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Topic: Transiting Pluto conjunct Moon/Venus = when you meet your Twin flame?
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JohnFKennedy
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posted January 28, 2011 01:56 PM
  
I recall reading a post a while back (Lord only knows what thread it was in) in which IQ said that if transiting Pluto is in the middle of both a man's Venus and Moon in his natal chart, then that's the period when he'll meet someone who is either his twin flame or some variation of a soul mate. Does anyone have any experience with this - or this transit in general and how it effected your love life? Care to divulge a little?  IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted January 28, 2011 01:58 PM
That only applies to men?What about women? What would be the signifier? IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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posted January 28, 2011 02:03 PM
I recall IQ only referencing men, although I'm going to take a stab in the dark and assume that maybe Saturn and Mars would represent men in a woman's natal chart? That is to say if transiting Pluto is also the culprit in a woman's chart, as well.. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted January 28, 2011 02:08 PM
Well when I first starting talking to Pisces (not to say we are soul mates, but I feel like we are, not that he agrees..lol) Was in Oct09 Pluto was at 0Cap His Venus/Moon Midpoint is at 24Sag
Moon in Sag.. Venus in Cap Tranist Pluto opps my Venus.. At 2Can
Conjunct my Jupiter.. =========
Hey his Venus/Moon MP conjuncts my MC and opps my Saturn...
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JohnFKennedy
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posted January 28, 2011 02:21 PM
Interesting! I find it reassuring to know that other people have been through something similar with this transit. I know when the guy I would later come to love started first noticing me was in late 2006, and to place the proper month transiting Pluto was conjunct his Moon 3 degrees and his Venus by 2. Around this time period, my NN was exactly on my Vertex. I definitely feel like we're twin flames, but as you said, who knows if he'd agree lol --- Plus in synastry, his Moon and Venus fall exactly on my IC + our Vertex's are conjunct each others ascendant IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted January 28, 2011 03:51 PM
I'm much more interested in figuring out how to tell, astrologically, when I will meet someone important who MUTUALLY loves, wants, and wants to be with me in real life, daily life, this life, than a 'twin flame' or 'soul mate'...and when a real-life relationship will start up.Otherwise it seems so insular--like the intense transit could just show that I feel something intense, not a likelihood of an actual relationship. And at this point, I feel like, who cares? I'm always feeling intense things. I'm interested in learning more astrology that goes beyond emotions, into action and practice. I'm pretty tired of the whole 'soul mate'/'twin flame' idea. Ready to actually get involved with somebody. IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted January 28, 2011 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
(not to say we are soul mates, but I feel like we are, not that he agrees..lol)
Sometimes men need to grow up faster. I attribute that to women becoming lesbians. J/k (eh sorta)
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Lioness
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posted January 28, 2011 04:28 PM
@JFK...
Yeah I have been in T.Pluto hell.. Its all over me.... I have have a T-square with Transit Pluto.Natal Pluto and Venus.. Needless to say I have really been feeling the pluto.. @Lucia..
HERE here!!! Amen to that! Little could.. ROFL... lol...... SO true.. I swear Im not sure how much more of this I can take... IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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posted January 28, 2011 07:14 PM
Lucia, you are definitely the person on this forum who I rarely ever find myself disagreeing with. I completely feel you on that - if anything, I try and stray away from the term 'soul mate' (and found myself hesitating in adopting the even cheesier term 'twin flame'), so I guess I'm just looking for validation in this post through other peoples experiences. It is comforting in a pretty thin kind of way. I find that predictive astrology when it comes to even finding so much as a partner or object of affection (whether they reciprocate or not) is next to impossible with this kind of stuff. After the "event" happens and you're wondering when the heck you're going to find some real fulfillment in all this, a lot of people will just be like "oh, just wait and see!". I find it's really limiting and people will do or not do certain things in daily life just so they can have that "proper" run in. I'm kind of half responding to your comments in that recent post about sun sign stereotypes. I completely agree with you that astrology can be so limiting and if anything - stifling. Instead of living life and making genuine, flesh and blood connections, we're sitting on the internet wondering if what we're feeling is valid because there are no Sun/Venus connections in our synastry. It does seem a little hilarious at a certain point. Definitely manipulative in a certain way when you plug in someones chart without them knowing and get to glance into their psyche. It's almost invasive. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted January 28, 2011 09:32 PM
JFK, I wish real-life love could be easier! And always mutual. Then no one would feel the need to fish around in each other's charts, we'd all know.IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat
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posted January 28, 2011 10:06 PM
How is being with your twin cheesy? And why wouldn't you want to find your other-half if you could? I'm confused by a couple of the statements made...Kat ------------------
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JohnFKennedy
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posted January 28, 2011 10:16 PM
I meant the term being a little cheesy, as I already have a hard enough time trying to not be cynical about the term 'soul mates'I don't doubt the yearning people have to find their final partner if they can through astrology - but I've found it to be such a crapshoot personally and I don't feel people should put as much stock in various transits immediately producing certain outcomes as they're stereotypically given IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat
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posted January 28, 2011 10:48 PM
I understand John...I feel that if 2 individuals are spiritually ready to be reunited with their twin, it will happen...I am one who has 'found' her twin, but to be completely honest with you, even if I hadn't yet, I don't believe I would have even tried to 'seek' him out...I believe that when the time is right, and the two are ready, God will reunite them...it's alot of time to spend on something that is not a guarantee...Yes, I am blessed, but it was a very long 49 years, and a lot of painful lessons were endured before it happened... Kat ------------------
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racole12
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posted January 29, 2011 02:13 AM
When Pluto crossed my DSC I met mine... IP: Logged |
Dreamy_AriesGirl
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posted January 29, 2011 03:00 AM
"and when a real-life relationship will start up."Based on my experiences...when you will be ready for it. Just ask the Universe for some guidance. Astrologically speaking, look for significant progressions and the Solar Return chart (compared together with the natal). My partner had his progressed sun on his natal venus around the time we got together, and I have Moon conjunt my natal DC in SR. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 29, 2011 12:01 PM
When I met my biggest love up to now was pluto in trine to my venus. Pluto was in trine to his merk conj venus . (My second husband)My house 5 ruler is pluto
His house 7 ruler are venus and merk.. IP: Logged |
Taurus81
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posted January 29, 2011 06:45 PM
i think it's different in different charts.. pluto soon will be transiting my dc and pluto is in my libra 5th natally.. i never thought of it before but i met my kids' father when pluto was opposite my moonIP: Logged |
MamaScorpio
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posted January 30, 2011 04:30 PM
I'm glad this topic came up. I have a friend at work that has a Solar Return for 2011/2012 year that shows he will meet his significant other. I believe it will be a serious commitment due to he has Juno/Sun conjunction aspects, transiting Pluto conjunct his natal North Node, and some other things. You know what, let me look at his chart again. Then I will come back and write the aspects. It is very strong for his solar return. IP: Logged |
MamaScorpio
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posted January 30, 2011 05:10 PM
Ok Im back. Im glad I checked again. I was wrong about the North Node aspect. Here is his Solar Return aspects.SR 5th
Sun/Juno conjunct by a 4 minute orb!
Saturn trine natal Chiron 6 degree orb, which is also sextile his natal Uranus by a 4 degree orb.
Vertex conjunct natal Neptune (natal 10th) SR 6th
Pholus/Node conjunct by a 15 minute orb! Also that aspect is conjunct his natal 11th/12th house cusp
North Node square natal North Node SR 7th
Pluto conjunct natal ASC 2 degree orb Applying aspect. Also transiting Pluto trines his natal Pluto (8th) by a 2 degree orb. SR 4th
Moon conjunct natal Pluto by a 23 minute orb. SR 10th
Ceres and Chiron (9th/10th cusp)
Uranus (10th/11th) cusp squaring his natal Venus SR 9th
Vesta conjunct natal Pholus by a 7 minute orb! Which is squaring his Pluto and the SR Moon.
SR Neptune conjunct natal Chiron SR 11th
Jupiter trine natal Pluto and SR Moon. Also it's squaring his Part of Fortune (natal). I know the way I made this list is sloppy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it sound like he will meet his next significant other at work? The natal 10th seems activated in that sense. The 6th also. I really see him with someone at work. I am curious as to whether this will be a joyous union for him. He is a very nice and shy guy. I do not want to see him get hurt. His birth details are here. Born October 22nd, 1960. Birthtime 11:28 a.m. Birthplace: Los Angeles, California. If you want, since I made this all confusing, look up his birthchart for the solar return year 2011/2012. I also think he may have already met her but hasn't noticed her yet. His Solar Return right now even looks interesting. Everyone in here is better at astrology than me. That's why I'm asking for guidance so as not to misdirect my friend. Any insights will be gladly appreciated. IP: Logged |
Delilah
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posted January 30, 2011 06:11 PM
Lucia, I totally agree with you. I've read articles that have said that soulmates/twin flames aren't permanent fixtures in our lives. Then what is the bleeping point?! I know, I know. It's all about learning and growing.Sorry. I'm a little bitter and don't mean to hijack this thread. For the last few years my progressed Venus and natal Sun have been in conjunction. I moved to a place that I love, but haven't dated enough to even mention. I've met two guys (didn't date them), one got married a year and a half ago and the other, I'm sure, is dating the woman he's going to marry. I'm like the female version of good luck Chuck, minus the promiscuity. Anyway, my point is that common techniques don't work for everyone. But if you really want to find the Mrs then allow me to develop a crush on you and bam! She'll come waltzing through the door. IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat
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posted January 30, 2011 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Delilah:
Lucia, I totally agree with you. I've read articles that have said that soulmates/twin flames aren't permanent fixtures in our lives. Then what is the bleeping point?! I know, I know. It's all about learning and growing.Sorry. I'm a little bitter and don't mean to hijack this thread. For the last few years my progressed Venus and natal Sun have been in conjunction. I moved to a place that I love, but haven't dated enough to even mention. I've met two guys (didn't date them), one got married a year and a half ago and the other, I'm sure, is dating the woman he's going to marry. I'm like the female version of good luck Chuck, minus the promiscuity. Anyway, my point is that common techniques don't work for everyone. But if you really want to find the Mrs then allow me to develop a crush on you and bam! She'll come waltzing through the door.
