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Topic: What In A Chart Indicates Great Fame?
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 10963 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 31, 2011 10:06 AM
When I say fame, I mean the almost fated from relative obscurity to overnight stardom--from dirt poor and no connections nothing to almost immediate acclaim...someone like Elvis, for example. He went from a nobody to a superstar in one day, after he got a gig on a tv show. One appearance in front of the masses catapulted him to the top. It was almost like destiny.The second part to this query is, would you want fame? Me, I've gotten a small taste of the public spotlight from running Lindaland, and I definitely don't want any fame. It makes you a target for every crazy out there. I wouldn't mind a good measure of business success, though. Just not the fame part of it. ------------------ "Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all." Harriet Van Horne IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 1313 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 11:05 AM
I don't know what could indicate fame,aside from 10th H and sun/moon combo;but what I've noticed as frequent ingredient is 4th H Sun. Glory after death. I say to look to angles... 12th H,8th H.I would like fame. Not popularity. IP: Logged |
soulful122 Knowflake Posts: 522 From: ←↓↑→ Registered: Jan 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 11:49 AM
I remember reading a thread on Astro (LL) where someone brought up Moon in 10th house may indicate fame, but someone suggested a packed 11th house/ruler of your 11th, aspects it makes, and where it's placed natally is a better indication. And I have to say, I don't agree with Moon in 10th at all, it doesn't seem to be my case. ------------------ “If malice or envy were tangible and had a shape, it would be the shape of a boomerang.” — Charley Reese IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 02:05 PM
jupiter/pluto midpoint is the strongest indicator of great powerful success that i've read on.....anyone can be powerful great or successful but the jupiter/pluto midpoint supposedly is there route to it...mine is the ascendant IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 02:07 PM
Here ya go randfor elvis, I think it was his optimism but also luck. in terms of business, well i have jupiter in capricorn, if you need any help with business as in turning an idea into a pragmatic entity let me know on fb, i can help with that, how you helped clear a space for me.. Thank you sir Sincerely Steve. http://john-sandbach.blogspot.com/2010/11/planets-activating-jupiterpluto.html IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 1107 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 02:26 PM
Look to the 11th house. I've seen that venus in the 11th makes one very popular with people. Also venus conjunct sun seems to be a people magnet. As far as celebrities, I don't believe it's just luck or fate. I think they're chosen.IP: Logged |
Maka Knowflake Posts: 93 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 02:38 PM
I would like to know the chart of the guy with the "golden voice".That's like a prime example of from rags to riches over night. Though there is an asteriod call Talent that maybe interesting to look at, there's some threads around here about it. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 31, 2011 02:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp: jupiter/pluto midpoint is the strongest indicator of great powerful success that i've read on.....anyone can be powerful great or successful but the jupiter/pluto midpoint supposedly is there route to it...mine is the ascendant
I have Sun conjunct Jupiter/Pluto midpoint with 45 minute orb. I also have Sun parallel Jupiter/Uranus midpoint with 1 minute orb. Both Cosmobiologists and Uranian Astrologers use declinations including declination midpoints.
