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paikchris
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posted February 08, 2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paikchris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello!

I'm pretty new to astrology. Been reading up on it just under a month. Attempting to analyze me and my G/f's synastry chart. Would appreciate the help!

We met 6 months ago. Fell in love the first week.

Highlights:
Me: Sun-Libra, Venus-Scorpio
Her: Sun-Taurus, Venus-Aries
(I guess opposites attract)

-Sun opposite Venus Double Whammy
-Her Sun and Mercury in my 7th house
-Her Venus in my 5th house
-My Mars conjunct her Moon and in her 7th house (very close to 8th house)
-My Sun in her 4th house
-My Moon, Mercury, Venus, AC, Pluto in her 5th house

-Our Vertex and AC's almost a Double Whammy Conjunction. (I'm not sure if it's close enough)
- My Eros conjunct her Moon in 3rd house.


I have been studying our charts a while and it seems like we have very good aspects. As well as some negative ones. I'm afraid i'm being biased and only picking out the good ones. Any thoughts?


Our Synastry

Her Natal

My Natal

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Betty Boop
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posted February 08, 2011 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like raining on people's parade - but my hunch is that you are too intense for her. Do you ever perceive her to be superficial in some way?

On first impressions - I don't particularly like the synastry, not for something long term... Although I can see why there would be a sexual attraction.

I was extremely close to my grandmother - Libra Sun with a huge stellium in Scorpio. You seem emotionally and psychologically complex. You are probably an intense person deep down, even if this is not always obvious to people until they get to know you. I think you need more emotion than this woman is able to provide in a relationship and also sexually.

I'm not sure if she has enough water to understand you/to feel you. Water placements need to be felt. You are not one to express yourself in so many words - but rather through eye contact and body language. Would you say that's true?

Do you have her correct time of birth?

In a nut shell... I'd say this looks good on first impressions.. But something is missing deep down... A lot of your needs are not being met.
It's possible that she feels the same way, but she is tougher than you are and this will not affect her as much as it affects you.
Actually a lot of things do not affect her as much as they affect you. She has a VERY thick skin underneath the feminine/cute/naive appearance.

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JohnFKennedy
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posted February 08, 2011 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny, I scrolled down to jot down my first impressions and Betty said everything I felt and more. Her nature is a initially very sweet and light hearted one. She's extremely loving and got quite a mind on her, and you really like that. But you do want more out of a relationship, especially with your water 12th house placements. Her Aquarius Moon and Taurus Mercury/Sun are just not adept in that emotional arena - which doesn't make that bad or good, you're both just innately different people. She is way more grounded and inner-aloof, although you bring out her intensity, maybe not in the best of ways? Her Pluto in your first and your 12th house Scorpio planets falling into her 5th gives me the impression you both dampen each others moods a lot. She embodying Taurus qualities and you being a super Scorpio is very alluring to both of you and has quite the gluing effect, though

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posted February 08, 2011 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello piakchris! Welcome to LL

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paikchris
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posted February 08, 2011 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paikchris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow you guys really hit the nail on the head.

90% of the time we are great and we feel this intense attraction. however 10% of the time, periodically i'll feel that she doesn't get me. And i'm usually left to deal with all my intense scorpioness by myself.

appreciate the input.

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heavenlyhera
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posted February 09, 2011 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm. This looks familiar. I think I've been in something with similar aspects.

I feel the chart has a lot of sexual aspects that are good! Because trust me, I've been there with previous blshdjkhhsjh ...I'm not going to finish that sentence. I am not going there with the sex aspects tonight. Because I won't stop.

I do feel when I look at your charts that though there will be great make up moments in a physical way. There is difficulty with the communication. I feel like she might wear this happy persona but it's hiding the way she feels and behaves. It seems like you must have a magnetic appearance to you! Just saying. But it does seem as though you can be a very intense person. But unable to convey how you truly feel and it stresses you out. You really value partnership though.