There is a difference between soulmates and twinflames...and being a 'permanent' fixture in ones life would, I am sure, have to do with the individuals involved, and what they have going on in their lives at the time...just MPO ... Kat ------------------
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Delilah
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posted January 31, 2011 09:42 AM
Kat, it wasn't my intention to imply that twin flames and soulmates are the same. And, yes it is up to the individuals involved on whether their union is permanent. My point, clouded by frustration, is that you shouldn't invest so much time and energy in finding them. They can drift out of your life just as suddenly as they drifted in. Also, just because you're ready for the other, doesn't mean that they're ready for you.IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat
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posted January 31, 2011 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Delilah:
Kat, it wasn't my intention to imply that twin flames and soulmates are the same. And, yes it is up to the individuals involved on whether their union is permanent. My point, clouded by frustration, is that you shouldn't invest so much time and energy in finding them. They can drift out of your life just as suddenly as they drifted in. Also, just because you're ready for the other, doesn't mean that they're ready for you.
I absolutely agree Delilah...although I didn't study Astrology until after meeting him, just as neither of us had heard of Twinflames until after 'meeting', I never would have looked for him...After being alone for awhile, and resolving some issues within myself, I got on my knees and cried to God...Looking back, it came from somewhere deep inside...because I told God that I knew there had to be someone just like me out there somewhere...there was more, but that was it basically...we met a month or so later, by complete 'accident'...
It wasn't til nearly a year later that I stumbled upon the twinflame thing...and I knew then...and he did too shortly after..
I feel in my heart, and from experience, when God feels you are ready, and the time is right, it will happen... Kat ------------------
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Lucia23
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posted February 01, 2011 12:19 AM
I'm always really happy when I hear about people who are in actual relationships with each other who mutually feel they have such a close connection, whatever their ideologies and whatever labels they put on it. I don't personally find that degree of fatalism particularly resonant...I think the universe is less linear and more beautifully complicated than that...but the thing that bugs me isn't when people who feel close to each other use these terms or ideas to describe the special bond. That's sweet and great! It's all the (many, many) people on this site who are like, "I have 8 zillion asteroid conjunctions with Johnny Depp/ that married guy at church/ someone I knew when I was a little boy who I fantasize about since I don't like my wife very much/ the crush who told me he's not interested in me and he ignores my IMs because he's scared and running from our Deep Connection...." It's like, whatever. I don't really care what anyone labels some guy I love who I am not with. I've said elsewhere, on the soul level I believe we are ALL equally connected. All beings, not just humans. Every entity and creature in the universe is my soul mate and twin flame, I don't think souls can be split in two like hot dogs. It is in everyday lived experience that many people are looking for partners, or looking for validation about the partners they've picked, often for reasons like "I live in a small town and he's one of two vaguely attractive guys I see at work." It helps pretty that up to think that everything is part of a neat, linear master plan. You don't see a lot of posts around here of people wondering if they're soul mates with a dear platonic friend or their dead granny--most people desperately are wanting their Soul Mate OR Twin Flame to be someone they have the hots for sexually. Delilah! I hope you will find spectacular love if you want it, portentous progressions or no portentious progressions. I will never have pSun-nVenus or pVenus-nSun again in my life, so that better not mean I just won't love again. (I don't think it does, of course.) I was looking at my ex's chart...when we hooked up he had pMars conjunct his natal Venus, I had pVenus conjunct my natal Mars. I was just looking at his chart and feeling jealous because his pSun is going to be conjunct his natal Venus soon, I know he'll meet someone wonderful and love her for years and she's just so incredibly lucky. To go back to the original question. When I met the guy I have the relationship closest to the definition I'm familiar with of Twin Flame, he had transiting Pluto exactly opposite his natal Moon. I had progressed Venus conjunct my natal Sun, transiting Pluto trine my Saturn. (We were teens, he's a mess, but we've been very important to each other for years. And we have intense synastry, lots of sgnificant dynamics at a tight orb.) IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted February 01, 2011 12:34 AM
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