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 990 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 02:58 PM
My Saturn is conj my Jupiter/Pluto midpoint. LOL. I guess it's in the stars for me to NOT make it "big" lolIP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 31, 2011 03:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by racole12: My Saturn is conj my Jupiter/Pluto midpoint. LOL. I guess it's in the stars for me to NOT make it "big" lol
Yeah..you can with other stuff that's in your chart and if you believe in yourself and work hard ------------------ A different mind is NOT a deficient mind. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 31, 2011 04:59 PM
I checked Elvis Presley's Chart Moon in 2'01 Pisces conjunct Fomalhaut in 2'56 Pisces A Royal Star. Archangel Gabriel, the Watcher of the South. Congenital birth defects, magic, fame, occult, faith, "Star of Alchemy", addiction, undesirable associates
8th harmonic figuration of Moon, Sun, and the transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Sedna Moon semisquare Sun - 12 Moon semisquare Sedna - '38 Sun in 17'13 Capricorn square Sedna in 17'40 Aries - 26 - strong theme that can't be ignored emotional nature/feelings/instincts (Moon) are in minor friction with Ego/self expression/vitality (Sun) and environmental awareness/caretaking/evolutionary intensification(Sedna) for humanity/victimization are in friction with each other There is a corresponding midpoint picture of Moon in 2'01 Pisces conjunct the Sun/Sedna midpoint in 2'26 Pisces Therefore Moon in 2'01 Pisces conjunct both Fomalhaut in 2'01 Pisces Sun/Sedna midpoint in 2'26 Pisces It's possible that part of his Fomalhaut theme involved the ego/self expression/vitality in connection with environment awareness/caretaking for humanity and victimization as well as evolutionary intensification I checked for more transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate aspects in major aspect to Sun,Moon,Ascendant,Midheaven
Moon in 2'01 Pisces square transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Orcus in 1'25 Gemini - '36 - strong theme that can't be ignored emotional nature/feelings/instincts (Moon) in friction with oaths/promises/evolutionary intensification (Orcus) Moon in 2'01 Pisces trine transneptunian dwarf planet Makemake in 3'50 Cancer R - emotional nature/feelings/instincts (Moon) in harmony with creativity/fertility/evolutionary intensification (Makemake) - 1'48 Sun in 17'13 Capricorn trine transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Quaoar in 19'43 Virgo - 2'29 orb ego/self expression/vitality (Sun), thinking/communications (Mercury) in harmony with creativity/inspiration/evolutionary intensification (Quaoar) in Right Ascension, Sun trine Quaoar has a narrower orb Sun in 18'40 Capricorn trine Quaoar in 19'30 Virgo R - '49 orb - strong theme that can't be ignored Ascendant in 12'21 Sagittarius oppose Geocentric North Uranus Node in 12'05 Gemini - '16 orb - strong theme that can't be ignored oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 13'45 Gemini/Sagittarius - 1'23 orb persona/relating with others (Ascendant) involve present collective independence/unconventional/innovation (Uranus Nodes) In Right Ascension: Ascendant in 10'53 Sagittarius trine transneptunian dwarf planet Haumea in 11'05 Leo R - '11 orb - strong theme that can't be ignored person/relating with others (Ascendant) in harmony with creativity/fertility/evolutionary intensification (Haumea)
Midheaven in 26'50 Virgo square Geocentric South transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Orcus Nodes in 27'08 Sagittarius - '18 square Heliocentric transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Orcus Nodes in 27'36 Sagittarius/Gemini - '46 aim in life/career (Midheaven) involve collective oath/promises/evolutionary intensification (Orcus Nodes)
in Right Ascension: Midheaven in 27'05 Virgo trine transneptunian dwarf planet Orcus in 27'09 Taurus R - '03 orb - strong theme that can't be ignored He had 6 "Strong theme can't be ignored transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate aspects: Strong theme can't be ignored transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate aspects (Sun,Moon,Ascendant,Midheaven in conjunction,opposition,trine,square within 1 degree orb to a transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate) (Sun,Moon,Ascendant,Midheaven in conjunction,opposition,trine,square within 30 minute orb to a transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate) Therefore, he had an ultra evolutionary intensified nature Explanation of transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate objects as evolutionary intensified objects: (Pluto,Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion) Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism. As objects that orbit beyond Neptune, transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates can be energies so metaphysical that they can be hard to handle and can manifest as problems on the physical plane. They are highly metaphysical energies that involve insight,inspiration,and creativity that should be used not just for the individual's benefit but for the benefit of many others. These energies are about about going well beyond self and tapping into mass consciousness. There is a potential to really make a mark on the world and affect people on a grand scale. Their very distant location,their tendency to orbit off the ecliptic as well as some of them with highly elliptical orbits make them objects that are divergent from the planets. Therefore, people with strong transneptunian energies can be divergent from the norm. They can be quite the nonconformists.
