posted January 16, 2011 02:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
For example here's a pic of an Aries Rising,

Where do you see his Asc?

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posted January 16, 2011 06:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
lindaGreg, talk to me about Aries Asc & how its perceived in your life, others reactions etc?

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Dear Lonake,

Here is how I see/feel/think/do as well as how I am perceived by others.

1)I am a highly spontaneous person. For example, I got up one day and decided that I should catch a plane from Sydney to LA to attend this one day seminar that was supposed to take place within that next coming week. The next week I was in LA.

2)I can stand anything but not fakeness in personality or character in people.In other words, I don't like two-faced people with double standards - changing their opinions and beliefs depending on what is popular at that time

Examples of people I love and respect are, George Carlin The Great, Christopher Hitchens, Bill Maher, Bill Hicks etc. not just because they are best of comedians (of course with an exception to Christopher Hitchens who is not a comedian) but because they like to call a spade a bloody shovel. No beating around the bush. What you see you is what you get whether you love it or not.

3) I have a lot of respect for people who are honest and full of personal integrity. Honesty in people trumps everything else. I will go out of my way to help and be of service to such people, without any expectations in return. As a matter of fact I even walked away from an otherwise fantastic project just to honor my integrity.People can say I am foolhardy but to me, I have a different view altogether.

4) I am very very quick at learning new skills; I am very good at math and any sort of analytical work (probably more to do with my Virgo sun and Virgo mercury)

5) A lot of my work collegues who are also my friends told me that their first impression about me was that I tend to be very reserved and discrete with my words and behavior.I think they are right, I don't mix business with pleasure.So I choose my words very carefully. Having said that I am not that stuck up either. I just try not over do it as much as possible. (I don't know how of Virgo Sun plays in this part)

6) I always end up having power struggles at workplaces with my managers.This is usually because of the nature of my work; especially when I am working on high profile projects dealing with client's highly sensitive information, there is a lot at stake and therefore whether I like it or not, I inevitable end up interacting with my manager's managers; that's it, my manager starts having fits over this because he cannot paint a rosy picture to his manager any more; besides I told you how frank I can be lol (pluto in 6th)

7)When it comes to doing the things I love, I have immense energy and stamina to consistantly do them and mostly I tend to complete them unlike typical Aries; probably my Virgo side helps me here.

8) I like doing things perfectly and only once. (again Sun Virgo)

9) I am usually very risk taking; once I have made up my mind, I don't look back. In general I have an optimistic view towards life but at the same time I take calculated risks.

10) When it comes to my dating style, my mantra is "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice I am kicking your ass"; and definitely there is no turning back situation in my case cos' usually it is too late by then; I am very practical when it comes to matters of heart. The only stage where I handle love matters like a strict business person is when I get emotionally cheated and hurt; that's when I cut my losses and move forward without a single teardrop from my eyes. (Is it Aries or Virgo?)

11) I am also very good at arguing with people in a very logical way and calm fashion. But usually I don't go out of my way to argue with everyone and anyone. I chose my fights.

I am sorry I am not good at separating my Aries and Virgo traits.

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12) I am very rebellious and I tend to show a lot of resistance to social norms and herd mentalities

13) I am also a fitness and health freak (virgo?)

14) I love playing with kids, but scared and guilty of bringing them into this scary and nasty world.

15) I also have a special place in my heart towards protecting our ecology and wildlife

16) I don't like showy people. I treasure simplicity and personal integrity in people.

This is also a response from a Virgo Sun/Mercury. So please tolerate my obsession with details ;

posted January 16, 2011 02:56 PM            

"I am a highly spontaneous person. "

"I don't like two-faced people with double standards - changing their opinions and beliefs depending on what is popular at that time"

"What you see you is what you get whether you love it or not."

"Honesty in people trumps everything else."

