posted February 03, 2011 01:13 AM            

I checked not only the regular chart.
I checked Right Ascension (RA)
geocentric nodes,heliocentric

I was exploring potential pastlife and ancestral indicators and overall karmic themes involving the Middle East.

Before I begin, I want to point out that Middle Eastern ancestry is already confirmed.

I took the mtDNA test at ancestry.com.

DNA test said that I belong to belong to Maternal Ancient Ancestry haplogroup J, The European Travelers.

The reason that I took the test was to know about my maternal ancestral line.
My mom never knew her mother nor any relatives on that side of the family.
All we know is that my mother was of English,German,French,and Italian ancestry.
While looking for my maternal grandmother for my mother back in 1994, I obtained
her birth certificate in San Francisco. I found out the names of my great grandparents.
My great grandmother's name was Ruth Rosenthal. Somebody told me that the name
was Jewish,and some others told me that too. However, there was no mention of
my maternal grandmother being part Jewish. I read that Rosenthal is a German name.
I recently read that its means "rose valley" I took the test, suspecting that I have Middle Eastern ancestry, especially Jewish. Mesopotamian ancestry is also something
that I suspect on my maternal grandmother's maternal side.

I went to a site, and I asked about subclades. I was told that I have J1c
I joined mtDNA J yahoo group run by Jim Logan, and he confirmed that my subclade is J1c. One of the members there told me that I am almost certainly part Jewish because he is one of my HVR1 matches. He also matches me on HVR2 except for 2. He said that ancestry.com doesn't test 462 and 489.
He also told me that most of his matches have Jewish surnames. He told me that the name Rosenthal could be German or Jewish, but in my case it is Jewish especially since most matches are from Eastern Europe rather than Germany. He told me that I meet the HVR criteria for subclade J1c. He said that although Mtdna haplogroup J began in the Middle East, it is likely that J1c did not enter the Jewish population until Ashkenazi Jews migrated to Eastern Europe around 600 to 700 years ago. In other words, Jewish J1c lines probably developed when Jewish men married Slavic women who converted. J1c is not very prevalent in the Middle East. He said that our last common ancestor lived around this time, after Slavic women converted, since we do not have any non-Jewish Slavic matches.

October 29, 1971
San Francisco, California
3:20 AM

TIGRIS

Tigris in 15'54 Leo in 12th - Tigris River ,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
conjunct Makemake in 16'20 Leo in 12th - creativity,fertility
conjunct/oppose Antivertex/Vertex in 14'58 Leo/Aquarius - auxilliary persona,relationships
conjunct Ceres in 13'57 Leo in 12th - nurturing,mother
square Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd - thinking,communications

RA
Tigris in 18'31 Leo - Tigris River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
trine Eris in 19'32 Aries R - diversity,equality,discord
square Venus in 19'22 Scorpio - love,relationships,values

Heliocentric Tigris Nodes in 13'17 Aquarius - collective karma involving Tigris River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
oppose/conjunct Ceres in 13'57 Leo - nurturing,mother

EUPHRATES

Euphrates in 3'09 Scorpio in 2nd - Euphrates River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent,
conjunct Quaoar in 2'22 Scorpio in 2nd - creativity,inspiration
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd - ego,self expression,vitality
conjunct Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd - karma,2nd chances
trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts
quincunx Varuna in 3'01 Gemini R in 9th - cosmic order,judgment,justice

Geocentric North Euphrates Node in 15'16 Scorpio - present matters involving Euphrates River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
square Antivertex/Vertex in 14'58 Leo/Aquarius - auxilliary persona,relationships

Geocentric South Euphrates Node in 25'29 Taurus - past matters involving Euphrates River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
square Mars in 25'54 Aquarius - assertion,passion,physical drive

Heliocentric Euphrates Nodes in 17'51 Scorpio/Taurus - collective matters involving Euphrates River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
conjunct/oppose chart ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio - thinking,communications

SUMERIA

Sumeria in 13'48 Cancer in 11th - Sumer,Sumerian
square Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd - independence,unconventional,innovation
sextile/trine Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces - persona,relationships