I believe that people strong in transneptunian dwarf planet energy are people that are ahead of their time which reflects how transneptunians weren't discovered until 1990's except for Pluto in 1930. I think that Pluto's fellow big transneptunians are very complex objects,and so it make sense that they are not easy to understand exactly how they work. That fits perfectly with them being objects that orbit beyond Neptune and being discovered in the 21st Century. They are so recently discovered,and so they aren't understood well. Of course, they are complex and mysterious objects - far more so than Pluto. It would make sense for people strong in the 21st Century objects to be complex,mysterious,and not easy to understand. The transneptunians as extremely primitive remnants of the solar system could mean that people strong in transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate energy are also deeply connected to the past. It said that highly metaphysically oriented people are intuitive,perceptive,and deeply connected to both the past and future that would be in synchronicity with how transneptunian objects are very primitive solar system remnants discovered later than the planets. The transneptunians failed to form as planets. It's like how transneptunian people don't fit in easily with other people. Their belief in and practice of metaphysical,occult systems can be seen as too primitive by mainstream people that believe in knowledge of science. The transneptunians are so far away from the Sun, that they are shrouded in darkness. These transneptunians can be viewed as the shadow and deep unconscious of a person. Many Transneptunian people's beliefs in metaphysical,occult systems can be be viewed as being "dark" by people that hold conservative religious beliefs. Conjunctions,oppositions,squares to transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate objects,nodes can indicate very difficult life that can involve significant trauma but opportunity for significant spiritual growth. They have to avoid boundary issues. Semisquares,sesquiquadrates,and quincunxes to transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates could also indicate the possibility of significant trauma and the opportunity for significant spiritual growth. These objects were discovered long after Elvis was born and died, and so there would be no way of knowing that he had these aspects All these strong personal transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate aspects reflected a person that was ahead of his time
Sun square Sedna - '38 orb Sun trine Quaoar in Right Ascension - '49 orb Moon square Orcus - '36 orb Ascendant trine Haumea in Right Ascension - '11 orb Midheaven trine Orcus in Right Ascension - '03 orb Midheaven square Geocentric South Orcus Node - '18 orb He had the strong potential be a public future with Midheaven square Heliocentric Orcus Nodes - 46 orb and South Orcus Geocentric Node - '18 orb and Ascendant oppose Geocentric North Uranus Node - '16 and oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Uranus
Orcus and its heliocentric nodes and geocentric south node aspect his Midheaven, and so his aim in life/career had a very strong theme of oaths,promises,and evolutionary intensification. Orcus was named after the Etruscan God Lord of the Underworld, and so death could also be a theme.
4 of strong theme transneptunian dwarf planet aspects involve hard aspects which can indicate evolutionary intensified trauma. He even had Moon quincunx transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Ixion - '24 orb which indicate emotional nature,feelings,instincts in strain with karma,2nd chances,evolutionary intensification. There is also a theme of lust with Ixion. It was named after the Lapith King who was punished by being put on a spinning wheel in Tartarus (where people in the Underworld are punished) for his lust for Hera. Through his union with the fake Hera, Nephele, he became the father of Centaurus who mated with a mild mare which led to the centaurs being born. The centaurs were just as lusty,reckless, as their grandfather.