"I am usually very risk taking; once I have made up my mind, I don't look back. In general I have an optimistic view towards life "
(I think Virgo makes for the calculated risk)

"I love playing with kids, but scared and guilty of bringing them into this scary and nasty world. "

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posted January 16, 2011 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Nose! Nose! Nose!
Roman nose could be aries asc theme!
Narrow,pointy chin,THIN lips =all this prominent in men especially!
Nose,eyes,lips features places more to the center of face.
Yes,libra asc,combative=argumentative!

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posted January 16, 2011 03:45 PM            

Hope my psychobabble made some sense to you towards helping you understand an Aries ASC a bit more.

Although as you can see there is a lot of mixture of personality traits that I get from being both an Aries Asc and Virgo Sun. Also my Virgo Mercury and Aries Moon play a very significant role in my personality.

posted January 16, 2011 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by lindaGreg:

14) I love playing with kids, but scared and guilty of bringing them into this scary and nasty world.

So you can see that I am neither a pure Aries Asc nor a pure Virgo. To put it in a capsule I sometimes feel that I am a big nutcase.

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14 is definitely Virgo. Consciousness (spelled that wrong didn't I?) Anyway the point is that is most definitely a Virgo trait. They have a weird guilt complex.

The quality of both Aries and Virgo make you a very impatient person for different reasons. Aries- Because you want something to happen. You can't sit on your hands.
Virgo- Makes you impatient with sloppy thinking. That is something you cannot tolerate at all. Also when things don't happen they make you nervous and then you start cleaning

posted January 16, 2011 05:39 PM            

Here are your remaining questions answered.

Also what do you think about Libra placements in your 7th in synastry? Or just Libra energy in general?

Yes, Libra does play a significant role in my behavior towards my partners, although Uranus being in the same house (but is in Scorpio) throws a rather interesting spin on these matters.

In partnerships, I do believe and expect that the effort has to be made by both individuals; hence the term 'partnership', don't you think?

I don't stay in relations where my love and affection is not acknowledged or returned.I am not sure whether this is a Libra trait or the wisdom that I gained eventually, but I have no time or energy for silly mind games in my relationships.Either you are in it, or you are not.

Again I don't care whether we get married or not. Because I essentially believe that marriage is something that needs to happen between our minds and our souls and nothing stands a chance before this. So if two people cannot reconcile their differences between them even before their marriage, how on earth would this change the situation just by getting married? If anything it only complicates it further, because by then usually they end up having kids and all they do is hide their differences into their inner psyches and lead their own compartmentalized lives. I am sorry for being harsh towards married couple; please do not take any offence. I believe that marriage is a state of mind and nothing else. So I don't get all girly about marriage and stuff like that; probably this is due to the fact that I am a Virgo and also Uranus is in the 7th H. I am 75% of Miranda, 10% of Samantha, 15% Carrie and 5% of Charlotte from Sex and the City. You can imagine.

Do you look to a partner to teach you how to compromise, or to calm you down, someone gentle?

I believe that partnership is all about teaching and learning from one another. If I am not able to do even one of these two, I am out of it the next minute. adios amigos! (Virgo's theme)

Also do you want to be 1st in matters, for your ideas to be heard 1st, etc?

Not to be 1st per se; but I want to be heard. I need to assert myself from time to time just to adjust my own 'inner antenna' so to speak lol; not as any attempt to brag about myself, but it helps me so well in understanding my own inner psyche when I voice out my opinions and believes. I have a lot of appetite for deep rooted thinking and analysis. No wonder I can never make small talk. I suck at it.My inner voice immediately says "shut up!!!"

In general I am very reserved and a silent spectator in all these forums (Virgo Sun), but when I really have to speak out for some reason or the other, all the flood gates open up (Aries Asc). I want people to know me well enough so that they don't misinterpret my words and most importantly my intent. In the same way, I expect that same level of transparency from others, but I don't insist. I can smell shifty people from a distance.

And does the Aries part of you tend sometimes toward shyness/bashfulness?