There are times when you both get each other and the fighting might not be so obvious in the beginning. But eventually there is a possibility you could become overwhelmed with disagreements. But the weird part is, your mars is conjunct her moon. Though I like this aspect in ways, it's overwhelming at times because I feel like the mars person is really persistent on his way and he doesn't even care to understand my emotions. I noticed in her chart she has Merc cnjct her sun. Does it ever feel like when you're talking to her that she isn't really listening but planning out the next thing she wants to say? She is good with words but you do you ever feel she isn't really letting you finish your sentences? And does this anger you in a way or make you feel uncared for? I can't help but wonder if this is more a chase for her. She seems very lively and competitive. You have a lot of mystery and intensity to you. She has a lot of planets that are all about the thrill of the chase but tend to get bored with stability. There is a chance she will burn with fire and passion for you in the beginning but if you overwhelm each other with heavy emotions/aggression/arguments, you will soon find out that it's just not worth it. The personal experience I've had in something similar to this is I really thought the guy and I could work so I started walking on eggshells and just going on along with things because he had a bad temper. His Mars (Taurus) squared his Mercury. In fact, most all of his stuff was squared with mercury and then his moon conjuncts his Merc. Pretty much what I got from him all the time was before I could even finish half of my sentence. He'd cut me off. It was pretty much, "I don't give a f*ck how you feel. You're wrong. I am right. And that's the end of the conversation."

Lets say I was patient with him for quite a few weeks of that relationship. I kept hiding how I felt and he was such a rude pig. That eventually one day I told him that I was sick of the he talked to me. And he was a hypocritical and disrespectful bully. He called me a "b*tch" and I remember turning around and looking him dead in the eyes and I said, "Who the f--- do you think you're talking too.." I could feel my blood boiling. I have really good control over my mars scorpio conjct pluto which took awhile and through astrology to recognize it needed control. But I felt red running through me. When I am hit to that stage I am pretty much ready to gut anything that posses a threat to my emotional nature. And the fact I went through so much for him to walk all on me. ****** me off. Big time. Thank god he had a crap load of Pisces. Because he picked it up and backed down. I told him he'll never ever talk to me like that again..Or I will come and find him while he is asleep. (LOL!!)

Our Mars were Opposite. Mine Scorpio, and his Taurus. But I am interested to see if you both work out the fact your Merc is Conjunct Moon in Scorpio and her Merc is conjct Sun in Taurus and which are opposite signs.

Just remember. Take it slow. And work on communication. Don't go all in. But I am sure you won't you have a lot in Scorpio. Which really makes you more "testy" with things before you jump.

And remember the candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long.

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paikchris
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posted February 09, 2011 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paikchris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol heavenlyhera i too feel like I walk on eggshells. For a different reason though. In the beginning of the relationship i would voice my opinions pretty freely and not hesitate when i felt unhappy. Everytime i did this she'd react very emotionally and start sobbing. When I am unhappy she takes it very personally and feels as if she failed as a partner. I try and explain that me telling her why i'm unhappy isn't a attack on her but just me trying to voice my needs. But she seems to not be able to take it any other way than personally. I hated hurting her so i ended up bottling most of my unhappiness inside and am currently trying to enjoy being in love.... which works.

I try to remind myself that the unhappiness i feel is coming from my scorpio elements.... which i feel is a curse. If i just focus on the positive i am a much better person.

And yes i do feel like she's not actually listening most of the time and thinking of her strategy in the argument LOL.

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JohnFKennedy
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posted February 09, 2011 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For a different reason though. In the beginning of the relationship i would voice my opinions pretty freely and not hesitate when i felt unhappy. Everytime i did this she'd react very emotionally and start sobbing. When I am unhappy she takes it very personally and feels as if she failed as a partner.