RA
Sumeria in 15'49 Cancer - Sumer,Sumerian
trine Mercury in 15'32 Scorpio - thinking,communications

Geocentric South Sumeria Node in 4'55 Virgo - past collective matters involving Sumer,Sumerian
square Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R - discipline,authority
sextile Sun in 5'20 Scorpio - ego,self expression,vitality
sextile Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio - karma,2nd chances

Heliocentric Sumeria Nodes in 12'58 Aquarius - collective matters involving Sumer,Sumerian
oppose/conjunct Ceres in 13'57 Leo - nurturing,mother

BABYLON

Babylon in 8'14 Gemini R - Babylon,Babylonian
oppose Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 3rd - expansion,judgment,optimism
square East Point/West Point in 8'00 Virgo/Pisces - persona,relationships

RA
Babylon in 6'41 Gemini - Babylon,Babylonian
conjunct/oppose Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 9'40 Gemini/Sagittarius
trine Pluto in 7'10 Libra - intensity,transformation,regeneration
square Moon in 4'24 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts

Geocentric South Babylon Node in 8'53 Sagittarius - past matters involving Babylon
conjunct Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius - expansion,judgment

UR

RA
Ur in 2'21 Leo - Ur, the birthplace of Abraham, a city in Sumer
square Sun in 3'02 Scorpio - ego,self expression,vitality
square Sedna in 3'46 Taurus R - environment awareness,caretaker for humanity,victimization
sextile Saturn in 3'36 Gemini R - discipline,authority
sextile Varuna in 2'57 Gemini R - cosmic order,judgment,justice

Heliocentric Ur Nodes in 13'51 Aries/Libra - collective matters involving Ur, the birthplace of Abraham, city in Sumer
trine/sextile Ceres in 13'57 Leo - nurturing,mother

MESOPOTAMIA

Mesopotamia in 11'34 Sagittarius in 4th - Mesopotamia
oppose/conjunct Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - aim in life/roots
trine Eris in 12'15 Aries R in 8th - diversity,equality,discord

Geocentric North Mesopotamia Node in 16'42 Aries - present mattersinvolving Mesopotamia
trine Makemake in 16'20 Leo - creativity,fertility

Heliocentric Mesopotamia Nodes in 25'08 Aries - collective matters involving Mesopotamia
sextile/trine Mars in 25'54 Aquarius - assertion,passion,physical drive

ARABIA

Arabia in 6'00 Leo in 11th - Arabia,Arab
square Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd - karma,2nd chances
square Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd - ego,self expression,vitality
sextile Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in 9th

RA
Arabia in 10'22 Leo - Arabia,Arab
sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 9'40 Gemini/Sagittarius - aim in life,roots

Geocentric North Arabia Node in 17'14 Aquarius - present matters involving Arabia,Arab
oppose Makemake in 16'20 Leo - creativity,fertility

Geocentric South Arabia Node in 18'51 Virgo - past matters involving Arabia,Arab
sextile Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio - thinking,communications

ISRAEL

Israel in 1'21 Gemini R in 9th - Israel,Israelites
oppose Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd - dissolution,idealism,inspiratio
trine Pluto in 0'51 Libra in 1st - intensity,transformation,regeneration
square Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th - emotional nature,feelings,instincts

RA:
Israel in 28'52 Taurus - Israel,Israelites
square Mars in 29'01 Aquarius - assertion,passion,physical drive
square Makemake in 28'02 Leo - creativity,fertility

Heliocentric Israel Nodes in 3'39 Sagittarius/Gemini - collective matters involving Israel,Israelites
oppose/conjunct Varuna in 3'01 Gemini - cosmic order,justice,judgment
square Moon in 3'11 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts

AIGYPTIOS

Aigyptios in 5'57 Aquarius - Egyptian,Egypt
Sun in 5'20 Scorpio - ego,self expression,vitality
Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio - karma,2nd chances

RA
Aigyptios in 8'09 Aquarius - Egyptian,Egypt
trine Pluto in 7'10 Libra - intensity,transformation,regeneration
trine/sextile Midheaven in 9'40 Gemini/Sagittarius - aim in life,roots