Oh dear!! It is not just Aries. Both Aries and Virgo with all these contradictory traits are playing with my life like a football game. lol

This is s tricky thing to answer cos' I tend to contradict myself a lot in this case, but lemme give it a shot.

On one hand, I strongly hate to be the centre of attention (Virgo) and on the other hand, I want my voice and opinions to be heard (Aries Asc)

I think my familiarly with a person or a group is directly proportional to my ability to open up; The more I know them and can trust, the more I open up to people.

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But strangely enough this does not apply to forums like these. I am at home with strangers and no rules apply there.hahah

I am a Virgo with less familiarity and an Aries with more familiarity. Wow!! I just realized that only now as I am typing. You see, this is what I am talking about. It is confirmed, I am clinically crazy.

I have this personality like an onion skin. There are too many layers of my personality that people around me have no clue whatsoever (including myself); not to the extent that I am sharing with you all here.

I am rather reserved and discrete in my approach esp. in workplace. No one there knows that I have a freak/nut case living inside of me. For example, if they knew that I fancy aliens and other conspiracy theories, I'll be ostracized from my profession forever.lol

posted January 16, 2011 05:41 PM            

ETA,
Ok I see your above reply
Thanks!

ETA,
You know I was seeing Aqarius/Uranus in some of your attitudes and I wondered if that was in the mix somewhere, but your h7 Uranus I think plays a big part in your chart.

You know I'm bombarding you cos I've never known an Aries Asc and am clueless about them, if I knew one then I could pick them apart in person just from observation, trying to ferret out the Asc, but your sharing is a huge help.

OK so from you I'm taking it that Aries Asc wants to be heard, to think out loud, but I think it's the Virgo that would add in more detail to make sure they're not misunderstood. They want people who are frank and tell it like it is. They need to put their point across so that they don't get lost in the group, and they definitely do not like being misunderstood as it discounts anything new and important that they're adding to the conversation (to avoid feeling like their contributions are unimportant, that would make them feel small).
The bit about the Libra dsc is interesting, since you need that give and take, and that is one thing that Libra is about, moving backward and forward in an attempt to get the balance just right -- so from you it comes across that you put conscious energy toward that goal in relationships, so that is new for me. (im Aqua dsc so my goals are a lil different.)

I also have a problem mistaking Aries and Scorpio sometimes and this is a help. Because Scorpio is ego-based, but Aries is more simple than that (in a good way), I agree with you and talking about other Aries placements I know that they value honesty and plain speech highly.

I know a good # of Lunar Aries folks, and have dated a lot of Aries Suns, but the rising was just so hard to grasp!

posted January 16, 2011 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:

14 is definitely Virgo. Consciousness (spelled that wrong didn't I?) Anyway the point is that is most definitely a Virgo trait. They have a weird guilt complex.

The quality of both Aries and Virgo make you a very impatient person for different reasons. Aries- Because you want something to happen. You can't sit on your hands.
Virgo- Makes you impatient with sloppy thinking. That is something you cannot tolerate at all. Also when things don't happen they make you nervous and then you start cleaning

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posted January 16, 2011 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
@lindaGreg
what about the Libra/7th house associations, people that put planets in your 7th.
Do you look for a calm gentle partner, refined type of person?

ETA,
Ok I see your above reply
Thanks!

ETA,
You know I was seeing Aqarius/Uranus in some of your attitudes and I wondered if that was in the mix somewhere, but your h7 Uranus I think plays a big part in your chart.

You know I'm bombarding you cos I've never known an Aries Asc and am clueless about them, if I knew one then I could pick them apart in person just from observation, trying to ferret out the Asc, but your sharing is a huge help.