Wow, that's kind of intense. I feel a little protective of her because we have SO many things in common with our charts (I also have my Sun/Mercury in Taurus, as well as an Aquarius Moon and a Venus in Aries. Her Chiron and Mars in Leo gave me the initial impression she would have a lot more "moxie" than I do since mine are in Cancer and Pisces, respectively).

I'm thinking because she's still so young, you represent a lot of "sturdiness" in the outside world in her eyes. I can definitely see her idolizing you in a big way, almost as a father figure hybrid. I think it may be her Chiron nearing on your MC in combination with her Mercury on your DC. You go back and forth in between totally idealizing her and what she represents as a whole, but whenever you exude your individuality and aspirations in the world, it threatens her in a very deep way. She very much wants to be "one unit" with you, but your watery nature does elude her entirely practical one is the vibe I'm getting.

My favorite ex was a super Scorpio as well, so your guys' charts are very interesting! Overall I'm a very aloof and nonchalant person, but also full of humor and socalizing. But my Scorpio ex just always got under my skin and had the most incredible natural skill at wounding me even when he didn't mean to. I think you really mean a lot to her in a big way, it won't last forever. But you're here to change the scope of her psychological landscape for the better in her future.

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paikchris
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posted February 09, 2011 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paikchris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol I'd like to hear about your super Scorpio ex.

But yes, she and her mother routinely tell me how much i am like her father. I know she loves me and I can see how much i affect her. It's just very difficult to understand it. My scorpio side gives me this yearning for a deep connection.... and this is how i express my love. But her way of showing her love is very light and free, which i love. But very hard to understand how deeply i affect her when she hates talking about anything serious lol.

but yes I would like to hear about your super scorpio ex!

Oh and if you don't mind me asking. I have a hard time understanding what my purpose in the relationship is. She's such a independent and strong person that it feels that sometimes i'm just in her life for entertainment and emotional support when she needs it. Since you share so many aspects i was wondering if you could help me understand what it is she wants from me and this relationship.

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heavenlyhera
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posted February 09, 2011 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by paikchris:
Lol heavenlyhera i too feel like I walk on eggshells. For a different reason though. In the beginning of the relationship i would voice my opinions pretty freely and not hesitate when i felt unhappy. Everytime i did this she'd react very emotionally and start sobbing. When I am unhappy she takes it very personally and feels as if she failed as a partner. I try and explain that me telling her why i'm unhappy isn't a attack on her but just me trying to voice my needs. But she seems to not be able to take it any other way than personally. I hated hurting her so i ended up bottling most of my unhappiness inside and am currently trying to enjoy being in love.... which works.

I try to remind myself that the unhappiness i feel is coming from my scorpio elements.... which i feel is a curse. If i just focus on the positive i am a much better person.

And yes i do feel like she's not actually listening most of the time and thinking of her strategy in the argument LOL.


But you shouldn't bottle up how you feel. Relationships and love are about letting how you feel flow freely, while still being reassured in the others love for you. It's about maturity and patience. Relationships are never perfect, but it's nice when you know you have someone you can actually talk to without being made to feel like your feelings are irrelevant or sets them off. I can only share my personal experiences with similar aspects. Doesn't mean you'll be the same. I feel like everyone says Scorpios are really really intense and all this stuff. And they are to an extent. But if they realise exactly how deep their emotions run and they channel it out in right way. I think they can be one of the most realistic, intelligent, artistic, balanced and self controlled signs out there. and I have admiration for scorps who can pull that off. I have my mars cnjct pluto. It took me a lot to learn to control that and just let go of negative energy or vengeful behavior. I found that peace through music(guitar/piano) and art. My ex Scorpio Sun with Taurus Asc and Mars Scorp conjct pluto learned it through art and transcendental meditation (his dad was a teacher of TM) But everyone loved my ex. He was so balanced. Artistic and Controlled. He was never manipulative or angry. He just learned to let it go. I feel learning to channel any Scorpio energy by using it to bring life into something, helps a lot more then bringing death/vengeance to something.

