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Lonake
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posted January 15, 2011 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the link to her chart on Astrotheme, no birth time.

-Libra Sun conj Pluto
-Gemini Moon (possibly conj Saturn)


yearbook photo & as she is now

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posted January 15, 2011 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without ur data,my first impression: saturn in libra.
Eyes&eyebrow definitely libran: appearing small;eybrows semi-arched and neat;not long,too,i noticed that libra asc doesn't have stressed eyebrows.
But her jaw line is too strong,wide forehead... If her saturn on asc,moon would take care of her body:feminine. but,her disposition... Not very gemini-like. But,maybe she is hiding behind her pin-up persona?
I read interview with her once... Sounds: such a lady...
U know who i am interested in? Rihanna. Aries or leo?

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posted January 15, 2011 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oor,we just put libra asc,and sun and pluto would do the trick. Pluto:her strong features;transfirmative urge;

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posted January 15, 2011 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see Saturn in her, too...
And you know I've noticed all 3 in Air tend to go for a darker look, something mysterious, so Libra is a good contender.

Rihanna has such a cuteness to her that is more than just Pisces, it's almost cherub-like.
You know I wanna say Libra for her.
Or just Air
She has something strong in Air, but all her chart has in Mercury in Aqua.
It could be Aquarius which puts Merc & Sun in 1st, Mercury for the youthful appearance.
What do you think?>

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posted January 15, 2011 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw Dita has Saturn in Gemini

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posted January 16, 2011 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I see Saturn in her, too...
And you know I've noticed all 3 in Air tend to go for a darker look, something mysterious, so Libra is a good contender.

Rihanna has such a cuteness to her that is more than just Pisces, it's almost cherub-like.
You know I wanna say Libra for her.
Or just Air
She has something strong in Air, but all her chart has in Mercury in Aqua.
It could be Aquarius which puts Merc & Sun in 1st, Mercury for the youthful appearance.
What do you think?>


First thought: Aries,with moon/venus conjunction in 1st H,not far away from asc,couple of degrees.
She has sag mars,but she isn't someone who has mars in 1st H but maybe 12th H? She has attitude issues and sudden outburst... She is not on fire(sexual innuendo aside) not energetic! I thought that for beyonce(late cancer or early leo,with mars in 1st)
Leo:eyes. If those eyes don't scream leo,i don't know what does. And leo/aries energy is very much akin,sag kinda stands apart.
I don't know whether she is tall(she has those good betty boop legs,so that can create illusion of height) but that could be strong leo/sag indicator.
Fire asc,i could bet on that.

But,i remembered now.. Meryl streep!! Dita! Nose,disposition! Could be early leo,like meryl! That would give her venus in 1st H=not looker,but strong impression of prettyness,lady-like,narcisstic...

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posted January 16, 2011 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
meryl streep young = young dita, for sure.
but her young eyes make me think virgo, the straight brow.

the venus conj R's moon could give libra/taurus look prominence, then add in the 1st house...

sudden outbursts she has Mars conj Uranus, yikes, no wonder she had that weird chris brown incident.

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posted January 16, 2011 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're saying Aries or Leo for R, then I'd say Aries, because Im Pisces (our suns conj) but I have Leo asc (early Leo), and she doesn't have the bone structure for it, or the gaze.

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posted January 16, 2011 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
meryl streep young = young dita, for sure.
but her young eyes make me think virgo, the straight brow.

the venus conj R's moon could give libra/taurus look prominence, then add in the 1st house...

sudden outbursts she has Mars conj Uranus, yikes, no wonder she had that weird chris brown incident.


Virgo asc:features would be less strong;
Virgo moon can be overshadowed by other inflences,like no other moon.
As for rihanna... Mars/uranus is something i assocciate with kinky sex life
When i heard of that incident,i firstly thought of pisces sun... She-putting up with much.
And that chris brown...u can see he has bas**rd asc

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posted January 16, 2011 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rihanna couldn't be Leo because she definitely has at least one 1st house placement and she has nothing in Gemini Cancer Leo Virgo Libra

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posted January 16, 2011 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Rihanna couldn't be Leo because she definitely has at least one 1st house placement and she has nothing in Gemini Cancer Leo Virgo Libra

Yes,she is a looker.
But it doesn't have to be asc. Could be mc.
Have we considered pisces asc? Sun in 1st H?