Both Orcus and Ixion are plutinos for they have 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune like Pluto does. It means that Pluto and the plutinos orbit twice around the Sun as Neptune orbits three times around the Sun. Ixion and Orcus' orbital periods are only 1 to 2 years apart from Pluto's orbital period. As a rule, astronomers name plutinos after underworld characters. His Moon conjunct Fomalhaut - '55 is a potential indicator for fame as well as addictions which he had Interestingly, it is associated with birth defects. He had a stillborn twin brother named Jesse born 35 minutes before him. I wonder if his dead twin brother profoundly affected him like it was a piece of himself that was always missing and could never be filled. It could be considered a trauma of evolutionary intensification. ------------------ A different mind is NOT a deficient mind. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 31, 2011 08:01 PM
I have 9 strong theme transneptunian dwarf planet aspects,and 7 of them are hard aspects which indicate evolutionary intensified trauma: Sun conjunct Ixion - '05 ego,self expression,vitality merge with karma,2nd chances,evolutionary intensification Sun conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node - '09 Sun oppose Geocentric North Eris Node - '10 Sun oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Eris Nodes - '10 ego,self expression,vitality merge/odds with collective diversity,equality,discord,evolutionary intensification Sun oppose Sedna in Right Ascension - '44 ego,self expression,vitality odds with environmental awareness,caretaking for humanity,victimization,evolutionary intensification Sun contraparallel Orcus in Declinations - '01 ego,self expression,vitality odds with oaths,promises,evolutionary intensification Moon square Varuna - '10 emotional nature,feelings,instincts friction with cosmic order,justice,judgment,evolutionary intensification Moon trine Quaoar - '50 emotional nature,feelings,instincts harmony with creativity,inspiration,evolutionary intensification Midheaven square Haumea - '03 aim in life,career friction with creativity,fertility,evolutionary intensification in addition to that: I have close personal-transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate minor hard aspects Sun quincunx Varuna - '04 in Right Ascension ego,self expression,vitality strain with cosmic order,judgment,justice Moon semisquare Eris - '08 in Right Ascension emotional nature,feelings,instincts minor friction with diversity,equality,discord I have already experienced evolutionary intensified trauma. I also have the following nodal aspects Midheaven conjunct Geocentric North Ixion - '44 Midheaven conjunct/oppose Heliocentric Ixion Nodes - '44 aim in life,career merge/odds with collective karma,2nd chances,evolutionary intensification Midheaven oppose Geocentric South Uranus Node - '50 aim in life,career odds with collective independence,unconventional,innovation Ascendant square Heliocentric Uranus Nodes - '25 persona,relating with others friction with collective independence,unconventional,innovation With my very strong personal connections to the Eris Nodes, Ixion Nodes,and Uranus Nodes, I have the strong potential to be a public figure
Fixed Stars: Moon in 3'11 Pisces conjunct Fomalhaut in 3'28 Pisces A Royal Star. Archangel Gabriel, the Watcher of the South. Congenital birth defects, magic, fame, occult, faith, "Star of Alchemy", addiction, undesirable associates Maybe congenital birth defects can involve neurodivergent conditions Occult and "Star of Alchemy" can be about Astrology. Alcoholism and Drug Addiction runs in my family, and so the potential for addiction is very strong. Faith could involve my spiritual beliefs including belief in God. Archangel Gabriel could be an angel that I can turn to for guidance. I turn to angels for guidance. Fame could be about my Neurodiversity Advocacy, Starting/Running Developmental Neurodiversity Association,and being part of the Neurodiversity Movement. The Occult and "Star of Alchemy" could also fit with the metaphysical side of Neurodivergence - Indigo/Crystal,Starseed,Lightworker,Earth Angel I would be fine with fame regardless what happens. Neurodiversity Movement is very controversial, and there is a lot of people that don't agree with it. There have been neurodiversity advocates that have received death threats. I doubt that I will be any different. My goal is for Developmental Neurodiversity Association to be a big part of the Neurodiversity Movement and an international organization. I am well aware that I could be viewed as a great threat to neurodiversity opponents. If I mixed metaphysical stuff with neurodiversity advocates, I will even be viewed as more controversial just like Tom Cruise who said his Dyslexia was cured by Scientology and he got greatly criticized by a lot of people and the International Dyslexia Association.
I believe that Neurodiversity Movement is a great cause and it is worth dying for. I purposely formed DNA facebook group when Sun oppose/conjunct Uranus Nodes (Geocentric,Heliocentric) because I want it to be strongly involved in collective independence,unconventional,innovation.
DNA's chart has a very strong Transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate. It was stronger than I thought. I didn't check Right Ascension when I came up with the chart. I made sure that Pluto was conjunct the Ascendant within 1 degree in DNA's chart because I want it to be a powerful influence. Actress Winona Ryder was born on October 29, 1971 like me. I was born in San Francisco at 3:20 AM. She was born in Winona,Minnesota at 11 AM.
Musician Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers died in a motorcycle accident on October 29, 1971. Therefore, I was born on a day that both a famous person was born and a famous person died ------------------ A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.
