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TexasLro
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posted January 21, 2011 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexasLro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 21, 2011 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and you're "happily" married?
sounds like the scorpio man has arrived in your life to make you look more deeply at things. we need charts to see what's going on with the astrology

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posted January 21, 2011 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're drawn in and attracted because the games a not-really-available Scorpio plays can be irresistible to a bored Leo.

Think about a real cat: if you put a string right into her paws, it's too easy, so she won't enjoy playing with it. If you hold it too far out of reach, it seems like too much work to catch it so she won't chase after it. Hold the string JUST OUT OF REACH and it drives the kitty crazy! Leo women are natural hunters, like lionesses. We love a challenge.

I don't know what Scorpio men are up to! But I do know some of them will (consciously or unconsciously) play with a woman they never plan to actually make out with for YEARS. This works on Leos, because Leos like Big Romantic Stories ending in victory for the Leo, and they see the Scorpio game as something that will end with big ego gratification (for the Leo)...that is NOT how it ends though. Part of the Scorpio game is to lure you over, and then pretend it was all you.

Because Leos are excitement-loving, being faithful and loyal to our long-term partners is a CHOICE we have to make every day. It doesn't just come naturally. We have to choose loyalty, or if the relationship is broken/wrong, choose to leave it kindly and respectfully, rather than meet emotional needs by being (mentally, physically, or emotionally) unfaithful. As for this Scorpio, if you were single, he probably would not be a good actual romantic prospect--Leo-Scorpio is tough, and actually fiery airy signs are better at meeting Leo needs in real life. A flirty game like this with an Aries ends in hot sex and the Aries telling you you're beautiful. A flirty game like this with a Scorpio ends with him waiting until he has you totally hooked, then pulling away and rejecting you, making you wonder if you were delusional and you misread all his come-ons.

Scorp men can seem like they want a fiery woman, in those early push me-pull you mixed signal flirting stages. But they really want a watery or earthy woman. Not that Leo-Scorpio can't work, it's just tough on both.

It is not easy. But this attraction is a sign that you are looking for passion, excitement, fun, drama, and validation that you are sexy. It's a good moment to give yourself those things. Things that work for Leos are:
-getting very fit...burns off some of that intense energy
-doing real theater
-working as a volunteer, leading people in doing creative things
-treating yourself to a lavish night out or something you've been wanting

It's also an important nudge from the universe to look at your marriage. Have you outgrown it? If not, it's a good time to add some Leo-pleasing things to your life.

You might not want to admit that you're bored, because the fantasy of Overpowering Passion that is Fated and you Can't Help It with some guy is waaay more appealing to a Leo than understanding that you need a little drama in your life, and you're hanging it on the most promising thing around. But it's actually a great opportunity for real Leo growth, for learning to be more creative and more of a star in your life, rather than looking outside yourself for those thrills.

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posted January 21, 2011 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia23:

Amazing write up - very compassionate, well written, and full of truth.

Kindest regards,

Isolaede

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posted January 21, 2011 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunagoatlion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent advice, Lucia23! That is spot on!

TexasLRo, Scorpios are extremely magnetic and love to "collect" people for later use. If you subtly send him the message that you will not be collected, you may (1) drive him crazy to the point that he becomes obsessive about getting your attention back, or (2) he will lose interest in you and focus that beautifully intense Scorpio gaze on someone else, perhaps back on wifey. Enjoy the fun attention of a Scorpio. They are penetratingly intense (in a fantastic way)!

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posted January 21, 2011 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lunagoatlion:
Excellent advice, Lucia23! That is spot on!

TexasLRo, Scorpios are extremely magnetic and love to "collect" people for later use. If you subtly send him the message that you will not be collected, you may (1) drive him crazy to the point that he becomes obsessive about getting your attention back, or (2) he will lose interest in you and focus that beautifully intense Scorpio gaze on someone else, perhaps back on wifey. Enjoy the fun attention of a Scorpio. They are penetratingly intense (in a fantastic way)!


Collecting people is the perfect term for it. They love knowing they still "got it" and have backup options - it's entirely ego driven, but done it the most artistically subtle way. I'll never forget my Scorpio friend saying that he was "planting seeds" whenever he did that.

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posted January 21, 2011 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gal,and i like to collect
Also moon,so no scorpio has ever beaten me in being unavailable game
I have been involved with scorpio sun boy. We had sextiles and squares,but no sun sq sun by aspect.
It is so fascinating to see this combo working. They look great. Charming. Interesting.
But,for leo's soul,scorpio's claws can be bot too much. Leo must be with some water... Or scorpio with some air.

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posted January 21, 2011 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dysf..

Please tell me where you meet your scorpio's!
You made me want to put an add in the paper " Lioness Looking for HOT Scorpio"

IDK what it is with me, but Scorpio men just dont do it for me.. I have male Scorpio friends, I dont find an attraction to them at all..
I DID date one Scorpio.. He did chase me for a bit, but I got bored with him really fast.. I found him blahhhhhh... I did like talking to him though we had some great conversations..

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posted January 21, 2011 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexasLro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
and you're "happily" married?
sounds like the scorpio man has arrived in your life to make you look more deeply at things. we need charts to see what's going on with the astrology

My op has been edited with our charts

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posted January 22, 2011 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexasLro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia, you're absolutely right. I need to focus more on my marriage and the need for drama on theatre. I haven't been involved in acting in years but I know I can pick it up again very easily.

Mr. Scorpio is very addicting. He's like a drug I crave and even just to see him is good, to speak with him for a few minutes is even better. To have his total attention for however long is bliss. I know this is dangerous territory. It's all mind games and has me absolutely entranced.

I feel if I can get him to reveal if he does have feelings for me or at the least is attracted to me, I can move on with my life. I don't know why knowing how he feels is so important to me. How can I help him feel more comfortable around me so he eventually will tell me something, if such a thing is even possible? I can't pursue anything physical with him, even though just being around him has an incredible effect on me, like my libido is trying to push me onto him. I have a feeling if it did happen, it would be amazing, like nothing I've ever experienced. And of course that can't happen.

At the same time, if I were to confront him about what I feel just to say "You're sending me the wrong signals making me fall for you, you need to stop", I'm afraid he'll get the head pastor involved since I work for the church and it will turn into a huge messy scandal resulting in the loss of my job, the respect of most of the church members, and possibly the loss of my marriage...all because I'm experiencing a simple human emotion I can't handle.

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posted January 22, 2011 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TexasLro:
I feel if I can get him to reveal if he does have feelings for me or at the least is attracted to me, I can move on with my life. I don't know why knowing how he feels is so important to me. How can I help him feel more comfortable around me so he eventually will tell me something, if such a thing is even possible?

TexasLro,
I totally hear you on this point, just know with that much water in his chart, especially a Cancer Moon, getting him to reveal anything will be like pulling teeth or moving mountains. He'll tell you when he's good and ready if your feelings were reciprocated, and by then it may be years after the fact. My Leo Moon&Venus hears your Leo stellium (more than three planets in a sign), and there is nothing more cleansing that getting that confirmation about affection and it does help you move on, but distracting yourself in the meantime keeps the imspulses in check. I have someone similar in my life, a close friend, and I almost threw away a nearly five-year serious relationship on the feelings stirred up when I found out he had had a reciprocal thing for me, six years after the fact. Now granted he was immature at the time, and even now, he's got soo much growing up to do, but in the end, the confirmation just let me know I have always been loved deeply, and for this Leo Moon, that is enough.

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posted January 22, 2011 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello TexasLro! Welcome to LL

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Lucia23
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posted January 22, 2011 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I feel if I can get him to reveal if he does have feelings for me or at the least is attracted to me, I can move on with my life. I don't know why knowing how he feels is so important to me.

It's because that would be winning the game, conquering your prey.

I hope you don't get badly hurt and waste a lot of time and energy on this that ought to go into your own life. Because, with your chart, you really think you will win. That you can obsess about this on internet forums to learn how to "make him more comfortable" to "get him" to reveal his feelings, so your itchy ego can get a nice big scratch and you can move on.

What is way, way, way likelier to happen is that he will not only never tell you he's interested...but nine or ten months down the road, you'll actually just be pleading with the universe for him to tell you he's NOT interested, so that you can just move on. You'll be frustrated as hell because you'll "know" he's interested--it's that string he's dangling just out of reach. And it is likely he will NEVER either tell you that he is attracted OR that he isn't, and you'll have blown a lot of powerful, important creative energy doing this with him.

Probably nothing will get you to drop it, unless he stops dangling with the string. Which is too bad. I wish you could just assume he's attracted and vibing you, but you're both married, and just set a boundary and not do that with him anymore. Without ever catching his stupid string. It's just string.

The obsession/wasted energy posting on astrology sites/looking forward to seeing him like a 12-year-old with her first crush is actually, I think, very destructive. because that energy belongs other places.

Also--a friend went through an experience similar to this, and FINALLY hooked up with the guy, and she "knew" the sex would be mind-blowing because their chemistry was through the roof, and in the past, every guy she'd had intense chemistry like that with, the sex was mind-blowing. (Me too! in my case, still true but I've never hooked up with a Scorpio, the one I got all hooked by and I were never together.) But when they finally got together, the sex was terrible! The worst ever. She absolutely could not believe it. She gave it six or seven tries even though it was awful. Before that, we both believed that that kind of attraction means real chemistry. But now I know it can happen the other way. (He was single, she was in another relationship.)

At least consider just telling yourself, "This guy is sex-vibing me. He might admit it, or never admit it because he is a Scorpio--either way, I am DECIDING to use my arousal as a red flag that my sex life with my husband isn't what it needs to be, that I shouldn't have given up acting, that I am not going out on the town and having a great time enough, and that I've been craving proof I'm desired." Consider deciding not to play with the string! You think you will catch the string because it is soooo close...but a Scorpion's time scale is not compatible with a Lion's! He could play this game for years and years and YEARS, giving you hope that he's close to confessing what's behind all those stormy looks, then never giving you what you want or need. You run the risk of being hurt or run down by the end of that.

And, keep in mind he does not have the motivation in this that a fire sign would--that you do. You want the ego gratification of him admitting he wants you, and (if you could without cheating) the mind-blowing sex that seems promised. And like I said, if some Aries was acting like this, the end of the story would be the Aries admitting he felt an unparalleled pasesion for you. Because what he would want was also passion, excitement, maybe hot sex. The Scorpio does not want that, or have that motivation! The game he's playing now is it's own reward for him!! It is not buildup to a thrilling confession, they way it would be for a fire sign!

Sorry to rant. But I hope you will be brave and admit what you really need, instead of sublimating it into this. And I think the reason you picked this Scorpio in a 33-year marriage with mixed signals is that, secretly and unconsciously, you know it WON'T come to a head. He won't say, "I'm so attracted to you and want you so much and I think I love you, but we can't do anything because we're married" the way a Leo would. So you can chase that string for months and months and months and months, and obsess in private, and look forward to seeing him, INSTEAD Of addressing what needs to be addressed in your life.

On the off-chance I'm wrong, and in this case you catch the string and get the confession and don't waste months or years of time and energy waiting for it...well, then you've got dead string. And you're left looking for a new place to sublimate your unexpressed passions.

It is not worth the risk. And, it's highly likely that this married guy eyeing up women in church would not actually be a source of the mind-blowing never-had-it-before sex you imagine. Looking at your chart, you're likelier to have that kind of earth-shatteringness with a more fiery or airy guy. What he's provided already--seeming like a good person (Scorpios in humanitarian settings are so alluring, they seem so noble, and sometimes they really are!), smoldering looks, a knee-weakening vibe, and the sense that you're the sexiest woman he's ever seen and he has Deep Intense Feelings? That's probably the best and most you'll ever get from him. He probably won't EVER deliver on the promise of any of that, or EVER drop the string. You're likely to have to decide to give up, which no Leo ever wants to do.

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posted January 22, 2011 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be less rant-y about it: You're getting off on this because you believe it will lead to gratification. He has a masochistic streak that you do not, and he is getting off on this because he believes it WON'T lead to gratification.

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posted January 22, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Lucia..

As a Leo (at 7,5*) with Moon in Scorp and (so) also a lot of experience with Scorpio (men) I can confirm it!
I read once that our Moon sign plays a more prominent role later in life .. yes yes

It's really beautiful how you get to the heart of the matter when it comes to these two signs... !

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posted January 22, 2011 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunagoatlion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once again, Lucia, you are right on! I have a Scorpio male friend who does this to women on purpose because his gaze drives them crazy and makes them feel so desired. They go crazy over him and he just loves playing that game. He always tries to play it with me, but I'm a Cancer and can match his intensity with my own focused intuition and he hates that I'm totally unfazed by his mojo. I see it, acknowledge it, and move on without my emotional wall being penetrated. Those games only work on other elements, but other water signs will make Scorpios feel too much in return and Scorpios don't like emotional intrusion (they like to intrude).

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posted January 22, 2011 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You said he "seems nice, even a little too nice" and I immediately thought of a venus sign influence and what do ya know? He has his Mars in venus-ruled Taurus.

Mars in Taurus often projects a laid-back, non hovering , cool, calm collected persona.

He, however, in my opinion is still very much a Scorpion. If you spend more hours with him, you'll find this out, no matter how "sweet" and enduring his initial projection is.

I think it could be the combination of his venus ruled Taurus Mars sign and his Cancer Moon that make him appear very attractive to you. One sign is gentle(Cancer Moon) whilst the other is charming (Taurus Mars)

You have a Libra moon-that can make you respond very positively to gentleness and friendliness. You also have your Mars in Gemini; suggesting to me that you project yourself as curious, friendly and entertaining which is also a big draw-card for him.

I think you should play it cool and let him come to you. He may want some sort of stable rapport first before exploring anything he feels for you.

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posted September 11, 2016 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyful1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Lucia, I just read this post of yours and I has some amazing insights. Thank you I ma% not be in this exact situation however the Leo description you wrote nailed me. It's spot on. I hope the Scorpio dynamic works for him and I , but you are right with the different ways I need to find the happiness and meet my own needs. Thanks soooo much ❤️

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
You're drawn in and attracted because the games a not-really-available Scorpio plays can be irresistible to a bored Leo.

Think about a real cat: if you put a string right into her paws, it's too easy, so she won't enjoy playing with it. If you hold it too far out of reach, it seems like too much work to catch it so she won't chase after it. Hold the string JUST OUT OF REACH and it drives the kitty crazy! Leo women are natural hunters, like lionesses. We love a challenge.

I don't know what Scorpio men are up to! But I do know some of them will (consciously or unconsciously) play with a woman they never plan to actually make out with for YEARS. This works on Leos, because Leos like Big Romantic Stories ending in victory for the Leo, and they see the Scorpio game as something that will end with big ego gratification (for the Leo)...that is NOT how it ends though. Part of the Scorpio game is to lure you over, and then pretend it was all you.

Because Leos are excitement-loving, being faithful and loyal to our long-term partners is a CHOICE we have to make every day. It doesn't just come naturally. We have to choose loyalty, or if the relationship is broken/wrong, choose to leave it kindly and respectfully, rather than meet emotional needs by being (mentally, physically, or emotionally) unfaithful. As for this Scorpio, if you were single, he probably would not be a good actual romantic prospect--Leo-Scorpio is tough, and actually fiery airy signs are better at meeting Leo needs in real life. A flirty game like this with an Aries ends in hot sex and the Aries telling you you're beautiful. A flirty game like this with a Scorpio ends with him waiting until he has you totally hooked, then pulling away and rejecting you, making you wonder if you were delusional and you misread all his come-ons.

Scorp men can seem like they want a fiery woman, in those early push me-pull you mixed signal flirting stages. But they really want a watery or earthy woman. Not that Leo-Scorpio can't work, it's just tough on both.

It is not easy. But this attraction is a sign that you are looking for passion, excitement, fun, drama, and validation that you are sexy. It's a good moment to give yourself those things. Things that work for Leos are:
-getting very fit...burns off some of that intense energy
-doing real theater
-working as a volunteer, leading people in doing creative things
-treating yourself to a lavish night out or something you've been wanting

It's also an important nudge from the universe to look at your marriage. Have you outgrown it? If not, it's a good time to add some Leo-pleasing things to your life.

You might not want to admit that you're bored, because the fantasy of Overpowering Passion that is Fated and you Can't Help It with some guy is waaay more appealing to a Leo than understanding that you need a little drama in your life, and you're hanging it on the most promising thing around. But it's actually a great opportunity for real Leo growth, for learning to be more creative and more of a star in your life, rather than looking outside yourself for those thrills.


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posted September 11, 2016 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you wanna know how a man feels about you, look at what he does vs what he says. They should line up but not always. A guy may tell you you are beautiful does he show you that yoy are beautiful? A guy that wants you or thinks of you will show you those things, he will find out what you like and present those things to you. You will meet family and friends in his life, he will take you out everywhere and communicate. He will not act like you are nothing to him and willing to show that to the world. Actually you will be aprart of his world and vice versa. If you see anything less just walk away, he just wants to play and does not care. Seen it way too many times with females and dudes. Plus the dide will try yo make you think you have the issue, you don't some guys just don't know how to do self analysis as to what's going on with them.

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posted September 11, 2016 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This guy I know who is a total playboy but love him told me that if I wanted to know how a guy felt let him know that you are having issues and need a place to stay. Me being logical ofcoarse was like naaa, the guy in question wouldn't go fo that because things were too soon for that kind of thinking but I did do that with my ex husband. I wasn't tryi g to see if he cared, I was just being honest that I was going to move back to my hometown were I was originally from and he proposed that day. Didn't qork out ofcorase but at the time I thought well why not, if it don't aork out it just doesn't but technically he was right. Funny how that works. I guess when things aresupose to be thwy will happen but if he cared, he don't want to lose you.

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