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posted January 16, 2011 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rihanna: I really think she looks like a Libra..
But I see heavy Air as my post above, so I considered Aqua Asc with Merc & Sun in 1st.

You think MC has influence on appearance?

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posted January 16, 2011 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to go with a Sagittarius ascendant (there's a dancing light in her eyes in both pictures, despite the difference in life eras), which would place her Midheaven in Libra, putting into focus her beautifully glamorous career.

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posted January 16, 2011 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She's huge on lingerie
Isn't that Venus too, Pluto Libra on MC?

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posted January 16, 2011 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Rihanna: I really think she looks like a Libra..
But I see heavy Air as my post above, so I considered Aqua Asc with Merc & Sun in 1st.

You think MC has influence on appearance?


Oh,yes. But exactly on mc. Degree allowed-so it could be decisive for looks. And it is quite often that mc planet sq asc,and sq is alwasy stronger than possible asc conjunction.
I started exploring that cuz my libra asc ruler is exactly on mc; i wanted to know what it means. I searched for long time for real life examples. Bit of celebrieties too... Gives other-worldiness. Ugly-duckling/beautiful swan theme.
Monica bellucci -8th H ruler,neptune on mc.
Naomi campbell-neptune mc. (yes,their professions are of neptune traits,too)


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posted January 16, 2011 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So not the MC sign itself alone, only if there are planets there?
For example a MC devoid of conjunctions, would that sign have anything to say on appearance in your studies?

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posted January 16, 2011 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I focused on venus/moon with occasional pluto/neptune examples. I did only women's chart.
There has to be planet on mc.
Although i think 'empty' mc would be significnt in synastry:another form that one is attracted to,in addition to asc,and personal planets.
Venus/moon on mc,as if touched by saturn:statuesque/distant/unapproachable.

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posted January 16, 2011 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think she has Virgo ASC. There is something about her gestures that just scream - Virgo! And Virgo ASC. can be very attractive... very fine features and good bone structure.

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posted January 17, 2011 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just saw scarlett johansson on tv,golden globe.
I am fascinated by her. Breaks mould,and so charming.
I looked up for her chart(astrotheme) : says sag asc,1st degree,with sun conjuncting asc,uranus and mercury in 1st H. Mercury makes sense...
Could it be??? Looks-wise?

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posted January 17, 2011 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plausible,
She's very radiant which is Leo rising (Sun/ASC)
But there's that masculinity to her which is the Sadge Sun, plus more I'm sure.

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posted January 17, 2011 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Plausible,
She's very radiant which is Leo rising (Sun/ASC)
But there's that masculinity to her which is the Sadge Sun, plus more I'm sure.

Yes... But her hourglass figure?? It is so genuine! True rerto shape(strong legs and arms as basis,not just breasts and bottom)
So angular and out of proportions face... Btw,don't know have u seen it but january jones' (cappy sun,scorpio moon) dress... Daaaaamn!! Fantastic!

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posted January 17, 2011 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The masculinity is in her manner, it's not feminine, but her looks are, so she has a lot of contrast.
Lemme check out January gurl.

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posted January 17, 2011 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking of another Cap/Scorpio, Kate Moss.
It's not my style as its not flattering on her waist (to create hips), but there's drama in the front, and she kept most everything else simple so it really stood out. I wouldn't have done the hair that way, but it is simple and sexy which is perfect for her Sun/Moon.
Kate Moss is Venus Aqua which has helped her immensely.

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posted January 17, 2011 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ay, January could have Sagittarius Moon, it's @ 26 Scorp @ noon..

Her Venus is in Capricorn, so she'll play it safe.

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posted January 17, 2011 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I'm thinking of another Cap/Scorpio, Kate Moss.
It's not my style as its not flattering on her waist (to create hips), but there's drama in the front, and she kept most everything else simple so it really stood out. I wouldn't have done the hair that way, but it is simple and sexy which is perfect for her Sun/Moon.
Kate Moss is Venus Aqua which has helped her immensely.

Kate Moss' asc... Sweet obssesion of mine
Although her scorpio moon is so striking. All that passionate relationships.
Kate before heroin chic era,glorious beginnings,had very feminine figure.

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