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Topic: Transit patterns...?
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 844 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 01, 2011 02:41 AM
Does anybody know or have a link that explains how a lession/situation will evolve with each passing of a transit planet when it crosses over a point multiple times? For example... when Transit crosses over a natal planet the first time the situation starts or you become aware. Then the transit planet turns retro and crosses that planet again (what's suppose to happen during this stage.) Then the transit planet goes direct and passes (sometimes for the final time) over the natal planet again (and something happens)... Just trying to figure out what I'm suppose to be learning/experience with each pass of said transit planet... Thanks! IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1176 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 03:46 AM
Lets see, second stage Rx The planet seems to let up some or so it seems, it gives you a little break to re-adjust. Then when it goes direct again, it test you one more time and depending on whether you resisted change, and you don't want to resist because the second time direct will be as difficult as the first. On the other hand if you have adapted or integrated the change the second time will just be a reminder.A lot of this depends on the planet Pluto seems to take forever and Conjunctions to the Ascendant affect the part of you that others see. Have you checked your Progressions? P. Moon will "time" an event so you can use that to double check Transits and Progressions work side by side The thing to remember about Progression are they have to be within a degree and watch the angles, they are very important. Good Luck Sweetie IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 844 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 01, 2011 03:25 PM
Thanks Linda!I'm a newbie... only been studying for a couple years. I noticed this pattern when Pluto was conj my DSC/Mars... and it was the same situation kept happening with the same guy. Now, it's Uranus' turn. It's square my DSC/Mars. It's with a different guy, different situation than with Pluto. But. I don't know what I'm suppose to be learning (maybe I'm too close to the situation) So, I'm trying to figure out what the lesson I was suppose to learn with Uranus. I know the one with Pluto was to "let go" but I didn't realize this until after the 3rd pass. But I guess it's better later than never. I want to pick up what I'm suppose to learn with Uranus so when it hits the 3rd time I will have learned my lesson. lol. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1938 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 03:32 PM
I feel like the "lesson" part shows up really well with the Saturn Return every 29 years or so. The first one is like an exam, a big chance to change your life and release your Saturn issues. People who fail the exam that first time around are often sort of stuck in a rut or holding pattern until their second Saturn Return in their fifties. I've seen friends in their fifties (I am still in my mid-thirties) make massive changes in life direction and find great happiness for the first time during that Saturn Return.Maybe that kind of thing happens on a smaller scale with these retro patterns? I have Saturn moving back and forth over my Pluto, and Pluto moving back and forth around my Ascendent, right now...I definitely feel like the universe wants me to completely transform at a deep level. IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 844 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 01, 2011 05:30 PM
Lucia~What is going on in your life with Saturn transiting over your ASC? Last year I had it squared my ASC/Mars and I had severe health issues... IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 181 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 05:50 PM
Lucia, do you think that happens gradually, or is it something that kind of blossoms? I'm talking about the Saturn return, I made a big career change, but frankly - I was just gasping for air, so now I'm sort of breathing, but not "happy".Van Gogh comes to mind, it was during his first Saturn return that he decided to give up becoming a pastor and being a painter. It's clear to me that that was his true calling, but I wouldn't consider his life a "happy" and fulfilled one... IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 844 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 01, 2011 06:15 PM
Maira~ During my saturn return 2008/2009. I was like you, just gasping for air. Everything just broke. I moved across the country for a job then I lost my job, many relationships and then the snowball effect happened- lack of money, lack of health insurance... and at the end of it my health took a turn for the worst. I have finally bottomed out (my return was in the 4th house- which is the lowest point in a natal chart) and I'm starting to rebuild. I don't know if my Saturn Return is a little more rough than most people b/c of was squaring all my planets in Saggie. So, I totally understand where you are at... I'm "breathing" but I'm not happy.
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Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1938 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 06:28 PM
Racole, it's Pluto on my ASC, not Saturn.Maira, the "test" Saturn gives you during your Saturn Return *feels* like it is bearing down on you and trying to show you how much life can feel awful and restricted---but what it's REALLY doing is demanding that you give up everything that is not the purest, most real lifepath for you. So, for example, let's say: X is 29, in a career in office administration that bores her, dating someone who kind of bores her. She has a stressful relationship with her mother and sisters, and talking to them erodes her confidence. Changes X will probably make during the Saturn Return, which will allow her to breath: She will change jobs, switching from a job she hates to a job that's okay; she will stop dating that guy and spend a bit of time single, which will help her know herself better. Changes Saturn WANTS X to make, so she'll pass the test: Even though she has NO backup plan, she quits office administration FOREVER. Even though she's too old, she works to become a famous dancer...or, even though she has no money or connections or foreign language expertise, she moves to rural Africa and starts an organization to teach the villagers to read...or, even though she didn't graduate high school, she gets her GED and over years of hard work, makes it to Princeton and becomes a famous scholar...OR, she runs off to Paris and becomes a famous artist. She not only stops dating that guy, she changes her entire type, falling in love with a thrilling adventurer. She NEVER listens to her mother and sisters again, just sends them a card for the holidays. Most people at 29-31 aren't ready yet to make the radical changes that will let them realize their dreams...so they have to wait for Round Two in their 50s. Saturn actually wants you to NEVER settle for the mediocre and NEVER compromise your truest self. The lesson is that life is not a dress rehearsal. When you're still making compromises: "I can't do that because I don't have the skills/I'm not beautiful or talented enough/I don't know anyone there/That would disappoint my family..." then Saturn keeps punishing you. He says, "Even if you try to settle for mediocrity, everything can STILL be taken away from you!!! See? So you might as well take all those risks, and make your life thrilling and enormous!!" If you keep trying to hold onto the diving board of your life instead of diving in, Saturn will make it harder and harder. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1938 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 06:43 PM
At the beginning of Buddha's Saturn Return, he gave up being a prince and all the riches of the palace, he abandoned his wife and children, and he went off to beg in the streets, then starve himself and almost drown. And that story had a happy ending. Saturn wants that kind of thing--for you to give up anything and everything you do out of a sense of obligation, or because that's how someone else thinks you should live. Saturn wants you to break all the false rules you've made for yourself about how the world works. IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 181 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 06:47 PM
Thank you so much racole and Lucia! My Saturn return was last summer, and here I am, a freshman in acting college, at the tender age of almost 30 It was an impulsive decision (I'm an Aries, that comes with the territory), and I feel as if I don't belong there. But I'm breathing... Thanks again!IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 181 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 06:50 PM
racole, my Saturn return was in the 12th, beat this IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1938 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2011 06:55 PM
Maira, that is exactly the kind of thing Saturn has in mind!!Now you're being pushed to abandon all of your stories about it ("Here I am, almost thirty and a freshman...") Saturn doesn't want any apologies or excuses or ifs ands or buts about following your dream. He wants you to not judge whether or not you are good enough or belong there, but to do it anyway, as purely as you can, and to keep getting purer and purer about it.
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