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roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 11:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by racole12: My Saturn is conj my Jupiter/Pluto midpoint. LOL. I guess it's in the stars for me to NOT make it "big" lol
not true, it means the more you overcome your own view of what limits are the better it is, the more you act as a teacher to yourself, etc.... IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 11:42 PM
Glaucus I have very strong sedna aspects I have sedna semi-square moon and trine sun 0 degree orb and I have it opposite pluto 3 degree orb my sun is in the 7th-koch/8th-placidius house in capricorn 7 degrees my moon is in pisces at 22 degrees in the tenth-koch/11th - placidius anything jumping out at you with that? with your knowledge of these asteroids i'd feel like a fool for not asking. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 11:44 PM
And Glaucus when I saw your picture on the blog I imediately liked you. Before I even knew who you were on this board...i'm talking about genuinly so....I Thought you had a very powerful smile as well.And a powerful presence... You have the intellectualism and precision to back it as well...in any field you've chosen. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 31, 2011 11:50 PM
Glaucus i jus tread"A different mind is not a dificient mind" very potent word usage.... very powerful man....I know what you mean about the trans planet snow, they are like otherwordly creativity.. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 01, 2011 12:07 AM
I read this for sedna in the 12th and it rings true somewhat...any input appreciated.."Sedna in the Twelfth House, Sedna in Aspect to Neptune–Remember Cassandra, the seeress of Trojan War fame? She was doomed to make extremely accurate predictions, but also doomed not be believed when she spoke them. Extremely psychic, you were raised in an environment that heightened your sensitivities but not given the support you needed to make sense of your perceptions. Your parents are either “head blind�? or openly scoff psychic abilities and consequently imparted the impression that you were off center. More likely they added to your anguish by keeping a unhealthy mental health environment as you were growing up, either fighting excessively, or allowing drugs and alcohol abuse in the home. Environments like this are damaging for most people, but devastating for the psychically attuned, having the effect of artificially ripping the abilities to levels that are difficult and painful to handle. Another curious effect of Sedna in the Twelfth is the inability of hospital personnel to make accurate diagnosis of your illnesses. Have a medical astrologer handy to diagnose troubling health issues so you can tell the medical personnel where to look. " IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 01, 2011 12:07 AM
I read this for sedna in the 12th and it rings true somewhat...any input appreciated.."Sedna in the Twelfth House, Sedna in Aspect to Neptune–Remember Cassandra, the seeress of Trojan War fame? She was doomed to make extremely accurate predictions, but also doomed not be believed when she spoke them. Extremely psychic, you were raised in an environment that heightened your sensitivities but not given the support you needed to make sense of your perceptions. Your parents are either “head blind�? or openly scoff psychic abilities and consequently imparted the impression that you were off center. More likely they added to your anguish by keeping a unhealthy mental health environment as you were growing up, either fighting excessively, or allowing drugs and alcohol abuse in the home. Environments like this are damaging for most people, but devastating for the psychically attuned, having the effect of artificially ripping the abilities to levels that are difficult and painful to handle. Another curious effect of Sedna in the Twelfth is the inability of hospital personnel to make accurate diagnosis of your illnesses. Have a medical astrologer handy to diagnose troubling health issues so you can tell the medical personnel where to look. " IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 12:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp: Glaucus I have very strong sedna aspects I have sedna semi-square moon and trine sun 0 degree orb and I have it opposite pluto 3 degree orb my sun is in the 7th-koch/8th-placidius house in capricorn 7 degrees my moon is in pisces at 22 degrees in the tenth-koch/11th - placidius anything jumping out at you with that? with your knowledge of these asteroids i'd feel like a fool for not asking.
