate thread can you post your chart, I want to read what it says about your placements in the book, and have more time to think abou *** , it's harder for me to do anothers chart than my own. It will be my pleasure, but I have to execise integrity with myself and do some studying, that way I can help you out better - stable mood and all that...

thanks, I owe you big so don't worry...

by tomorrow meaning possibly by the night, i'm staying in tonight and studying, but i'm getting sleepy, been waking up at 4-5 am.

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Hey thanks buddy!! cheers!!

posted January 15, 2011 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Linda, I'm going to do a full 10 minute video for you by tomorrow, in a seperate thread can you post your chart, I want to read what it says about your placements in the book, and have more time to think abou *** , it's harder for me to do anothers chart than my own. It will be my pleasure, but I have to execise integrity with myself and do some studying, that way I can help you out better - stable mood and all that...

thanks, I owe you big so don't worry...

by tomorrow meaning possibly by the night, i'm staying in tonight and studying, but i'm getting sleepy, been waking up at 4-5 am.

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Since you have so kindly offered me your help

Here is my Chart: