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Geri
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posted January 23, 2011 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have posted here before about a Cancer guy I really like at work and I have got some great insights and very thoughtful answers so I decided to share some situation happened recently as I am not sure does that mean something or it is just my over emotionality as I have feelings for him.

That Cancer guy I think is a nice guy but he changes his mood so often, in fact I think he has mood swings all the time. He is kind and helpful to me usually but if he is in a bad mood he could be harsh to people. He could be really sweet and kind as well when he is in a good mood and then I think he is amazing. I was shy when I started to like him but as it's been eight months I talk to him now and I always ask him some work related questions, sometimes he jokes a little with me, other times I joke a little back with him and that makes me happy. I pay more attention to him every time I am at work and I think he knows I like him.

I am a Taurus and I am over emotional. I had some very painful experience in the past with a Scorpio guy friend of me and I am so scared that would repeat with that Cancer guy.

I felt so hurt and I cried after I left work today. He was buying something from where we work and I offered to him to serve him so that he won't wait on the long queues. He said that is alright and he is fine but I insisted so he agreed. My hands were trembling and I felt so scared of his rejection me to do so so that's why I insisted and he agreed but it looked like he he agreed just because I offered a couple of times. Anyway that was alright but I felt so much like it is so obvious I like him. Later one of our colleagues was helping me as I needed her to do some things and someone asked her to do something else so she directed herself to that Cancer guy twice asking him to come and replace her and help me but he refused to her both times and he found another person to come. I felt really hurt as I felt he probably does not want to help as he doesn't want to work with me or something or he doesn't like me I don't know. And I have tried to be nice to him earlier and offered my help and he didn't return it. But in contrast to him, even in a bad mood I continued to smile and to do my job and as soon as I left I cried. Earlier he refused to help some other girl as I guess he was busy with other things.

Yesterday he was in a bad mood too and I thought to make a little joke telling him I hope he had some break off my questions as I was away for a week and he said he missed my questions and we talked a little but that was nice.

Today I felt so humiliated and I feel like I do not know how I am going to deal with him, I would be scared to ask him things now as I wouldn't want to be refused. Analysing it now, I do not think that was intentional but my feelings are so strong and I have investigated in him so much time and feelings and I do not want to think now I have to back off and forget about it all. I still hope to become friends but I am not sure weather it would be possible as we are so much different people and we do not have anything in common.

Thanks for listening and thanks for the attention.

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lalalinda
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posted January 24, 2011 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer and Taurus are usually a good match,
the thing to remember is Cancer's emotions fluctuate according to their moods.

Just take it in stride.

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coconutcancermoon
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posted January 24, 2011 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coconutcancermoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like he isn't interested and you may be making him feel uncomfortable.

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Doux Rêve
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posted January 24, 2011 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Geri! I'm gald to see you here again, but not so glad about what you are saying Gosh.. I feel your pain. I'm in the exact same situation. Cancer guy, horrible mood swings, I never know where he is standing. I try to be as nice as possible, I pay attention to him, but he is often aggressive and acts like he is annoyed. It hurts me SO much, too. *sigh*.. It drives me crazy. I HATE their mood swings. I don't know if I could bear that for ever. One day they are like the sweetest person alive, and the next they are plain mean. Ugh.


If you want to talk with me Geri, I can give you my email adress.


I'm sending love to you. Be strong.

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maira
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posted January 24, 2011 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geri, as an Aries who spent three years in love with a Cancer, I'd say to give him a taste of his own medicine. My cancer and I never made it, but my guess is because I was always so accommodating and nice. I think they like someone who can hold his own, not give in to their moods and emotional blackmails. "My" cancer started a relationship with a Sag girl, who gave him the cold shoulder, probably after one of his crazy moods - he pursued her relentlessly, after all they are cardinal signs. So my guess is to call him on his BS every time. Hope this helps

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Geri
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posted January 24, 2011 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Doux Rêve, I am so glad to hear from you too!!! I feel the same way as you do, we both should try to show in a delicate way those Cancer boys that it is not fair their mood swings to influences everyone around and make people suffer. I am also sorry to hear your guy is giving you hard time sometimes, you are so right they can be so sweet and kind and cute and so harsh and so sharp in their behaviour.

And of course I want us to exchange e-mails or even Facebook, if you like. I can show you some pictures too hehe

I am glad we are friends, you are a nice girl and we can talk more about astrology and Cancer boys hehe.

Have a nice evening. Lots of love.

And thanks for the replies lalalinda coconutcancermoon and maira.

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swirl-kitt
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posted January 24, 2011 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so sorry Geri that you felt humiliated


I think you should just ignore him as long as he ignores you !

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coconutcancermoon
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posted January 24, 2011 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coconutcancermoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went back to read my comment and realize that it may have sounded a bit harsh, but that is how I feel and I don't like to sugarcoat

But, giving him a taste of his own medicine sounds good also

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Lucia23
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posted January 24, 2011 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geri, it sounds like because you've been hurt in the past (Scorpio friend, and maybe other times too), you are obsessing over a guy you don't have a real relationship with--love, touching, having dinner together--instead of saving your energy for someone who mutually wants to get to know you and be intimate emotionally, intellectually, physically, and spiritually. And spend real time together.

I don't think showing Facebook pictures of this guy to people you meet on the internet, or going home weeping and humiliated because of some subtle thing you imagine is a slight, is very healthy. it's obsessive, and I have noticed that those kinds of activities seem to take people further away from finding real love. Instead of showing his facebook pictures to online friends, why not ask your real-life friends to introduce you to cute, available guys in real life who they think you might like? Sounds like time to start dating.

Don't waste time obsessing about a guy who is not asking you out and making a real effort to get to know you. The fact that you are colleagues may be part of the problem. Better to be with someone you don't work with. This one is causing you more sadness than happiness.

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coconutcancermoon
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posted January 24, 2011 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coconutcancermoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Pixienoire
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posted January 24, 2011 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pixienoire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally don't put a whole lot of stock into sun sign compatibility. I find that the aspects, and planets in the signs and houses in the chart have a more telling story than the simple sun sign does.

I am a Taurus, and I just cannot get along with Cancer at all. In my experience with a Cancer, I found him to be very moody to the point where it was annoying. I think that the Cancer male can be easily compared to a woman suffering PMS. I just cannot tolerate the constant mood swings and constant complaining about everything. I just felt as though nothing I did was ever good enough. The mood swings were beyond harsh, and downright mean. He literally made me feel like crap. Now, Sagittarius and I get along great. But perhaps it has something to do with my natal chart being very fire heavy.

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Geri
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posted January 24, 2011 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
swirl-kitt thanks for your advice, I do not have any other choice I guess if he ignores me, I would have to not pay attention to him too, I guess.

coconutcancermoon everyone here has right to expose their own way of seeing the things and being harsh or not it is your right to say anything you feel like in a relation to what you read, so I appreciate your time, attention and opinion.

Lucia23 Thanks for your opinion, maybe you are right and I am over analysing and so much into my own interpretations of all this. Although I wouldn't call it an obsession, maybe that is all due to the fact that I have fear of commitment and for me that is the easy way to like someone who possibly might not feel the same and going on that route instead of really dating and connecting with someone because I am so scared not to be with the wrong person or not to be with someone who likes me and I agreed to be with him instead of me choosing the guy I like. It is really difficult to make things be mutual, usually the guys who asked me out I didn't feel the same and the guys I like in some way or another didn't see me in that perspective. About sharing things on the Internet with friends I have met online, I do not see anything wrong in that as long as I trust the person and me and Doux Rêve have been friends on here and shared a lot of insights on astrological things and emotional behaviour and I do not think that the honest and nice people whom I meet online are less important than the people I meet in my real life. But anyway I guess everyone has their own visions on that and own ways of seeing things and I thank you for reading my post and giving your opinion as it is important for me to see different angels no matter I agree with all or not, it is useful to give me many sided perspective what I find useful.