But none of this was meant as an attack on your gf. Just more something you could both be able to work on. If it even occurs. Which it may not. Now the whole crying thing..I wonder if that could be linked to her Asc-Venus Sq. I once had an Aries tell me, "I could be sitting in a room full of a 100 people and still feel like crying if only 99 liked me. Christine, I know you love me but I don't care about one person loving me. I want everyone to."

I wonder if her Aries Venus sq Asc might have a similar feel. If she feels that her love is disapproving of her it freaks her out and she jumps to assumptions and acts out quickly through emotion outlets shown in the Asc. Maybe it makes it harder to control emotion without showing it?

Like I said again. None of this is an attack on her or you. And obviously as relationships progress you see different parts of the charts that clash and you find a way to work through it. I can honestly say though the one guy I loved and I'll always love..I had so many messed up aspects with him. He was an Aries. We had a lot similar to you and your gf with the squares. Just in different signs. It's nearly impossible to forget about him. He calls all the time and we live almost 5000+ miles away. I am in Florida, he is in England. We had a long term-long distance relationship. But when he does call, I don't answer though. There were things done that he can't take back. And I won't go back down that road even if he promised to be mine forever. I left that behind at Heathrow Airport in London. But for the most part we did have good mercury aspects. But I see some of the similar squares. And I can tell you. I never loved for someone like I did him. He was my everything. I honestly don't know if I'll ever love someone they way I loved him again. I always wondered if he really felt anything for me. When I was leaving Heathrow and we said our goodbyes. I told him we both had to move on and it was for the better. When I hugged him one last time he broke down crying. Like I've never seen a guy cry like this in my whole entire life. I could feel his body shaking too and he was covered in tears and he was very vocal too in the public airport. The most shocking part about the whole thing!!! He was an Aries Sun, Capricorn Moon, and Gemini Ascendant. His chart was pretty much earth and air. I saw the most detached person I knew cry and over me. It was just so shocking. Those squares sometimes are the relationships that make you feel the most and learn things about yourself.


Now the bad mercury thing was with another guy (Pisces). We didn't have those squares but a few trines/conjcts actually. But like you at first I felt I could tell him things too. But turns out I was wrong. He never listened or even cared. I honestly feel he played games with my mind, because he liked it when I'd chase him. I can't shake the feeling it has something to do with that Aqua moon. I have Gem moon. (U can tell easily spot this by how much I talk) But even though our moons trine. Something still felt very detached and unemotional. So of course I am an Aqua asc and I don't play those games. But you want me to mirror that moon baby? Oh I'll mirror it. I'll mirror it all night long. It's easy. When he noticed this behavior that resembled his moon, he'd panic and want to hear me talk about my emotions all the sudden. lol

Let's just say that little fish can dish it, but he can't take it.


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paikchris
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posted February 09, 2011 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paikchris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious to what your sun, moon and venus signs were.

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posted February 09, 2011 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by paikchris:
I'm curious to what your sun, moon and venus signs were.

Haha were they what you expected??

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mir
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posted February 09, 2011 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol heavenlyhera i too feel like I walk on eggshells. For a different reason though. In the beginning of the relationship i would voice my opinions pretty freely and not hesitate when i felt unhappy. Everytime i did this she'd react very emotionally and start sobbing. When I am unhappy she takes it very personally and feels as if she failed as a partner. I try and explain that me telling her why i'm unhappy isn't a attack on her but just me trying to voice my needs. But she seems to not be able to take it any other way than personally.