I haven't really looked into the house placements of transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates
I have been wondering about my 8th house and 12th house are previously emptied until finding out that Haumea and Makemake are in my 12th and Eris and Sedna are in my 8th well..Chiron is in my 8th,but it's not a dwarf planet type, and Eris is conjunct it I feel that whatever powerful energy that I was feeling in my 8th house , It was Eris along with Sedna Haumea is in my 12th, but it's 2'10 conjunct my Ascendant, and so it's more like a 1st house placement You and I have some things in common
Moon in Pisces Sun-Sedna aspect - I have the opposition - '44 in right ascension Moon-Sedna aspect - I have the sextile - 1'05 in regular chart ('39 in right ascension) ------------------ A different mind is NOT a deficient mind. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 12:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp: I read this for sedna in the 12th and it rings true somewhat...any input appreciated.."Sedna in the Twelfth House, Sedna in Aspect to Neptune–Remember Cassandra, the seeress of Trojan War fame? She was doomed to make extremely accurate predictions, but also doomed not be believed when she spoke them. Extremely psychic, you were raised in an environment that heightened your sensitivities but not given the support you needed to make sense of your perceptions. Your parents are either “head blind�? or openly scoff psychic abilities and consequently imparted the impression that you were off center. More likely they added to your anguish by keeping a unhealthy mental health environment as you were growing up, either fighting excessively, or allowing drugs and alcohol abuse in the home. Environments like this are damaging for most people, but devastating for the psychically attuned, having the effect of artificially ripping the abilities to levels that are difficult and painful to handle. Another curious effect of Sedna in the Twelfth is the inability of hospital personnel to make accurate diagnosis of your illnesses. Have a medical astrologer handy to diagnose troubling health issues so you can tell the medical personnel where to look. "
where did you get those interpretations?
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 5018 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 01:04 AM
Jupiter hovering around MC, right place right timeOuter planets conj ASC/MC wud else....... Stelliums, especially those involving personal planets and outer planets, esp the Sun. Look at house rulers too, see what they're up to, where they're visiting There are others. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 01:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by Glaucus: where did you get those interpretations?
I looked it up. I found Sedna intepretations here: http://www.astroforum.ro/index.php?s=36c63c99cb5873db92ff043621371b23&showtopic=4306&pid=41934&st=0entry41934 Sedna in the eight house, Sedna in aspect to Pluto- This is a position Freudians would love to explore. Your parents failed to establish appropriate parent/child boundaries, treating the you as an extension of their needs. Either you were treated in some way as a meal ticket, or inappropriate sexual content/tensions colored your interactions with them. You have a vague sense that normal people don’t act like this, but like all young victims of abusive relationships think you did something wrong so that mommy or daddy didn’t love you in the right way. Having learned from the best, you can be very manipulative. Many of you, fearing that something is wrong with you, steer clear of serious relationships. ummm I can't really relate to this ------------------ A different mind is NOT a deficient mind. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 01:36 AM
Madonna and Belinda Carlisle were born a day apart, and they shared being bornwith Sun conjunct/oppose the collective Sedna Nodes (Geocentric,Heliocentric) Madonna's are applying Belinda's are separating ------------------ A different mind is NOT a deficient mind. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 01:56 AM
Marilyn Monroe:Geocentric North Uranus Node in 13'27 Gemini sextile Ascendant in 13'04 Leo Geocentric North Uranus Node in 13'48 Sagittarius trine Ascendant in 13'04 Leo Geocentric South Neptune Node in 12'40 Aquarius oppose Ascendant in 13'04 Leo she had 3 outer planetary nodes aspecting the Ascendant, but the Geocentric South Neptune is the big one for it's in opposition to her Ascendant. Of course, that means that it's conjunct her Descendant.
She has personal connections to collective Uranian and Neptune energies. She also had Mars in 20'43 Pisces sextile Geocentric South Pluto Node in 20'25 Capricorn
South Jupiter Node in 16'15 Capricorn oppose/conjunct Lunar Nodes in 16'53 Cancer/Capricorn in 12th/16th
Check out her transneptunians only the dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates
Orcus in 18'00 Taurus in 10th oppose Saturn in 21'26 Scorpio R in 4th square Moon in 19'05 Aquarius in 7th (T-square)
Orcus is named after the Etruscan God ruler of the Underworld. He is said to be associated with oaths,promises. It is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate plutino. It is astronomically similar to Pluto.