Pixienoire Yes I guess it is difficult to be with someone who is harsh and rude when you are nice and kind. Honestly I do not know anything about Cancer men so well because I didn't know one up to the when I have met that guy I like. I still think me Taurus and Cancer could be a good match because my ascendant and moon are both Libra and my mid-heaven is in Cancer so I hope there is a chance for friendship but I do not know. It is really painful to receive harsh behaviour when you are trying to be nice. I would probably try to do as he does and see what would come out of it but anyway I wouldn't want to hurt him in the way I felt hurt because it is not fair to perform emotional harm no matter you've been hurt on not.

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coconutcancermoon
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posted January 25, 2011 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coconutcancermoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geri, you are a love bug

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Geri
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posted January 25, 2011 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks coconutcancermoon and you are a


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annaf
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posted January 25, 2011 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia,

I have sat up and taken notice of your posts a number of times. It's always very good advice you are giving, it's mature, balanced advice and I couldn't agree with you more. A few years ago, when I was younger and a lot less experienced, I probably would have desperately needed someone like you talking sense into me. Trouble is, I most definitely would have more resented than appreciated your honest words back then ;-) So it's funny how one's perspective changes over the years in these things: When it would be useful, you are not ready to take it on board because understandably you need to make your own experiences. Hence the value of such advice is only visible in hindsight and then of course you don't really need it anymore. If that makes sense. Anyway, really a chicken and egg situation.


Geri,

I'm not sure whether you mentioned your age anywhere because I can't help but get the impression of someone who is still very very young and who is suffering so much over s.o. else's small actions that were most likely never even directed against them personally. I don't believe in pure sun sign astrology at all, but even if I did and thought moodiness was a very cancerian trait, I honestly can't detect any of it in the example you are giving. As in, one day he is nice to you and then the next he isn't. You say he is mostly very helpful when you ask him for help and in this particular case he rejected the other person's request to fill in and work with you. But he also rejected to work with someone else... So objectively speaking, based purely on the facts, the rejection has more to do either with the person asking him or that he was generally tired, unwilling to do extra work. So I doubt this was a rejection to work with you personally. As I mentioned on your other post, we are not there with you in the situation and therefore we don't have the whole facts. However, based on the information you are sharing with us, I must admit, I would be seriously surprised if he considered you anything more than a colleague. A colleague he has fun with and helps out when the time is right, but who may be less on his radar, when there are other overriding factors (stress at work, personal problems etc.etc.). This is quite normal for typical colleague relationships and a cordial work environment. If he considered you anything more (either as a friend or romantic interest), he would actively make an effort to spend more time with you or at least passively use opportunities as the opportunity to work with you. I think Lucia's advice is really fantastic and if at all possible try to distract yourself with other social activities. It will have the added bonus that it will make you think less about him and this in turn will make you less inhibited when you actually do interact with him.

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annaf
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posted January 25, 2011 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lucia23
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posted January 25, 2011 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Annaf, thank you for your words, they're giving me some really good things to think about.

I wish I could offer good advice about issues like this! I can't! The advice I badly, badly want to be able to give is "Here's what to do to get exactly what you want!" And I can't figure that out.

I don't want to give or get advice that's like, "Since you can't have what you want, here's what to do instead"...but I don't know how to help anyone get what they really want romantically...so the best I can do is offer an alternate perspective (or several alternate perspectives) that will float around in someone's head, hopefully leading them to a breakthrough. I am also hoping that someone or something will come along (or just a bolt of lightning/inspiration) and give me a breakthrough in my own life.

I think both the internet and astrology are potentially un-helpful, pulling people more into fantasy and obsession and farther away from actually connecting to and communicating with the object of their obsession. I understand why people do it, and why it feels like it's helping, but I think in the long run it doesn't help.

It's especially hard in a mixed-signals situation where you worry that maybe the person is interested in you but scared or shy, and that if you make a wrong move you'll ruin things. If someone's interest really was a fixed, immovable thing, it wouldn't be so rough to risk rejection--presumably, that person could let you know "yes" or "no." And "no" wouldn't be so bad--at least one of two people would be happy, then! But we are taught (with great accuracy in many cases, I think) that if we "play it right" we will attract someone and make him want to make a move. So it's a trap where it gets hard to take action, and it feels like all you can do is spend months trying to decipher someone's signals, when obviously that energy would be better spent on something more wonderful and life-affirming. But you don't want to quit, because you do want something with that person. And then astrology, misused, nourishes the obsessive part--"oh, he's acting like this because he's a Scorpio and when Scorpios really want you, they pull away" (or whatever).

I want something that will help with this problem, not just for me and case-by-case, but in general. Something people could actually DO, not just wait for while focusing on other things or other people.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that I hate some of my advice!! But it's part of an ongoing journey to find something truly helpful.

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Geri
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posted January 25, 2011 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello annaf and Lucia23.

To answer your question annaf, I am not really young, I am 27 years old. I am not really experienced in relationships, in my life it happened that I had some bad experiences which put me off things that might scare or put pressure over me. There are guys who asked me out but because they were really showing they like me and they are so much into me, that made me scared and I run away as them being active made me like I do not know if I feel the same.
I liked one Scorpio guy in the past who was really passive and not doing anything, we had a friendship but sadly it end up all badly, although I can't say it was his fault, as I had fault in it all as well. I am sure that Cancer guy didn't want or intend to hurt me, and maybe it wasn't his mood neither as you say, it is probably my strong feelings to him that bend things through my emotional perspective but that I something I can not help. On some unconscious level maybe I am looking for that indirect rejection or looking for signs he is not interested in me at all, so after feeling hurt to try to step out of it and move on. Although I really wish I could find out if he knows I like him, what does he thinks about that or does he believe we could get to know each other more but I am so not confident and so scared going on the route to find out.

I definitely agree that Lucia23 advices are really mature and really of deep understanding about life and the relations between people. It is exactly what you said Lucia23 I have believed and still do that if I "play it right" I "will attract someone and make him want to make a move" but that might be really delusional and unrealistic and I "don't want to quit, because" I "do want something with that person" sadly. Although I do not want to scare him off me or to make him feel uncomfortable. I appreciate your advices, I wish I could just try not to think about him and meet other guys and spend that energy on someone who at least feels the same towards me. It is all confusing at the moment but the advice is healthy and I should probably back off and be as annaf says a colleague and remain a polite colleague, I don't know and I wish I could figure that out less painfully.

And once again thank you for analysing it from many and different angles for me annaf and Lucia23, I can sense in your words a genuine desire to help out and I do appreciate it a lot, even it is not exactly what I want to hear, it sound like something I should try to consider.

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Doux Rêve
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posted January 25, 2011 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geri darling, I feel so sorry for you.
I know how painful it is to actually try to move on.
You've been into this guy for quite a long time now.. Letting go may not be easy. But you are very aware of things, you are a smart young woman, and that is a great thing. You can recognise your downfalls, and thus you can, and should, try to work them out. You say you are afraid of commitment. I think you are afraid of intimacy, maybe because you are not self-confident enough and have a low self-esteem. I think you need to find happiness in yourself first, before trying to find it in someone else. You need to love yourself more, to like yourself, to accept yourself. You need to know your own value. I am sure you are a wonderful girl, kind soul and warm heart. You need to know you are beautiful and you deserve love. Like everyone else does. And you can find love anywhere. It's in YOU and in everything around you.

My advice to you, is focus on yourself first. First and foremost, without taking into account men. What do YOU like to do? Make yourself look pretty, just for yourself. Go out, just to be good on your own. Don't dramatise your feelings, they are only human. Step back from all your worries and concern for a while. Learn to love yourself genuinely and live for yourself. As things will gradually become better, open up to the world. Look around. Open your heart. Do not be afraid. You are strong, and beautiful. Nothing can scare you. All right? Everything will be fine. I promise.

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I hope to hear from you soon.
Love love love to you.


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