Wow.. this sounds very recognizable to me because I felt exactly the same with my ex (as being her). My Scorp-Moon was not exactly in a square to his Aqua-Mercury with an orb of 10* but the same vibe was definitely there - in his natal he had a tight Moon/Mercury square.
When I read your words *I* think... well, why shouldn't she be rightly confused/scared about your unhappiness if things aren't going very well between the two of you? Why shouldn't she take it righty personally if it also concerns her, if she's also part of it, if she feels there's almost no way out of the 'problems'.. because HOW can we change what we feel?
Ofcourse it isn't an attack on her but that doesn't take away her emotions because WHAT if she cannot fill your needs even if that's what she wants more than anything in the world? That's extremely sad but unfortunately it could be a very true reality.
Don't underestimate the instinct of the Moon in this one, she operates on a much deeper level .. she feels/knows things under the surface, things too slippery for words ..

I can't make more of it in another language than my own

Btw; my Chiron is about exactly on his MC also.

(also in reply to your Moon/Mercury thread)

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posted February 09, 2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I were you I'd hide your DOB's, I'm sorry but your GF is very young! That is quite an age gap...

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posted February 09, 2011 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1993 is like 18..... When I was 18, I met my ex Aqua who was 27. lol I didn't know he was 27 at the time though and I look older. But I liked him so once I knew, I didn't really care. Of course the big age gap killed it in the end because he wanted to get married and I didn't, but we are still good friends and he gives me advice.

As for the chart, I see some stable things especially with Saturn, but there seems to be some difficulty relating to each other. Plus she has so many planets in your 5th = more of a relationship than a partnership for long term. I can definitely see attractive from your part and affection from hers. I too, don't see much in the ways of "forever". But you can never tell, really. You should do a composite.

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posted February 09, 2011 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh and if you don't mind me asking. I have a hard time understanding what my purpose in the relationship is. She's such a independent and strong person that it feels that sometimes i'm just in her life for entertainment and emotional support when she needs it. Since you share so many aspects i was wondering if you could help me understand what it is she wants from me and this relationship.

She's light hearted about it because it's just in her nature. She's probably never going to be "serious" in relationships according to your definition, because you both see it two inherently different ways. I first started dating my Scorpio ex when I was 17, and he was a year older than me. He kept badgering me about commitment and things of that nature - and while I knew it was serious coming from him, because he's wasn't not (and still isn't) a person who's willing to commit unless they see something with very serious potential, I still couldn't adhere to that mindset. To me, the ultimate love consisted of always having fun, always being deliciously frivolous. I felt he would often "ruin the mood" by wanting to analyze the depths of what we shared together. It was a little selfish of me, but that was the age. It's funny, because even then I was a very critically thinking person and always analyzing everyones psychology around me, but once I was in a relationship with someone I adored.. it was the one time I felt like a little kid again.

Even though that was the surface appearance, I did love him more than I have ever loved anyone else. While I loved being independent, at the same time I was firm in wanting to be his only object of affection. Once I knew I "had" him, I then felt at ease and continued that frivolous vibe. She knows you adore her beyond all else. She adores the hell out of you, too. It wasn't until one day he got upset, and this sent shock waves through me and in retaliation I broke up with him. He didn't want to date me again, and this crushed me. I was so miserable afterwards - although, four years later, I am a much stronger person for it. I owe so much of how I behaved in that relationship with how I am in current ones. He really was a "mentor" to me, in that sense.

I knew I couldn't give him what he needed, though, which was a kindred spirit. I couldn't give that to him AT THE TIME, although now I could, as I'm no longer wholly innocent in regards to how I go about a mature, adult relationship with people. This is just who she is and probably always will be.. but I can tell she's awesome.

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posted February 10, 2011 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paikchris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You sound.... EXACTLY like her.
and He sounds.... EXACTLY like me.

holy crap.

You are awesome beyond belief. I hope you know how much that last post helped me gain insight into her mind and heart. I'm just starting to understand how she expresses her love. and honestly that's all i need sometimes. Just to know that she is affected by me just as much as I am by her.

She is awesome... and i can tell you are awesome as well.

I laughed when you said how he "ruined the mood"... which is exactly what i hear from her all the time. hahahaha. But yea... she's teaching me how to enjoy being in love rather than thinking about it all the time.

Thank you very much.

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