Quaoar in 7'09 Virgo in 2nd trine Midheaven in 6'00 Taurus square Mercury in 6'46 Gemini in 10th. Quaoar is named after the Native American Tongva creation deity who created through song and dance. It is said to be associated with inspiration,creativity. Haumea in 28'01 Cancer in 12th square Venus in 28'45 Aries in 9th trine Uranus in 28'59 Pisces in 8th Haumea is named after the Hawaiian Fertility Creation Goddess. associated with fertility,creative,female reproduction/cycles. Makemake in 23'39 Gemini in 11th conjunct Antivertex in 24'31 Gemini Makemake is named after the Rapanui Fertility Creation God. associated with fertility,creativity, and communications. Makemake and Haumea are dwarf planets, and so they share the same rank as Pluto. Having one of these objects in the 12th house is no joke like she had Haumea in 12th. I have the same placement myself.
She also has the following
Ixion in 20'38 Virgo in 2nd oppose Mars in 20'43 Pisces in 8th sextile Saturn in 21'26 Scorpio in 4th sesquiquadrate Midheaven Ixion is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino. That means that it's similar to Pluto astronomically. It's named after Lapith King who was punished by being tied down to a fiery wheel because of his sexual advances toward Hera. Ixion mated with a fake Hera made from a cloud by Zeus to test Ixion. From that union, was born the centaurs.
Ixion is associated with second chances, the karmic wheel, lust,and coveting Marilyn Monroe was very transneptunian type, and so highly evolutionary intensified. This was something that astrologers wouldn't have known before the 21st Century which is when all the transneptunians except for Pluto were discovered. there is more checking out her heliocentric nodes to her geocentric chart
she has the following: Heliocentric Mars Nodes in 18'59 Taurus/Virgo square Moon in 19'05 Taurus
so emotional nature strongly connected to collective Mars energy can be quite emotionally volatile which is already suggested by her Moon square Orcus which is very intense emotionally Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 13'37 Gemini/Sagittarius sextile/trine Ascendant in 13'04 Leo Heliocentric Neptune Nodes in 10'58 Leo/Aquarius sextile/trine Sun in 10'26 Gemini check out what went on with her Venus
Heliocentric Chiron Nodes in 28'35 Libra/Aries oppose/conjunct Venus in 28'45 Libra talk about major collective self worth,love,relationship pain!
I checked for any possible connections that she might have to the 21st Century transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate nodes
Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar, Varuna,and Ixion Moon in 19'05 Aquarius trine Geocentric North Makemake Node in 18'13 Gemini sextile Geocentric South Makemake Node in 18'37 Sagittarius trine/sextile Makemake Nodes in 18'26 Gemini/Sagittarius Sun in 10'26 Gemini conjunct Geocentric North Ixion Node in 10'06 Gemini oppose Geocentric South Ixion Node in 10'08 Sagittarius conjunct/oppose Heliocentric Ixion Nodes in 10'07 Gemini/Sagittarius Her Sun was no typical Gemini Sun not with her Sun being very strongly connect to Ixion energy. She was actually born during a very strong Sun-Earth-Ixion Node alignment. Her Earth was in 10'26 Sagittarius. Earth in heliocentric chart is always exactly opposite Sun in the geocentric.
Ixion is a lusty,sexual archetype That could play a big part in sexuality,charisma. She was very strongly connected to the collective Ixion energies that the Geocentric,Heliocentric Ixion Nodes are. ------------------ A different mind is NOT a deficient mind. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 02:06 AM
Princess Diana:She had Sun conjunct Orcus with 22 minutes of arc She had Mercury parallel Orcus with 21 minutes of arc too. Orcus is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate named after Pluto's Etruscan counterpart. Orcus is a plutino because it has 3:2 orbital resonance with Neptune. All plutinos are named after underworld characters. She had Moon trine Ixion with 35 minutes of arc. Ixion also conjunct/oppose her Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis with 1'24 orb.
Ixion is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate named after the Lapith king/father of the centaurs who was punished by Zeus for betraying Zeus' trust and showing lack of gratitude by coming onto Hera. Zeus made a fake Hera to test Ixion who had sexual intercourse with her. From that union, came Centaurus who mated with the wild mare and became father of the Centaurs. So Ixion was grandfather of the Centaurs. Zeus had Ixion bound to a flaming wheel in Tartarus, the part of the Underworld where people were punished. Ixion is a plutino because it has 3:2 orbital resonance with Neptune. That's why it was named after underworld character. She had Quaoar sextile/trine Ascendant/Descendant with 15 minutes of arc. Quaoar is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate named after the Native American Tongva tribe creation god. He was said to create things through dancing and singing.
She had Sun square Eris with 55 minutes of arc.
In Right Ascension: She had Eris oppose/conjunct her Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis with 2'34 orb and trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant axis with 1'21 orb Eris is a transneptunian dwarf planet,and so it has the same classification as Pluto. Its discovery led to redefining planetary status,new classifications,the demotion of Pluto,and promotion of Ceres. Pluto and Ceres became equals in Astronomy like how Pluto/Hades and Ceres/Demeter shared Proserpina/Persephone for equal amount of time. Eris has a Proserpina/Persephone-like orbit (half of its orbital period far away from Pluto and half of its orbital very near Pluto). Michael Brown thought Persephone or Proserpina would have been a very suitable name for it, but those names were already given to minor asteroids. He ended up naming the object after the Greek Goddess of Discord. He thought it was the perfect name because its discovery led to discord,debate,controversy about Pluto's planetary status.
Pluto wasn't the only big transneptunian object in her 8th house.
Her 8th house included Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planets, Makemake and Haumea. She had Haumea conjunct Mars with 1'24 orb and conjunct stationary North Lunar Node with 2'04 orb in 8th house.
Haumea is a transneptunian dwarf planet, and so it has the same classification as Pluto. It is named after the Hawaiian Fertility Creation Goddess who children broke off from her. The object, Haumea has moons and orbiting transneptunian objects that broke off from her. It also has 4 hour rotation,and so it is the fastest spinning object in our solar system. It looks like a spinning football that has been kicked. It was said to be subjected to a collision with another large transneptunian object that led to it. She had Makemake conjunct her Vertex with 1'03 orb and her Part of Fortune with 32 minutes of arc in 8th house.
Makemake is a transneptunian dwarf planet,and so it has the same classification as Pluto. It was named after the Easter Island's Rapanui Fertility Creation God.
Makemake and Haumea are the only dwarf planets that aren't named after Greek/Roman deities nor European deities for that matter.
She was also strongly connected to collective transneptunian energy with the following transneptunian nodal aspects
Geocentric South Makemake Node in 18'35 Sagittarius conjunct/oppose her Ascendant/Descendant in 18'24 Sagittarius/Gemini
Heliocentric Makemake Nodes in 19'01 Gemini/Sagittarius oppose her Ascendant/Descendant in 18'24 Sagittarius/Gemini Geocentric South Quaoar Node in 9'46 Aries square her Sun in 9'39 Cancer her Venus in 24'23 Taurus in 5th square Geocentric South Sedna Node in 23'49 Aquarius square Geocentric North Sedna Node in 23'14 Leo - 8 minutes past the 1 degree orb that I use. square Heliocentric Sedna Nodes in 23'41 Leo/Aquarius so her Venus was strongly connected to collective Sedna energy her love nature,value systems,relationships strongly connected to collective Sedna themes of higher consciousness, environmental awareness,caretaker for humanity, victimization,abuse,betrayal All of us know of her as the victim in her marriage with Prince Charles but also her compassion and environmental concerns too. She obviously had problems with self worth too. There were also problems with the father Sedna myth includes father issues. with strong transneptunian energy, she had major evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences, highly metaphysically oriented,and highly nonconformist as well as ahead of her time.
The dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates weren't discovered until the 2000's.
Therefore, the astrologers wouldn't have known about Princess Diana being strong in transneptunian energy. She had very strong connection to planetary nodes:
her Sun in 9'39 Cancer conjunct Orcus in 9'17 Cancer in 7th house square Eris in 10'33 Aries in 3rd house. The configuration was tied into collective energy for her Sun conjunct the Geocentric Jupiter Node in 9'59 Cancer,oppose the South Geocentric Jupiter Node in 10'10 Capricorn,conjunct/oppose Heliocentric Jupiter Nodes in 9'30 Cancer/Capricorn. In Helicoentric chart, Earth in 9'39 Capricorn. Princess Diana was born during a very strong Sun-Earth-Jupiter Node alignment that involve Orcus and Eris.
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