Geocentric North Aigyptios Node in 1'52 Virgo - present matters involving Egyptian,Egypt
square Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius - dissolution,idealism,inspiration

Geocentric South Aigyptios Node in 11'31 Aquarius - past matters involving Egyptian,Egypt
conjunct/oppose Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius - karmic emotional connections
trine/sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - aim in life,roots

Heliocentric Aigyptios Nodes in 21'39 Leo/Aquarius - collective matters involving Egyptian,Egypt
square Venus in 21'47 Scorpio - love,relationships,values

GIZA

Giza in 23'08 Libra - Giza, Pyramids
trine Mars in 25'54 Aquarius - assertion,passion,physical drive

Geocentric North Giza Node in 21'43 Leo - present matters involving Giza, Pyramids
square Venus in 21'47 Scorpio - love,relationships,values

SPHINX

Sphinx in 12'11 Cancer - Sphinx,riddles,problem solving
square Eris in 12'15 Aries R - diversity,equality,controversy
sextile/trine Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces

RA
Giza in 13'07 Cancer - Giza, Pyramids
trine Mercury in 15'32 Scorpio - thoughts,communications

Geocentric North Sphinx Node in 1'10 Sagittarius - present matters involving Sphinx,riddles,problem solving
conjunct Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius - dissolution,idealism,inspiration
sextile Pluto in 0'51 Libra - intensity,transformation,regeneration

Geocentric South Sphinx Node in 2'33 Cancer - past matters involving Sphinx,riddles,problem solving
trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts

Heliocentric Sphinx Nodes in 14'15 Sagittarius/Gemini - collective matters involving Sphinx,riddles,problem solving
trine Antivertex/Vertex in 14'58 Leo/Aquarius - auxilliary persona,relationships
trine/sextile Ceres in 13'57 Leo - nurturing,mother
square Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces - persona,relationships

GEOMETRIA

Geometria in 3'03 Libra - Geometry
conjunct Pluto in 0'51 Libra - intensity,transformation,regeneration
trine Varuna in 3'01 Gemini R - cosmic order,judgment,justice
sextile Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius - dissolution,idealism,inspiration
quincunx Moon in 3'11 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts
quincunx Sedna in 2'06 Taurus R - environmental awareness,caretaking for humanity,victimization

KARMA

Karma in 3'18 Libra - Karma
conjunct Pluto in 0'51 Libra - intensity,transformation,regeneration
trine Varuna in 3'01 Gemini R - cosmic order,judgment,justice
sextile Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius - dissolution,idealism,inspiration
quincunx Moon in 3'11 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts
quincunx Sedna in 2'06 Taurus R - environmental awareness,caretaking for humanity,victimization

RA:
Karma in 2'17 Libra - Karma
semisextile Sun in 3'02 Scorpio - ego,self expression,vitality

Geocentric North Karma Node in 15'01 Aquarius - present matters involving karma
oppose/conjunct Antivertex/Vertex in 14'58 Aquarius/Leo - auxilliary persona,relationships

Heliocentric Karma Nodes in 8'58 Pisces/Virgo - collective matters involving karma
oppose East Point/West Point in 8'00 Virgo/Pisces - auxilliary persona,relationships

CHALDAEA

Geocentric South Chaldaea Node in 8'18 Pisces - past matters involving Chaldea, Chaldeans
oppose/conjunct East/West Point in 8'00 Virgo/Pisces - auxiliary persona,relationships

In addition, I checked following asteroids:

DRAKONIA

Drakonia in 13'19 Cancer - Draconian,Reptilian
sextile/trine Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces

DRAKE

Drake in 10'09 Aquarius - Draconian,Reptilian
conjunct/oppose Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo
trine/sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius

Heliocentric Drake Nodes in 3'57 Sagittarius/Gemini - collective matters involving Stargazing,Astronomy,Astrology
square Moon in 3'11 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts
square Varuna in 3'01 Gemini - cosmic order,judgment,justice

STARGAZER

Stargazer in 12'40 Scorpio - Stargazing,Astronomy,Astrology
sextile/trine Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces

Geocentric North Stargazer Node in 21'14 Aquarius - present matters involving stargazing,Astronomy,Astrology
square Venus in 21'47 Scorpio - love,relationships,values

Heliocentric Stargazer Nodes in 13'43 Pisces/Virgo - collective matters involving Stargazing,Astronomy,Astrology
oppose/conjunct Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces

ASTRONOMIA

Astronomia in 11'01 Libra - Astronomy
trine/sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini - aim in life,roots
trine/sextile Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo - karmic emotional connections

Geocentric North Astronomia Node in 8'35 Cancer - present matters involving Astronomy
sextile/trine Ascendant/Descendant in 8'00 Virgo/Pisces - auxilliary persona,relationships

Geocentric South Astronomia Node in 13'16 Sagittarius - past matters involving Astronomy
square Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces - persona,relationships

ASTROWIZARD

Astrowizard in 3'13 Gemini R - Astronomy,Astrology
conjunct Varuna in 3'01 Gemini R - cosmic order,judgment,justice
oppose Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius - dissolution,idealism,inspiration
trine Pluto in 0'51 Libra - intensity,transformation,regeneration
square Moon in 3'11 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts
quincunx Quaoar in 2'22 Scorpio - creativity,inspiration

Geocentric North Astrowizard in 10'27 Libra - Astronomy,Astrology
trine/sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - aim in life,roots
trine/sextile Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo - karmic emotional connections

ATLANTIS

Atlantis in 12'18 Sagittarius - Atlantis,Atlanteans,Advanced Technology
oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - aim in life,roots
trine Eris in 12'15 Aries R - diversity,equality,controversy
sextile/trine Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo - karmic emotional connections

Geocentric North Atlantis in 5'18 Sagittarius - Atlantis,Atlanteans,Advanced Technology
oppose Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R - discipline, authority

DNA

DNA in 11'10 Sagittarius - DNA,genes,genetic engineering
oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - aim in life,roots
trine/sextile Eris in 12'15 Aries R - diversity,equality,controversy

Geocentric South DNA Node in 0'51 Leo - past matters involving DNA,genes,genetic engineering
sextile Pluto in 0'51 Libra - intensity,transformation,regeneration

INTERKOSMOS

Geocentric South Interkosmos Node in 9'07 Leo - cosmos,universe,space,aliens
trine Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius - expansion,judgment,optimism

Heliocentric Interkosmos Nodes in 13'14 Capricorn/Cancer - collective matters involving cosmos,universe,space,aliens
trine Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo Pisces - persona,relationships

Aspects personal planets,angles,and Ceres:

Sun in 5'20 Scorpio - ego,self expression,vitality
square Aigyptios in 5'57 Aquarius - Egyptian,Egypt
square Arabia in 6'00 Leo - Arabia,Arab
sextile Geocentric South Sumeria Node in 4'55 Virgo - past collective matters involving Sumer,Sumerian

Moon in 3'11 Pisces - emotional nature,feelings,instincts
trine Euphrates - 3'09 Cancer - Euphrates River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
trine Geocentric South Sphinx Node in 2'33 Cancer - past matters involving Sphinx,riddles,problem solving
square Astrowizard in 3'13 Gemini R - Astronomy,Astrology
square Heliocentric Israel Nodes in 3'39 Sagittarius/Gemini - collective matters involving Israel,Israelites
square Heliocentric Drake Nodes in 3'57 Sagittarius/Gemini - collective matters involving Drakonians,Reptilians
square Israel in 1'29 Gemini R - Israel,Israelites
quincunx Karma in 3'18 Libra - Karma
quincunx Geometria in 3'03 Libra - Geometry

Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces - persona,relationships
oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Stargazer Nodes in 13'43 Pisces/Virgo - collective matters involving Stargazing,Astronomy,Astrology
trine/sextile Heliocentric Interkosmos Nodes in 13'14 Capricorn/Cancer - collective matters involving cosmos,universe,space,aliens
square Geocentric South Astronomia Node in 13'16 Sagittarius - past matters involving Astronomy,Astrology
square Heliocentric Sphinx Nodes in 14'15 Sagittarius/Gemini - collective matters involving Sphinx,riddles,problem solving
square Atlantis in 12'18 Sagittarius - Atlantis,Atlanteans,Advanced Technology
square Mesopotamia in 11'34 Sagittarius - Mesopotamia
square DNA in 11'10 Sagittarius - DNA,genes,genetic engineering
sextile/trine Drakonia in 13'19 Cancer - Drakonian,Reptilian
sextile/trine Sumeria in 13'48 Cancer - Sumer,Sumerians
sextile/trine Stargazer in 12'40 Scorpio - Stargazing,Astronomy,Astrology

Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - aim in life,roots
oppose/conjunct DNA in 11'10 Sagittarius - DNA,genes,genetic engineering
oppose/conjunct Mesopotamia in 11'34 Sagittarius - Mesopotamia
oppose/conjunct Atlantis in 12'18 Sagittarius - Atlantis,Atlanteans,Advanced Technology
trine/sextile Geocentric South Aigyptios Node in 11'31 Aquarius - past matters involving Egyptian,Egypt
trine/sextile Astronomia in 11'01 Libra - Astronomy
trine/sextile Geocentric North Astrowizard in 10'27 Libra - Astronomy,Astrology
trine Drake in 10'09 Aquarius - Draconian,Reptilian

East Point/West Point in 8'00 Virgo/Pisces - auxilliary persona,relationships
oppose/conjunct Geocentric South Chaldaea Node in 8'18 Pisces - past matters involving Chaldea, Chaldeans
oppose Heliocentric Karma Nodes in 8'58 Pisces/Virgo - collective matters involving karma
square Babylon in 8'14 Gemini R - Babylon,Babylonians
square Geocentric South Babylon in 8'53 Sagittarius - past involving Babylon,Babylonians
sextile Geocentric North Astronomia Node in 8'35 Cancer - present matters involving Astronomy

Antivertex/Vertex in 14'58 Leo/Aquarius - auxilliary persona,relationships
conjunct/oppose Tigris in 15'54 Leo in 12th - Tigris River ,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
trine Heliocentric Sphinx Nodes in 14'15 Sagittarius/Gemini - collective matters involving Sphinx,riddles,problem solving
square Geocentric North Euphrates Node in 15'16 Scorpio - present matters involving Euphrates River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent

Chart Ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio - thinking,communications
conjunct/oppose Heliocentric Euphrates Nodes in 17'51 Scorpio/Taurus - collective matters involving Euphrates River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
sextile Geocentric South Arabia Node in 18'51 Virgo - past matters involving Arabia,Arab

Venus in 21'47 Scorpio - love,relationships,values
square Geocentric North Giza Node in 21'43 Leo - present matters involving Giza,Pyramids
square Heliocentric Aigyptios Nodes in 21'39 Leo/Aquarius - collective matters involving Egyptian,Egypt
square Geocentric North Stargazer Node in 21'14 Aquarius - present matters involving stargazing,Astronomy,Astrology

Mars in 25'54 Aquarius - passion,assertion,physical drive
Giza in 23'08 Libra - Giza, Pyramids
square Geocentric South Euphrates Node in 25'29 Taurus - past matters involving Euphrates River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
sextile/trine Heliocentric Mesopotamia Nodes in 25'08 Aries - collective matters involving Mesopotamia

Ceres in 13'57 Leo - nurturing,mother
oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Tigris Nodes in 13'17 Aquarius - collective karma involving Tigris River,Mesopotamia,Fertile Crescent
oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Sumeria Nodes in 12'58 Aquarius - collective matters involving Sumer,Sumerian
trine/sextile Heliocentric Ur Nodes in 13'51 Aries/Libra - collective matters involving Ur, the birthplace of Abraham, city in Sumer
trine/sextile Heliocentric Sphinx Nodes in 14'15 Sagittarius/Gemini - collective matters involving Sphinx,riddles,problem solving

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 03, 2011 12:43 PM            

Give it a try and see what you find.
Lets compare.
Maybe we have connections through the Middle East.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.