OK so from you I'm taking it that Aries Asc wants to be heard, to think out loud, but I think it's the Virgo that would add in more detail to make sure they're not misunderstood. They want people who are frank and tell it like it is. They need to put their point across so that they don't get lost in the group, and they definitely do not like being misunderstood as it discounts anything new and important that they're adding to the conversation (to avoid feeling like their contributions are unimportant, that would make them feel small).
The bit about the Libra dsc is interesting, since you need that give and take, and that is one thing that Libra is about, moving backward and forward in an attempt to get the balance just right -- so from you it comes across that you put conscious energy toward that goal in relationships, so that is new for me. (im Aqua dsc so my goals are a lil different.)

I also have a problem mistaking Aries and Scorpio sometimes and this is a help. Because Scorpio is ego-based, but Aries is more simple than that (in a good way), I agree with you and talking about other Aries placements I know that they value honesty and plain speech highly.

I know a good # of Lunar Aries folks, and have dated a lot of Aries Suns, but the rising was just so hard to grasp!

Thank you for your help, it's a lil more clear now

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Hi Lonake,

I am glad I am of some help to you. It is a pleasure. And I must also thank you for giving me an opportunity to help me take a head count of the number of lunatics currently living in my personality.

On that Aries Vs Sco note, you are right. People think Aries people are predominantly ego-centric (assuming because they are a 'fire' sign). It is a complete misunderstanding. Again I am not saying I can never be ego-centric; that would be silly. But my point is, it is not my personality's key theme.

I think metaphorically it is apt to equate 'fire' with 'passion', 'drive', 'courage', 'do or die attitude','straight shooters', 'spitting out the truth', 'tell it like it is', 'zero censorship of thoughts and feelings' etc

posted January 16, 2011 07:37 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Nose! Nose! Nose!
Roman nose could be aries asc theme!
Narrow,pointy chin,THIN lips =all this prominent in men especially!
Nose,eyes,lips features places more to the center of face.
Yes,libra asc,combative=argumentative!

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posted January 16, 2011 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by lindaGreg:
I don't know about the nose thing, but I do have a tapering and pointed chin with a slight dimple.

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posted January 16, 2011 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
U have moon on asc. U r not typical

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Interesting you said that. I am guessing here, but correct me if I am wrong, so am I right in saying that having moon in the first could result in some or all of the following aspects...

adds more feminineness to appearance?
makes them emotionally vulnerable?
attached to their mothers?

Although on a mental level, there is a predominant masculine aspect in my behavior and communication style.

For example, for anyone reading my messages above, my expressions may carry a lot passion but not necessary in a feminine sense. In other words, without my pictures and with a neutral username, I could easily pass for a male user. (Of course that Sex and the City comment is a giveaway)

posted January 17, 2011 04:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Yea I think Aries is also maligned, for example they're hugely romantic.
A lot of astro peeps don't mention this.
And they're also v.sensitive.
Seems counter-intuitive but IME there it is!

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Couldn't agree more. I can be a hopeless romantic, but after getting burnt in these situations, I have become very cautious and stopped wearing my heart on my sleeve.

I remember with my first boyfriend(for 10 years) I went up to him and told him, "hey listen, I think I like you. Since our exams are nearing, I don't wanna think about you until I finish those; so let me know if you are interested in may be dating for sometime after these exams and see how it goes but first let me know yay or nay". That was a calculated risk cos' I knew he liked me anyway but he did not have the guts to come up to me and say to me; so I took the lead.

Would you guys believe it, I never ever said "I love you" even once in all those 10 years. But I still loved him and he always knew it and never misunderstood me that way.To me actions always speak louder than words.

posted January 18, 2011 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
No, even without the pic and with a gender neutral username I'd still think you were female.

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posted January 18, 2011 10:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
I guess the main reason is because men aren't that desirious of others opinions...

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May be true, but isn't that silly of them?

posted January 19, 2011 12:08 AM            

It's not a bad thing to want others opinions..

I think the more input is to see the person interact with others, that way you can see how they act which is a lot of the asc, maybe something the person themselves wouldnt even realize.